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iammachine -> RE: Dominant women (10/6/2007 8:50:39 PM)
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** mmmmm poor listening would hear the inference that she is full of shit.... effective listeners will hear the view point is full of shit **
** big difference but for some the difference is beyond their grasp **
Wow, how is this at all called for or even in the realm of appropriate?
People that have any sense of logic, would at least understand that opinions are just that, and simply agree to disagree. I don't know how many times or how many different ways I need to say it. To be honest, at this point, I see very little benefit from trying to defend myself from someone that takes a leap from an open dialog to personal insults.
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Erin doesn't see women as Dominant. It is an assumption to read anything beyond it. Assumptions don't make effective communication. Instead of assuming that she is Infering something.. maybe a person should ask... but wait... if one actaully reads what is said instead of projecting their own issues into what is said... one can easily see that Erin is only communicating how she see Women that label themselves as Dominant for HER. And not how others should see them.
One last time, then you're going on my block list for being unduly caustic and irrational. From reading mistoferin's post, I could see that she meant no ill intent. I could also see things from another perspective, which is illustrated by the fact that many other people were uncertain as to what she really meant by her statements. There's no need to vilify anyone, when the root of the issue is likely a simple misunderstanding. It's effective communication to make sure that what you have said is understood the way you intended it to be.
Sure, some people are insecure and are going to wave their proverbial dick (or strap on!) around at the slightest provocation. I agree with you in not seeing anyone as dominant or submissive in relation to myself, I simply see people as people. The problem with the language of certain statements, is that the meaning is not 100% crystal clear as to whether it is in reference to a person's dominance in a particular situation or interaction, versus reference as to whether or not that person possesses dominant traits or characteristics.
Everyone is responsible for their own actions and their own feelings. You can't damn someone for misunderstanding, any more than you can damn someone for having opinions that don't validate your own. Sure, if someone is unclear about something, they should ask for further explaination, but it's not their fault that the message conveyed was vague.
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