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ORIGINAL: Aneirin

But,what would happen if the US stopped helping it's allies and concerned itself purely with defence of it's own shores.You,like us are a warring nation, it seems we have to have a scrap now and again to be happy, but what would happen do you think if the US suddenly ignored the rest of the world.

I am interested in what would happen to US society,ignore the turmoil in other countries, if you like,their problem,let them sort it out.What would the US do?Think into the future,the possibilities given your current leadership and social structure.

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen
hang about Epgah - "disqualified for military service"? I'm sure I recall you saying you'd served, and discussed it briefly with Thompsonx?
And I cant imagine the descendants of the natives - several of whom are present on the boards here, appreciating the description of their ancestors as "savages", nor the accusation that their civilisation wasnt viable. Lets face it, in just about 400 years, we've pretty much trashed the place where they managed to live for far longer.
Might have to look up on crop rotation too; pretty sure it was well known pre-industrial revolution at least, a time when half the country was still occupied by "savages" making a decent living out of it.
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ORIGINAL: FangsNfeet
History would then repeat itself. Remember the Roman Empire? Down sizing your  political and military pull is the first step towards no longer being the super power. Review the past super powers and feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about these basic steps that have repeated itself time and time again:
1. Super Power pulls back from other countries.
2. Super Power focuses more on its land and people.
3. Groups and alliances within the Inner Super Power emerge.
4. Not everyone can get along.
5. Inner turmoil turns the Super Power into a weaker state
6. If not civil war, then atleast there is breakage within the Super Power.
7. The Super Power is no more. New roles of political policy and procedure have emerged. People still live, work, and what have you.
8. Other countries will soon begin to offer aide, deals, trade, and possibly altimatums.  
9. A new Super Power has been born.
Will it be Canada, Mexico, Austrailia, the UK, or something much more unexpected?

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ORIGINAL: EPGAH

Well, right now, any nation we don't offer to "help til it hurts" will go to China...China is a little less ethical in their dealings, and therefore MUCH more able to get benefits from anyone they help! If America truly quits interfering, our "place in the world" will go to China...Who knows, maybe it already has? But China isn't weighed down with a bunch of invaders demanding "rights" in their country...Perhaps because they proved they're willing to machinegun their OWN people down for protests, so invaders can predict/calculate a much WORSE fate for them if they cause trouble?

P.S. They also deal with people we don't--especially people we've embargoed to "punish" them without being "cultural aggressors"...so passive-aggressiveness really DOESN'T work, especially if someone else breaks the "picket line"!

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen
But such is the nature of the siuation. We could perhaps all live in peace with each other, but there's always someone prepared to take advantage.

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

nor France were anything like prepared for a confrontation

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ORIGINAL: EPGAH

If you feel so bad about the Indians and their descendants, make a "donation" at the nearest casino.

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250
Phil, to be *really fair* the "U.N." had SEVENTEEN resolutions.
One after another and nothing happened.
Mitt Romney who's running for President was here yesterday and he thinks the U.S. should get out of the "U.N."
I think he's right and judging by the crowds he's been attracting so do a lot of other people.

You mean have America make our own decisions, since "Peacekeeping" Missions almost always seem to end up involving American troops?
Great idea, but it might or might not happen that way!
Governments don't always do what the "people on the ground" want!

Like what peace keeping missions?

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ORIGINAL: EPGAH
Oh, and I was disqualified for military service, so I am innocent...And most people act like this all happened over 200 years ago!

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ORIGINAL: EPGAH

Dad's military, so I got military ID, but none of the other perks!

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ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave

LadyE: At the moment Turkey is poised to invade Northern Iraq. That would be your first "problem"
As a diversion you could spend some time "observing" those Turkish wrestlers that oil up their bodies, all glistening and muscley.
They might be Greek but I expect some live in Turkey lol.

Does that tempt you.
You could take Pahunk with you as a token of goodwill.
To Pahunk I mean not the Turks.

You know? Some people see problems - I see opportunities ('cause I swallowed a management techniques book once).

Let the Turks go into Kurdistan..... and we'll go into Turkey at the other end. Even with their huge army, I doubt they'll like a war on two fronts. Hey, we'll even get the Russians in on it - they hate the Turks apparently. NATO is irrelevant - it only says we come to the aid of members who are attacked - doesnt say we should do or not do anything if they attack someone else, and as Supreme Glorious Empress, my reading of the Treaty is of course, the correct one.

The goals of our invasion are to nab all those sunny beaches for ourselves, put Syria under a lot of pressure and be able to pass a resolution that says there was genocide in Armenia. If you like, since I know you, you can seize all the wrestlers you want at the same time.

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