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SixFootMaster -> RE: Dominant women (10/6/2007 2:05:21 PM)
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ORIGINAL: NoreenSwan
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ORIGINAL: mistoferin
I generally hear reasons such as "I am very much in control of my life". My answer...ok, so am I and I'm submissive. "I have always been a leader". My answer, Ok....so have I and I'm submissive". "I am the breadwinner in my household and make a good income....I'm a business owner....manager, etc." My answer, ok, so am I and I'm submissive". "People just naturally follow my lead". My answer, Ok, people naturally follow my lead and I'm submissive. "I don't NEED a man, I'm perfectly capable of handling all aspects of my life without one". My answer, Ok, I don't NEED one either and I'm submissive".
"I" am a very strong, confident person with a very strong personality. I can take care of myself, manage my life, maintain my car, mow my own lawn, take out my own trash, split my own wood, hunt and process my own food. When things go wrong I figure out how to make them right, I don't need a savior to rush in and help me out. But....I don't see ANY of these things as being dominant or submissive....I just see these things as being a capable human being. However, these are the types of things that I have had dominant women state as evidence of their dominance. I'm sorry, I just don't see it that way. If I did I would likely have myself convinced that I, too, am a dominant woman.....but I'm not.
The characteristics they describe are the type of characteristics that would likely make them a greatly compatible friend for me. I admire strong people very much. But when they continue to push and wave their "dominance" at me like it's a weapon....that doesn't do anything for me but push me further away from them. It is almost like some view me as some sort of challenge....and yes, I've had some men do it too. Kind of like when a guy walks into a bar and picks a fight with the biggest guy in there....because he's got something to prove. Then of course, when the outcome is not what they set out after, the ultimate response is usually..."well, I don't think you're REALLY submissive".
Someone also asked if I see all men as dominant. No, absolutely not....not even a whole bunch of them who define themselves that way.
you discuss how you can do all the things a dominate girl do yet you are a submissive. well, good for you. dont know why you felt the need to start an entire thread on it just to tell us all that about yourself and your competive beef with girl dominates. but hey, i've seen wierder things. as I see it, sure girls who submit can take care of her life just as well as a girl who dominates. the only difference I see is one girl dominates to get what she wants and the other girl submits to get what she wants. both girls do the opposite (one submits, the other dominates) to get what they want. i think this poster has a point though in that your resentment is from the fact you dont dominate to get what you want, you instead submit to get what you want and you resent having to do that and knocking girl dominataes down to your level helps to justify your judgements on them. youre post seems like jeaous attack on dominates girls is all and i dont know why dominate girls get your feathers all in a rustle. furthermore, where are all these dominte women who are hunting you down? LOL. I would like to know as I would love that to happen to me. I go weak for the power of a dominate girls mental mind fucks, seductive lures and powerful and commanding ways. she snaps her fingers, i go weak. LOL. Like a previous poster said , you want to see a dominate woman, come see my mother. LOL. There you will see leader who lead the family and lead her career. btw, my father was a school principal. LOL
Dominance has absolutely nought to do with what you do or don't do in your life. Those are generally a function of necessity. Whether you are the primary breadwinner, leader of the family unit, business owner or employee - nothing to do with it. You either are dominant, or you are not. Yes, we usually see dominance expressing itself from within through the achievement of these roles, but they are manifestation only.
A man, dominant or not, is programmed to protect and provide by his very biological nature, and it is seldom you will find any man that is fulfilled without doing so. Again, nothing to do with dominance.
You cannot make yourself dominant, you cannot train yourself to be dominant, it is something that is as much a part of you as your own genetic code. The same for submissiveness - you either are, or you aren't.
Noreen, many girls are going to take exception with your post "you submit to get what you want" because it's the statement of someone who sees submission as a play, a game, or a voluntary act. It isn't. A submissive will submit whether she gets what she wants or not, because it is something she is compelled to do by her own nature. Submissiveness and for that matter dominance are not kinks, they are who we are.
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