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RE: No Limits slavery - 11/2/2007 6:05:30 AM   
mydestiny2043


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Status: offline 		Hello mons,what statement exactly do you find questionable?As for your question I can't really answer that since I haven't crossed that bridge yet.But as I said in the begining I am not a slave nor do I profess to know how one thinks or feels.My motive for the thread was to gain better knowledge and understanding,and hopefully yes even learn a few things about myself along the way.Thank you for the post. 

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RE: No Limits slavery - 11/2/2007 7:45:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		Some people have a psychological preference to think themselves in a no limits relationship because it makes the slavery more real. I don't really have a preference one way or the other but the Master likes the no limits deal. I don't automatically do everything he tells me to, but I dont use the words 'limits' or 'safeword' when expressing reluctance. But Im thinking that if I started screaming safeword then the Master would stop what he was doing. Don't know. I guess I like not knowing. If I dont want to do something then I have long discussions over the issue and sometimes the task is modified or cancelled.

Obviously you cant be willing to do anything and everything for an owner just because. Even if you actually did have no limits of your own and were perfectly willng to let your owner disembowel you, everyone should have limits about what they are willing to do to another person. You cant go kidnap a child and kill him because your master told you to. But I think a lot of people want to feel 100% owned and they want to bask in the completeness of no limit slavery. So, there are mental tricks you can play on yourself to contstruct the illusion.

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RE: No Limits slavery - 11/2/2007 7:59:28 AM   
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Some people have a psychological preference to think themselves in a no limits relationship because it makes the slavery more real. I don't really have a preference one way or the other but the Master likes the no limits deal. I don't automatically do everything he tells me to, but I dont use the words 'limits' or 'safeword' when expressing reluctance. But Im thinking that if I started screaming safeword then the Master would stop what he was doing. Don't know. I guess I like not knowing. If I dont want to do something then I have long discussions over the issue and sometimes the task is modified or cancelled.

Obviously you cant be willing to do anything and everything for an owner just because. Even if you actually did have no limits of your own and were perfectly willng to let your owner disembowel you, everyone should have limits about what they are willing to do to another person. You cant go kidnap a child and kill him because your master told you to. But I think a lot of people want to feel 100% owned and they want to bask in the completeness of no limit slavery. So, there are mental tricks you can play on yourself to contstruct the illusion.


Precisely. And there are also tricks that the owner plays to foster that feeling. A lot of girls get really excited by the idea that they have a guy who will Just do what he feels like with them. They don;t want to set limits on the fun that this makes possible-knowing that he is probably smart enough-and cares enough not to do actual harm.

You can survive having your ass caned black and blue.

You can survive being forced to fill your diapers at the mall.

You can even survive being forced to BEG to have things like this done to you.

But what the regard of some women can't survive-is having a Top who will say-"ok, you get to tell me what to do."

Because that is not what submission means to them.

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RE: No Limits slavery - 11/2/2007 2:15:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: RRafe

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ORIGINAL: kitttty

Some people have a psychological preference to think themselves in a no limits relationship because it makes the slavery more real. I don't really have a preference one way or the other but the Master likes the no limits deal. I don't automatically do everything he tells me to, but I dont use the words 'limits' or 'safeword' when expressing reluctance. But Im thinking that if I started screaming safeword then the Master would stop what he was doing. Don't know. I guess I like not knowing. If I dont want to do something then I have long discussions over the issue and sometimes the task is modified or cancelled.

Obviously you cant be willing to do anything and everything for an owner just because. Even if you actually did have no limits of your own and were perfectly willng to let your owner disembowel you, everyone should have limits about what they are willing to do to another person. You cant go kidnap a child and kill him because your master told you to. But I think a lot of people want to feel 100% owned and they want to bask in the completeness of no limit slavery. So, there are mental tricks you can play on yourself to contstruct the illusion.


Precisely. And there are also tricks that the owner plays to foster that feeling. A lot of girls get really excited by the idea that they have a guy who will Just do what he feels like with them. They don;t want to set limits on the fun that this makes possible-knowing that he is probably smart enough-and cares enough not to do actual harm.

You can survive having your ass caned black and blue.

You can survive being forced to fill your diapers at the mall.

You can even survive being forced to BEG to have things like this done to you.

But what the regard of some women can't survive-is having a Top who will say-"ok, you get to tell me what to do."

Because that is not what submission means to them.

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RE: No Limits slavery - 11/2/2007 2:25:48 PM   
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I find a few things in these No limits discussions:

1) People seem to have a yen to prove others wrong.  To prove that they must have limits.  And I find thats more telling about the person that feels the need to prove themselves right and make their way the universal way for everyone.

2) The discussion of what limits are, how to arrive at limits, how to set and enforce limits is absolutely useless and conterproductive to being my owners slave.  There is no utility in trying to figure out how to place borders around him, rather I find the useful discussions to be about how to work through eliminating boundaries and moving past where you currently are.

3) They always go to several pages.  Which again, I think speaks volumes about some people.

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RE: No Limits slavery - 11/2/2007 2:41:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		goody goody goody... this is my favorite topic EVER. 

Imagine a universe with absolutely no limits.  Wait, you can't?  That's right, because having 'no limits' IS A LIMITATION.

It is, in a word... paradox.

You, as a person, are a system.  You exist within a system.  And subsystems exist within you.  If you expand your mind to include all of these systems as 'you'... if you go completely Zen... then your perspective flips.  Because you butt right up against the walls of the universe, and those walls are defined by paradox.

TPE is entirely possible to be no limits whatsoever.  Except for the ones that limit it and make it TPE.  That allow it to thrive and nurture a Master/slave relationship for years.  It is, at extreme risk of being redundant... a paradox.  I LOVE paradoxes.  They make me smile, from both pleasure and pain.

Just... read my tagline.


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RE: No Limits slavery - 11/2/2007 2:54:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		i agree with rover's response..there's no such as as trully NO LIMITS..while a M/s couple might be extreme, there's really no such thing as NO limits.many ppl on this thread mentioned disembowlment and such..in all the years that i've been in the lifestyle, i met only 2 slaves that really meant it when they said NO limits.they said if their respective master told them to jump off a cliff or break their bones, they would do it. i'm pretty sure they were bullshitting me but they seemed serious about it. i've never met anyone that i  consider to be truly a slave that really has NO limits.they're just very extreme.

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RE: No Limits slavery - 11/2/2007 3:02:09 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Wildfleurs

2) The discussion of what limits are, how to arrive at limits, how to set and enforce limits is absolutely useless and conterproductive to being my owners slave.  There is no utility in trying to figure out how to place borders around him, rather I find the useful discussions to be about how to work through eliminating boundaries and moving past where you currently are.



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RE: No Limits slavery - 11/2/2007 5:33:25 PM   
charlotte12


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Status: offline 		Oh my ownedgirlie you're too funny.

Beth, i believe that it was also voted that if a Dom tells his sub to kill him she must obey even if she claims to have limits so long as it's the last Thursday of the month. But if it's the first Tuesday then she must refuse even if she is a no limits slave.

hischarlotte (who has refused to kill her Master many a time  )


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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

at the last No Limits convention this slave distinctly remembers that it was voted on...here's the results:
 
on even years "No Limits Slavery" will be ridiculed and chainsaw references or ritual sacrifice and dismemberment of family members will be required every time it is brought up.
on odd years it will be defended and folks will encourage others not to ridicule the lifestyles, choices, and words folks use to describe their relationship or dynamic.(romantic or literal)
four weeks in the summer and two weeks in the winter, those without limits will be forced to endure endless accusations of mental deficiency, thereby negating their "right" to enter into a consensual relationship of any kind.
 
seriously, though...the only general consensus this slave has witnessed is that if you need to set limits and safewords with any specific person, relationship or activities within the relationship, in order to be fulfilled, or in a relationship, go for it!!!!!!  many will support you in your endeavor and good luck!


LOL beth this was priceless.  And I fully agree with the last paragraph.

~ signed,  The wacky wafer whose Master had to tell her that chainsaws really aren't hot sex toys...what can I say, I get hot whenever one revs up....


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RE: No Limits slavery - 11/2/2007 7:02:12 PM   
RRafe


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Status: offline 		This sort of topic would not get beat up so badly if folks just admitted why they liked it.

My take on a "no limits" girl was always about the same. She liked feeling powerless-it made her hot. And she enjoyed doing nice things for me-that made her feel happy.

But I was known to be realistic and practical enough-though I might choose to do some pretty wild and wierd things to her............she would always walk away from doing them under her own power.

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RE: No Limits slavery - 11/2/2007 10:35:29 PM   
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But I was known to be realistic and practical enough-though I might choose to do some pretty wild and wierd things to her............she would always walk away from doing them under her own power.


THATS good to know!

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RE: No Limits slavery - 11/2/2007 11:30:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: RRafe


But I was known to be realistic and practical enough-though I might choose to do some pretty wild and wierd things to her............she would always walk away from doing them under her own power.


THATS good to know!


Sometimes they wince, and hold their behinds a bit as they walk away-but they always have.

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RE: No Limits slavery - 11/2/2007 11:42:14 PM   
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This sort of topic would not get beat up so badly if folks just admitted why they liked it.

My take on a "no limits" girl was always about the same. She liked feeling powerless-it made her hot. And she enjoyed doing nice things for me-that made her feel happy.


Now if we could ever get around to pondering why so many desire to experience the space a pure powerlessness, why they work so hard to get there, we might make this a productive thread yet.

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RE: No Limits slavery - 11/3/2007 1:39:15 AM   
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Status: offline 		    Hello Wildflower,and thanks for your responce,but I don't agree not all people are the same,and since I am the person who started this thread I know personally what my motivations were,nor have I written anywhere that I'm out to prove anything to anyone.I'm not sure if you've read the entire thread or if you're generalizing based on threads you've read in the past..What I find interesting is that you're basically doing the same thing that upsets you about this thread." 1) People seem to have a yen to prove others wrong.  To prove that they must have limits.  And I find thats more telling about the person that feels the need to prove themselves right and make their way the universal way for everyone." 3) They always go to several pages.  Which again, I think speaks volumes about some people.
I don't know why  you use these boards,but I  do know why I do and what my motivations are,and that's to learn and hopefully grow.But please by all means if I have ever said anything close to what you say "people like me are trying to do by making posts such as mine"Show it to me as I will not only owe you an apology but will be happy in giving it to you.I wish you well in your journey.


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RE: No Limits slavery - 11/3/2007 1:55:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		And also imagine a universe where it's frowned upon to express curiosity and or knowledge.How else are we to learn and grow if you can't ask questions and get other peoples points of view?Let me be the first to proclaim I am not the know all or be all of anything or anyone and I can go one step further and state I never will be,not in this life time.Sometimes when a person asks a question or poses a view it's just that "their curiosity or thirst for knowledge"that truly is the ulterior motive if any for asking said questions.......Ofcourse I can only speak for myself,and these are just my opinions. 

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RE: No Limits slavery - 11/3/2007 2:07:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		Not as extreme as death and maiming, but how many subs/slaves would engage in the following examples (coded so as not to break the rules):

UM's
K9, etc.
Excrement consumption.
Incest.

I think there are few who seriously would, even those who profess to have no limits. I know some people think of these things, but doing them is another matter.


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RE: No Limits slavery - 11/3/2007 2:08:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		There is no LEGAL thing such as No limits Slavery; we all have limits as far as I am concerned my limits are basic NO animals, No Kids, No Scat, No Extreme Blood.   I expect for the Slave who wishes to be my Alpha Husband Slave to have the same limits.  The limits I listed are not negotiable or limits that WILL BE PUSHED; these are HARD FOREVER Limits.
 
There are limits that should be pushed and will be pushed but that is decided between the two or maybe more people in the dynamic.  There are many men and women who fantasize about NO LIMIT SLAVERY but that is just that a Fantasy.  A slave and or sub always has the option to LEAVE but we all hope they don't.  We too as dominants have the right to leave. It is all in a person's perception.

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RE: No Limits slavery - 11/3/2007 2:12:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		The 'why' is pretty easy, IMO.  Because it's our fear as humans that both drives us into the heights of ecstasy and prevents us from getting there.  Take away a general fear of failure, and replace it with a fear of displeasing your Master or Mistress... and you've suddenly got a channel of information you can tune into.  You're watching him/her for cues as to his pleasure or dissatisfaction, and yet you've still got the fear going that connects straight to your groin.  You're now no longer paying attention to your own body as something you control; you've relinquished your own, inadequate, control over to someone who can satisfy you far more than you can do for yourself.  As long as your Top keeps your fear focused on themselves... as long as their opinion matters more than your own... As long as they remain unpredictable, yet trustworthy... your emotional connection has the chance to build up and up, until your Top releases you into orgasm.

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RE: No Limits slavery - 11/3/2007 2:22:32 AM   
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And also imagine a universe where it's frowned upon to express curiosity and or knowledge.How else are we to learn and grow if you can't ask questions and get other peoples points of view?Let me be the first to proclaim I am not the know all or be all of anything or anyone and I can go one step further and state I never will be,not in this life time.Sometimes when a person asks a question or poses a view it's just that "their curiosity or thirst for knowledge"that truly is the ulterior motive if any for asking said questions.......Ofcourse I can only speak for myself,and these are just my opinions. 


Um, what?  Is that a criticism of my post, or just a general airing of your feelings with no particular intent?  Because I definitely didn't say don't be curious.  I just said that the world was bound by paradox, and that paradox related to the behavior of limits, and that therefore no-limit TPE was a direct line to a type of paradox.  By all means, question and explore that paradox to your heart's content.


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RE: No Limits slavery - 11/3/2007 2:46:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		greetings mydestiny,

if i am not mistaken, wildfleurs' post was not directed specifically at you. it is a common feature of threads on this topic that many people who believe this does not exist, or that we are crazy or delusional, tend to go to extreme lengths to try and "prove" we have limits or that there are perfectly good explanations for why we poor misguided souls think we are no limits. i don't believe you were attempting to do so in starting this thread, but if you read other recent threads on this topic, many posters who think this is crazy DO attempt to do so, and the thread usually becomes entirely about proving that we are nuts and/or making it up. again, unless i seriously misread, wildfleurs' post was not a criticism of you, just an observation of how some of the disbelievers/disagreers tend to post in these threads.

respectfully,
annabelle.

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