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RE: kneeling in public - 10/22/2007 12:02:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: YesMistressIrish
He has a past history of being macho and a titty lover, so it was a perfect setting to knock a little sense into him. He blushed and I know he'll never forget how to do that one pose.


Ahhhhhhhhhhh yesssssss. A little humiliation to teach a lesson. That is hot.

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RE: kneeling in public - 10/22/2007 12:22:01 PM   
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This thread has been very interesting to Me because something came up recently that it reflects.
 
Just for the record, I am a Dominant who does require My boy to kneel when W/we greet and when W/we part.  It has been incorporated as a ritual for U/us.  This has been done for multiple reasons.  One is that it helps to reinforce the dynamic.  When I put the ritual in place, another factor in it was that I had a rib injury, and a hug for a greeting was not the best idea.  My boy also happens to be rather tall, so having him kneel to put his collar on was just plain more conveniant.  Also easier for kissing him on the forehead, which is part of the ritual as well.
 
Situation that it is, it would be exceptionally rare for a minor to observe this ritual.  (Ask Me, I'll tell you.)  The only people that are likely to see it are grown adults.  At least, they are of legal age. 
 
Recently, the ritual had to be altered due to a complaint that was received.  There wasn't a problem because of the kneeling, rather because of his collar (the noticable one) being put on and taken off.  It was considered sexual in nature.  Kneeling, however, is not an issue.  My boy still opens My car door, offers his hand to help Me out, and kneels to greet Me.

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RE: kneeling in public - 10/22/2007 8:01:27 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Celeste43
Going to your knees for a moment to pick something up you deliberately dropped is one thing. Getting down on your knees and forearms kissing his feet is something else. It may not be illegal but it isn't something I would want my minors to ask me about and therefore I wouldn't do it to someone else. YMMV

Luckily, moms waive the right to control the world around them and welcomingly embrace the discomfort of educating their young ones when they choose to raise them into independent adults.

So why should I stop what I enjoy doing so you won't have to do the job you claim to want?  I mean you DO want to help your child grow into an independent, tolerant, welcoming adult who doesn't get all stick up their ass because someone does something "out of the norm" when it doesn't harm or interfere with anyone else, right?

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RE: kneeling in public - 10/22/2007 8:07:46 PM   
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this would make me uncomfy .. i know one rule Master and i ahd when we met is we met as ourselves with no expectaions .. he is in england and came here to ohio to see me .. but we made it as comfy as ppossible and just didnt do antyhing to fast .. it went perfect .. we exchanged little gifts and just talked and ate some food i brought with me and let thigns happen slow not forced .. i think for us the no expectations thing help me relax more and not be scared that i was meeting my Master lol i know it sounds silly but it can be intimidating .. and i was just able to go at my pace not his .. he wanted to make sure he didnt do antyhing to scare me if he moved fast so all the steps and everything we did were because i initiated them . . and it worked great! :}


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RE: kneeling in public - 10/24/2007 5:18:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Aswad
You running for pope...?
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Damn, when did that position become an elected position? 
I would have thrown my miter in the ring the last time one died if I had known...

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RE: kneeling in public - 10/24/2007 5:30:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Sinimint

What I do have a problem with is meeting someone in a country "you wont name" for the first time!  


OH MY GOD...YOU AREN'T GOING TO...TO... OKLAHOMA?!?
OHHH GOD NOOOOOOOOOO...........!

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RE: kneeling in public - 10/25/2007 1:34:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Celeste43

Going to your knees for a moment to pick something up you deliberately dropped is one thing. Getting down on your knees and forearms kissing his feet is something else. It may not be illegal but it isn't something I would want my minors to ask me about and therefore I wouldn't do it to someone else. YMMV


The OP didn't actually say anything about kissing feet but even so, how sheltered do children need to be from the world they are living in, to be raised.....or rather how sheltered do the parents need to be?

To the OP, I flew to Norway to meet a chap I'd made friends with over the net 6yrs ago. I'd never met him before. We'd chatted for a year online and on the phone and became firm friends.He met me at the airport and I stayed at his home for four days. Sometimes you can be so worried about safety that you never take a chance. I had a wonderful few days being spoiled by a fantastic host and shown around Oslo and surrounding areas. He's a firm friend nowadays and the children and I have had holidays in Norway with him and he has brought his children to stay with us, too. It may not be a D/s *thing* but it's pretty much the same.

As for kneeling in public....I do it and I'll do it anywhere. As others have said; really, no-one gives a jot what other people are doing unless they are loud, rude and obtrusive. People tend to mind their own business. Sitting cross-legged, squatting, kneeling.... I see people around me doing these things all the time and I haven't once wondered what on earth they were doing.

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RE: kneeling in public - 10/26/2007 7:05:54 PM   
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I would be very impressed if someone knelt before me if we had not previously met. However I also would not be upset if she did not kneel. Part of getting to know someone you meet is to explore the rules and boundaries that need to exist in any successful relationship. The issue for me would be consistency.

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RE: kneeling in public - 10/26/2007 7:22:18 PM   
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Actually I came in here seeing that someone named "Mr. Spectacular" posted last. I wanted to see the swagger. ~craning her neck~ Mm. Not quite as flamboyant as I imagined.

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RE: kneeling in public - 10/27/2007 12:17:12 AM   
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Perhaps you did not notice the part about him paying for everything?
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ORIGINAL: Celeste43
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Third, you're spending your money to go someplace to kneel to someone you've never met?

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RE: kneeling in public - 10/27/2007 12:37:19 AM   
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I have done the kneel in public experience. It was in a very public setting (a mall). A wonderfully strict Domme I was seeing at the time was wearing combat boots, and one of the laces had come undone. She stopped, stood there, and told me to kneel and do it up.

I am a private person and it seemed to take forever to lace the boot back up, my face was bright red but my heart was pounding with excitement. I couldnt speak for several minutes afterward.

It was spontaneous and exactly like her to expect and demand such a thing. One of the most memorable moments of my life.



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RE: kneeling in public - 10/27/2007 8:18:50 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

quote:

ORIGINAL: Celeste43
Going to your knees for a moment to pick something up you deliberately dropped is one thing. Getting down on your knees and forearms kissing his feet is something else. It may not be illegal but it isn't something I would want my minors to ask me about and therefore I wouldn't do it to someone else. YMMV

Luckily, moms waive the right to control the world around them and welcomingly embrace the discomfort of educating their young ones when they choose to raise them into independent adults.

So why should I stop what I enjoy doing so you won't have to do the job you claim to want?  I mean you DO want to help your child grow into an independent, tolerant, welcoming adult who doesn't get all stick up their ass because someone does something "out of the norm" when it doesn't harm or interfere with anyone else, right?


Explaining why this nitwit is groveling on the ground licking his boots to an 18 year old is a hell of a lot different than doing it to one 14 years younger. Or can't you see the difference?

With the 18 year old I would probably stroll up and ask them to explain to my curious daughter exactly what purpose this display of poor public behavior held.

With a much younger one, I would be dealing with nightmares that the bad guy in the leather pants and pot belly was going to force her to lick shoes. Because they are that susceptible to upsetting images at that age which is why there are movie codes.

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RE: kneeling in public - 10/27/2007 8:51:47 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Celeste43
With the 18 year old I would probably stroll up and ask them to explain to my curious daughter exactly what purpose this display of poor public behavior held.
So then you admit that you would rather have someone else to teach your child how to be a tolerant and welcoming adult instead of doing so yourself.

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With a much younger one, I would be dealing with nightmares that the bad guy in the leather pants and pot belly was going to force her to lick shoes. Because they are that susceptible to upsetting images at that age which is why there are movie codes.
The only way she could have nightmares from that scene is if you teach her to have some inane fear of men. Any "normal" child will simply ask you what they were doing. The healthy response would be to explain to your child that some people show affection in different ways. And to not to stare because it's not polite.

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RE: kneeling in public - 10/27/2007 9:03:35 AM   
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Why do you keep insisting she'd be groveling and licking his boots, she never said grovel kiss or lick boots, She said she was to kneel for him untill he said get up. You're adding your own adlib to the original statement that was never said.

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ORIGINAL: Celeste43

Explaining why this nitwit is groveling on the ground licking his boots

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RE: kneeling in public - 10/27/2007 9:48:53 AM   
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Agreed, where did groveling and boot licking come in?

Even then, you just say it's a special type of shoe shine like you see at the airport and move on.

You really do want the rest of the world to do your job- movie codes ROFL. 

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RE: kneeling in public - 10/27/2007 10:17:34 AM   
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I see zero wrong with kneeling in public. I have, and probably will again do it for my Master.

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RE: kneeling in public - 10/27/2007 10:20:43 AM   
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Greetings
The, in My opinion, abdication of parental responsibility for the teaching of our own young to societal (in a general sense) responsibility has increased steadily over the past decades. I speak from experience as an educator and from observation. Is it wrong or just convenient? Who we become, who we are, are both a result from peer pressure or group education, parental or trusted others' input and our genetic makeup. I for one encourage more parental input, less emphasis on the group pressures. Finally, we are also thinking beings (well most of us are), to ask for explanations and to think upon what we see, read or experience might bring more understanding instead of less.


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RE: kneeling in public - 10/27/2007 4:32:51 PM   
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Since the OP didn't actually *ask* for any judgment on her relationship or the safety of traveling across an ocean to meet a potential mate, I'll just stick to the question she did ask:

I see nothing wrong with kneeling in public. Go to any mall, you'll see guys with pants around their ankles, boxer shorts showing, you'll see girls in hip huggers with thongs sticking out, girls wearing lingerie beneath shirts that don't actually cover it... I think a simple act like kneeling is unobtrusive and perfectly acceptable.

Now, if you're going to stop, raise your hands and say something like, "May I have your attention please! I, <insert slavely name here>, a collared slave, will now kneel to <insert domly name here>, my lord and master. All behold my great devotion here, in this public place! Donations are appreciated. Please place all tips in the hat."

Okay, well then I could see an issue...

But, yknow, that's just me.
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RE: kneeling in public - 10/27/2007 4:36:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: writergirl
Now, if you're going to stop, raise your hands and say something like, "May I have your attention please! I, <insert slavely name here>, a collared slave, will now kneel to <insert domly name here>, my lord and master. All behold my great devotion here, in this public place! Donations are appreciated. Please place all tips in the hat."

Okay, well then I could see an issue...


LMAO!!!

Now there's an idea - we can request donations?!?!? 


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RE: kneeling in public - 10/27/2007 4:37:46 PM   
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Only if the donor can designate where he slips the money into.

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