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meatcleaver -> RE: Reperations who deserves it more? (10/22/2007 1:05:34 AM)
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ORIGINAL: Sunao
By God why am I putting this up I know that I"m only going to make people mad but the freedom of speech allows me to do just that. O.K. reason I'm putting this up is because earlier today I was having an argument with my friend about who deserves reparations. I believe Jews deserve it because of the slavery they endured back in the days that the Egyptian empire was building its pyramids as well as the holocaust and a few inquisitions in the middle ages. My friend says blacks because of how whites kidnapped them from Africa and forced them into hard labor I personally see this as divine justice though. Please hear me out. White Americans came from the Europeans and some Europeans are probably of Jewish decent because of migration patterns. Alot of blacks are probably of Egyptian decent because 2000 years ago Egypt was an expanding empire and controlled a good portion of northern Africa. So this thread is either that A. I'm a closet racist B. I'm really getting tired of blacks asking for reparations but if reparation are ever enacted then give them to the activists that fought against our government for complete freedom. C. I want to hear how the public reacts to my crack pot theory as I wait for a video to load on Divx.
*Dumps Gasoline on hirself and waits for the mob with torches to set hir a flame.*
Well if we are going back to biblical times I think Jewish people need to make a few apologies first, then the Germans can apologize to them.
Observe what I command you this day. Behold, I am driving out from before you the Amorite and the Canaanite and the Hittite and the Perizzite and the Hivite and the Jebusite. Take heed to yourself, lest you make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land where you are going, lest it be a snare in your midst. But you shall destroy their altars, break their sacred pillars, and cut down their wooden images (For you shall worship no other god, for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God.)
Exodus, Chapter 34, verses 11-14
You will chase your enemies, and they shall fall by the sword before you. Five of you shall chase a hundred, and a hundred of you shall put ten thousand to flight; your enemies shall fall by the sword before you. For I will look on you favorably and make you fruitful, multiply you and confirm My covenant with you. You shall eat the old harvest, and clear out the old because of the new.
Leviticus, Chapter 26, verses 7-9
As for black Egyptians, it depends of what your definition of black is. There were Nubian pharoahs who were more or less dub-Saharan black but most pharoahs weren't but would probably be similar to middle east people now. There has been a Jewish line of pharoahs, a Persian line and then the Ptolemy line from Macedonia of which Cleopatra was one. So despite some ignorant PC American professor claiming Cleopatra was black for political purposes, she wasn't. Three of her grand parents were white Macedonians, the other grandparent isn't known. However, there isn't that much evidence apart from the bible that the Jewish people were slaves in Egypt. The workforce of the pyramids were Egyptoian and were a salaried labour, whole towns of these workers have been dug up by archeologists. I'm not saying the bible is wrong in everything but there is no evidence as yet that fits the biblical mythical tales.
As for reparations in general, that is going to be difficult. You can't pay the victims as they are dead. Though my guess is that ongoing discrimination is keeping the debate alive.
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