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ORIGINAL: FullCircle

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ORIGINAL: YourhandMyAss
What is a conjuntive? Unless you mean conjuntivitus, in that case it's pink eye lol.

A word that joins two parts of a sentence together; and, because, or. etc.

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ORIGINAL: SixFootMaster 

This seems rather silly...  Don't capitalize something in text because you don't while speaking.  Then why did you capitalize the first letter of a sentence or the letter "i"?  Do you do that  when you speak?

Knight's Kyra

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ORIGINAL: SteelofUtah

In the Leather community a submissive never addresses a Master first as it is considered a insult and a socially unacceptable action. So when the lifestyle world went ONLINE people could not see the individual or see the social markers that denoted a Master or a Slave. The Upper and lower casing of Names, be it in first, second, or third person was an online way to maintain respect and show people who might not know the person if they were a dominant or a submissive.

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I am sorry if you took it upon yourself to thing that the lowercasing of a Name or "i" or "you" or the upper casing of a name or "He" or "She" is trying to make someone sound inferior or not

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but for god sakes why are we looking so closley at HOW someone says something and not WHAT they are saying?

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ORIGINAL: MiladyElaine

I wholeheartedly agree with capitalization of Dominant pronouns because it shows respect.  It puts the sub in his place automatically before he even voices his opinion.  he should always be lower case even at the beginning of a sentence.  I don't demand this but I DO look for it.

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ORIGINAL: SunnyTawse

Slave joy, your post was hard to read; you might be a sweet girl, very obedient, a joy and a delight to be with, but... your post was hard to read.

Sunny Tawse
Sadien Domina
Archon of Rings
http://AthenorLodge.com


"Yeah, I live in my own little world. But it's OK, they know me here."
-- Sweet N Evil, Friend of the tempeste, Master of His Private Universe

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ORIGINAL: GregariousGreta

I'm wondering about this, but how many people enjoy the use or nonuse of capitalization as a sign of D/s?


I'm really not that fond of it at all. I suppose it's my love of proper spelling, grammar and punctuation that makes me squick when I see it; or the fact that my brain hates reading things with screwy capitalization; or the fact that it reminds me too much of the chat speakers; or that I really don't want my sub to be a total groveling fool (not to mention I point out that particular pet peeve of mine on my profile, and not one message I received since has been properly capitalized).

Hm, what’s your opinion on it?

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ORIGINAL: YourhandMyAss

What is a conjuntive? Unless you mean conjuntivitus, in that case it's pink eye lol.

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ORIGINAL: FullCircle

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ORIGINAL: YourhandMyAss
I wouldn't dare speak for every one, about who was taught it or not, but not every one follows the principal. and it's their right not to

See you really shouldn't be starting a sentence with a conjunctive, no no.

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ORIGINAL: feastie

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ORIGINAL: YourhandMyAss

What is a conjuntive? Unless you mean conjuntivitus, in that case it's pink eye lol

I couldn't resist:

Conjunction Junction, what's your function?
Hooking up words and phrases and clauses.
Conjunction Junction, how's that function?
I got three favorite cars
That get most of my job done.
Conjunction Junction, what's their function?
I got "and", "but", and "or",
They'll get you pretty far.
[spoken] "And":
That's an additive, like "this and that".
"But":
That's sort of the opposite,
"Not this but that".
And then there's "or":
O-R, when you have a choice like
"This or that".
"And", "but", and "or",
Get you pretty far.
[sung] Conjunction Junction, what's your function?
Hooking up two boxcars and making 'em run right.
Milk and honey, bread and butter, peas and rice.
Hey that's nice!
Dirty but happy, digging and scratching,
Losing your shoe and a button or two.
He's poor but honest, sad but true,
Boo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo!
Conjunction Junction, what's your function?
Hooking up two cars to one
When you say something like this choice:
"Either now or later"
Or no choice:
"Neither now nor ever"
Hey that's clever!
Eat this or that, grow thin or fat,
Never mind, I wouldn't do that,
I'm fat enough now!
Conjunction Junction, what's your function?
Hooking up phrases and clauses that balance, like:
Out of the frying pan and into the fire.
He cut loose the sandbags,
But the balloon wouldn't go any higher.
Let's go up to the mountains,
Or down to the seas.
You should always say "thank you",
Or at least say "please".
Conjunction Junction, what's your function?
Hooking up words and phrases and clauses
In complex sentences like:
[spoken] In the mornings, when I'm usually wide awake, I love to take a walk through the gardens and down by the lake, where I often see a duck and a drake, and I wonder, as I walk by, just what they'd say if they could speak, although I know that's an absurd thought.
Conjunction Junction, what's your function?
Hooking up cars and making 'em function.
Conjunction Junction, how's that function?
I like tying up words and phrases and clauses.
Conjunction Junction, watch that function.
I'm going to get you there if you're very careful.
Conjunction Junction, what's your function?
I'm going to get you there if you're very careful.
Conjunction Junction, what's your function?
I'm going to get you there if you're very careful





Conjunction Junction

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Music & Lyrics:  
Bob Dorough

Performed by:  
Jack Sheldon

Animation:  
Phil Kimmelman and Associates

First Aired:  
1973

(in reply to feastie)

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ORIGINAL: ImpGrrl

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ORIGINAL: SteelofUtah

In the Leather community a submissive never addresses a Master first as it is considered a insult and a socially unacceptable action. So when the lifestyle world went ONLINE people could not see the individual or see the social markers that denoted a Master or a Slave. The Upper and lower casing of Names, be it in first, second, or third person was an online way to maintain respect and show people who might not know the person if they were a dominant or a submissive.

Um...no.  This is not the case all across all locales in the leather community.  I can believe it *might* be the case for you in *your* little corner of the leather community.  But not anywhere I've been.

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ORIGINAL: GregariousGreta

Hm, what’s your opinion on it?

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ORIGINAL: thornhappy

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ORIGINAL: GoldStallion

Well, I assume you mean the American Civil War, where you ungratefully attained independence? The French helped you with that? I didnt know that, but as ever I am not going to let ignorance bar me from having an opinion: typical Gallic obtuseness.

They dont want a fight, but then when they do, its on the wrong side! No wonder they dont capitalise "je"! They are, however, very clear about protecting their language and culture, so its easier to like them than not.

I think you're aiming for the Revolutionary War, not the Civil War.

And as for the French willingness to fight, check out their casualties for WWI.

thornhappy

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ORIGINAL: GregariousGreta

I suppose it's my love of proper spelling, grammar and punctuation that makes me squick when I see it; or the fact that my brain hates reading things with screwy capitalization;

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WWI (or should that be "i"?)

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ORIGINAL: apiercedkitty

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ORIGINAL: SixFootMaster 

This seems rather silly...  Don't capitalize something in text because you don't while speaking.  Then why did you capitalize the first letter of a sentence or the letter "i"?  Do you do that  when you speak?

Knight's Kyra

Yes, generally I do. Most people do if they stop and listen to themselves and follow the change in tone and cadence. Try it, listen to yourself say "Though it happens, I would never do that" - you should hear the emphasis placed on the start of the sentence and on the I.

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ORIGINAL: kyraofMists

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ORIGINAL: SixFootMaster

Yes, generally I do. Most people do if they stop and listen to themselves and follow the change in tone and cadence. Try it, listen to yourself say "Though it happens, I would never do that" - you should hear the emphasis placed on the start of the sentence and on the I.

Except that when people talk they do not only place emphasis on words that are capitalized.  Speakers make use of cadence, tone and pauses to persuade and sell their audience on their topic.  If they only added emphasis on words that are capitalized in text then it would be a rather monotone speech.  In the public speaking training provided at my job, the teacher had us practice placing emphasis on different words within the speech and discuss how that emphasis impacted the audience.  The fact that a letter was capitalized in text was not the defining criteria for placing emphasis on a word.

Since emphasis is also placed on words that are not capitalized, I don't see how that indicates that a word is capitalized in text.

Knight's Kyra

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ORIGINAL: SixFootMaster
I think you're missing a point. A capital is placed to indicate emphasis, to highlight a word of importance, that is - essentially - it's significance. When we speak, we likewise place accent and emphasis on important words. The more important the word, the more emphasis we place. I've also done public speaking training through the Toastmasters' organisation, and there is a degree of importance placed on reading and interpretation of what is written beyond the literal word. So, to clarify, we do not emphasise or accent every capital because not every capital is a mark of importance, but for words that are capitalised to emphasise their importance and significance, we do. Much in the way we use punctuation and how that too is manifested in our speech patterns.

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ORIGINAL: kyraofMists

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ORIGINAL: SixFootMaster
I think you're missing a point. A capital is placed to indicate emphasis, to highlight a word of importance, that is - essentially - it's significance. When we speak, we likewise place accent and emphasis on important words. The more important the word, the more emphasis we place. I've also done public speaking training through the Toastmasters' organisation, and there is a degree of importance placed on reading and interpretation of what is written beyond the literal word. So, to clarify, we do not emphasise or accent every capital because not every capital is a mark of importance, but for words that are capitalised to emphasise their importance and significance, we do. Much in the way we use punctuation and how that too is manifested in our speech patterns.

I don't think that I am missing a point; I disagreed with the idea that because we do not capitalize something in speech that we should not capitalize it in text.  You explained that capitalization in speech was placing emphasis on the word by using tone and cadence.  However, this last post reflects a different idea when you wrote, "we do not emphasise or accent every capital..."  There are words that are not emphasized in speech but are capitalized.  There are also words that are emphasized in speech but are not capitalized.  It does not seem that emphasis in speech will signify whether a word is capitalized or not.

The motivation you provided for capitalization, i.e. to show the importance of the word, actually supports a poster's capitalizing certain words.  If the purpose of capitalization is to reflect the importance of the word then it would be entirely appropriate for a writer to capitalize the words master or dominant if those words hold a particular importance to them or importance to the context of their writing.  I am sure that there are many people in this world and on this site who think those words are especially important and that the words I, submissive and slave are of significantly less importance.

Knight's Kyra