EPGAH
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ORIGINAL: mya75
To:Epgah
*sings proud to be an American*
"But what happens when America becomes the dumping ground for the undesirables of the third world?"
Answer: You can move to Haiti,by then it will be free and clear of all the evils and they will be over here....according to what you have been posting....My question to you is what have you done to possibly help resolve what is going on....have you volunteered your time teaching an Immigrant ot Refugee english? Have you spent time at a local clinic educating people on disease and "proper" ways of living? There are numerous ways all of us can help but as long as we sit back and just complain then I guess you can start packing your bags and buy your ticket to "Haiti" ahead of time...I am in no way implying that you dont do your part..... I am simply asking what have you done?
I have TRIED volunteering in English as a SECOND Language class...for 2 years...
It's quite draining, really! First day there, I was told they didn't NEED to learn English, because America would soon be under THEIR control, and "teachers will be the first ones to go" (I probably misinterpreted, but that sounded like a threat...either that, or I was unwittingly participating in a remake of "Dangerous Minds"?)
He got the lowest grade in the class, not because of the threat, but because he was the ONLY one who made NO EFFORT WHATSOEVER to improve his English, and thereby his lot in life! The rest fared little better, until toward the end of class, when they started approaching me one at a time, asking for private lessons, but each one asked--begged--me not to tell the others--or their parents! One child even claimed his family would beat him for learning English! (This is where I drew the conclusion that foreigns have some kind of cultural/religious aversion to learning, especially learning English! Wouldn't any sane parent be happy that their child was learning something? Oh, wait, it's the TAXPAYERS' money, they don't need to worry about RESULTS!)
The ones that got private lessons got B to B+ grades...ONE got an A, but didn't have time to do the extra-credit work, else he could've earned an A+!...MOST of the rest got Ds...And of course, Mr. "Dangerous Minds" got a big fat F! (He had the dubious privilege of retaking it under another teacher...wonder if that teacher gave him a better grade because he was scared of him?) Remember, these are grades, not bra-sizes, A+ is the BEST, D is BAD, but F is the WORST! And so, yes, the ones that WANT to learn, can be taught...
I stopped after 2 years of this...40 kids in a classroom (Average, some had MORE, only one had "only" 30-some), each class, an average of 10 kids needing one-on-one tutoring, either sleep, volunteer-work, or my job had to be cut out of my schedule...Given that I can still afford Internet, guess which one went!
As to counter-migration, there ARE expat communities in the invading countries, but you have to be careful about abductions by terrorists or "opportunists", who see Americans as nothing piles of gold...They have made depersonalized movies about kidnappings for fun, profit, and "political gain"...but in every case, the first question out of viewers' mouths is "What was an American doing there?"
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ORIGINAL: missturbation
Even immigrants who pay their own way may need help at first. Housing, health care etc. Would you begrudge them that?
Only if they couldn't pay for it themselves...that's part of paying your own way! An outsider should get even LESS help than an American gets! (Have you TRIED getting insurance to pay for some medical procedure, or even preventative checkup visits?) What is it with this sense of entitlement for the foreigns? That should be part of our "discriminatory" entrance exam; to make sure they don't become a burden of "The System"--which will end up being distributed among ALL the taxpayers, not just the ones who WANT to support incoming freeloaders!
Or, of course, hospitals and rental-houses could set up some kind of escrow account to be paid into by those who WANT to take care of the strays, but when the money runs out, they'd have to turn away the rest--and eject the ones who commit crimes. Come to think of it, that's precisely how "homeless shelters" in America work! 
Alternately, you could try sheltering a few yourself...You know, if you want to take in a stray or two, you'll have to take care of it yourself, don't expect the Universal Parent--I mean GOVERNMENT--to pay for it all the time!
< Message edited by EPGAH -- 11/2/2007 3:26:41 PM >
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