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ORIGINAL: MissOchistic

Right. We should all do anything helpful to others as long as it doesn't kill us. I mean, sure, the asshole maybe have been chasing me with a steel rod and threatening to kill my dog, but it wouldn't kill me to just make him the damn sandwich, would it?

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ORIGINAL: slavesunshine

You are supposed to be here to help, guide, and support.

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ORIGINAL: SteelofUtah

Susie,

I don't know if you are religious but people look for GOD everyday and don't know exactly what That is. In reality she is asking for something on her Profile and trying to define what that is for HER. She has a Master so she obviously has some idea of this lifestyle. To ignore the question she is asking to attack the Profile which was NOT asked about shows all you are interested in is picking apart the person instead of offering help.

No one said you didn't have a right to be here, what I said is you missed the POINT and PURPOSE of this forum by ignoring the question the girl asked.

As Always

Steel 

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ORIGINAL: susie

I did not miss the point of the forum. I offered help by saying that if she states on her profile she is looking for something specific, she should know what that thing is. You are right in saying she has a Master and it is to him that she should be directing that question if he is the one that is searching. I could tell her what a slave means to me and it could be vastly different to what he thinks it is.

Help comes in many formats not just the nice hand holding type that you seem to advocate.

As for religion I really fail to see what that has to do with this thread.

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ORIGINAL: slavesunshine

You are supposed to be here to help, guide, and support.

Slavesunshine, no one is here to help guide or support, this is a forum and people are here to interact however they wish. Some will help, some wont. It`s really that simple.

To the OP, my own view is that there isnt any difference between someone who says that they are fully submissive or someone who says they are a slave. There are many variations of what people think a submissive is or isnt and try as you might, you wont find an answer here. i was once chatting to a Mistress and her view of what a slave was, equalled my view of what a submissive was.

My own advice would be forget the labels. Talk to anyone you intend to get involved with, and make sure you understand each others views of what slave and submissive mean.

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ORIGINAL: slavesunshine

Susie,

No one is questioning why you are here. We all have a right to be on the boards. But, if you are going to be here....be helpful and be respectful of others.
She asked the question because she wanted to know. She posted on her profile because she was told to by her Master. Why is it so hard just to help someone by answering a question? If you can take the time to be so rude and so unhelpful.....you have time to help someone. If what you have to say isn't helping, then don't respond to questions asked of others. The reason we have these boards is to help people and support people, am I correct?

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ORIGINAL: slavesunshine

Susie,

No one is questioning why you are here. We all have a right to be on the boards. But, if you are going to be here....be helpful and be respectful of others.
She asked the question because she wanted to know. She posted on her profile because she was told to by her Master. Why is it so hard just to help someone by answering a question? If you can take the time to be so rude and so unhelpful.....you have time to help someone. If what you have to say isn't helping, then don't respond to questions asked of others. The reason we have these boards is to help people and support people, am I correct?

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ORIGINAL: julietsierra

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ORIGINAL: susie

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ORIGINAL: slavesunshine

Lyrical,

I too agree with StellofUtah. We were all once "new" to the lifestyle. I think some people tend to forget that. Please never stop asking questions and there are those of us who do want to help. Feel free to email me anytime that you want to.
This is supposed to be a place where you can feel free to ask questions even though they may have been asked a dozen times before. (not everyone knows that they have been asked in the past). Not everyone can spend 24 hours a day here on the boards finding out what is posted and waht is not.
Good luck on your journey and please email me if you would like I would love to talk with you.

sunshine

I think the point that both you and SteelofUtah missed is the fact that lyricaldreams has posted here asking what is the difference between a slave and a submissive whilst she has a profile saying that she and her partner have an opening for a slave. If she does not know what the difference is or is too new to the lifestyle to know, how can she be looking for a slave?

From the tone of the ad it still sounds like they are looking for a cheap domestic and not a lifestyle slave at all.

I read the OP and the rest of the responses and I guess the thing that hit me about the whole thread is that here's a girl who is relatively new. She's been told to post to her profile about look for someone and is doing her best to comply. Then, she comes here to look for answers to some of her concerns - not unlike others have done on these same boards. She doesn't want to defy her Master, but also needs to gain some perspective, so she asks those outside her relationship in order that she can develop and contemplate her own views of the differences between slave and submissive.

What she gets is jokes about the multitude of postings on this subject - as if her concerns are trivial to say the least. What she gets are comments about a profile that she wrote in compliance to someone else. What she gets are comments that put down everything about what she's doing. In short, what she gets is everything except what she really needed.

And now, her Master has told her not to post here again. So, our quips and our jabs and our attempts to be witty, as well as to take her to task instead of helping her, has closed off an avenue of learning for her. And yep, I know. I'm guilty of this as well, so this is definitely not a case of the pot calling the kettle black or anything like that.

Yes, she gets to make up her own mind regarding her continued relationship with her Master. Yes, she can ask him about what the differences are. But it seems that what she was asking for were outside and objective views so that she could come to some understanding about what was coming in his life, and so, in hers. I may be (and probably am) reading way too much into her post, but it seems like what she was asking for was a bit of something she could find comfort in as she prepares to explore this part of her life.

What's sad is that I think we failed her.

juliet

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I can understand for some of you who have been on here for months, years, whatever (judging by the number of posts you have made) that someone bringing up topics you have discussed before can get old.  However, if all topics can only be addressed once or twice, and then left alone, these boards will die.  New people will address old issues, issues you have all discussed many times.  Ummm.... is that shocking???
 

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When those of you who have been here for a long time were new and asked a question, were you given any answers?  Or were you put down for your lack of "knowledge" and/or "total misconceptions" as far as certain readers are concerned?
 
I would just hope that this forum would be a place where newbies can ask questions and not be afraid to do so.  Seeing how many of them have been attacked and/or made fun of, sometimes I wonder.
 

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ORIGINAL: slavesunshine

Politesub53,

I disagree....if there are topics such as ask a Master, ask a sub/slave, etc. and questions are asked then should we not help, answer and support?
I think we should.

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You are supposed to be here to help, guide, and support. I don't care if the question has been asked 100 times and if the person did not want to use the seach bar. YOU ALL failed this girl. I am not sure if I want to continue on these message boards if this is what I can expect if I ever have questions.
I think we all should be treated with respect.

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ORIGINAL: lyricaldreams

for starters, He is the one that wants to add to the household. He told me what He wanted in my profile, and there it is. It isn't for me to question. Due to His work schedule, i don't get to spend much time with Him during the week. i really didn't think the question i asked would generate such nastiness.
lyrical

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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

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You are supposed to be here to help, guide, and support. I don't care if the question has been asked 100 times and if the person did not want to use the seach bar. YOU ALL failed this girl. I am not sure if I want to continue on these message boards if this is what I can expect if I ever have questions.
I think we all should be treated with respect.

I missed the memo that said my responsibility is to:  help, guide and support strangers on-line.

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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

I hope it has pretty pictures on it!