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RE: Does older mean wiser? - 11/17/2007 12:32:39 PM

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Wiser is based on life experiences,education and basic intellegence I would say. Age may or may not play a factor in my opinion.

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RE: Does older mean wiser? - 11/17/2007 2:01:19 PM

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As a freind of mine loves to say. "20 years can make you a wise Master or an Old Jackass."
Time alone, only means the opportunities for you to learn have been there, not that you have taken them.
How a person has used their time can male all the difference in the world.
ALL OTHER THINGS BEING EQUAL more years on the planet will generally mean one has gained more knowledge and experience and will have more wisdom.
But then to be perfectly fair the only way for "all other things to be equal" would be to compare yourself 5 years ago with you now, and then project you 10 years from now.
Are you wiser today than 5 years ago? will you likely be even wiser 10 years from now?

I agree with Archer but would also add that experience can mean next to nothing with someone new. BDSM and d/s are so defined by the actors involved in the relationship that what you learned in one relationship can be literally meaningless when you try to apply it to another person. However, knowing about and feeling comfortable with you and your role goes a long way towards being able to adapt to those situations.

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RE: Does older mean wiser? - 11/17/2007 5:26:31 PM

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I think that wisdom does improve with age, but it is all relative to the individual -- if folks are idiots at 20, they ought to graduate to being as "wise" as morons by the time they are 50.

Needless to say, this is something I have learned over the years. When I was 20 I thought I kenw it all, but I know a few more things now.

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RE: Does older mean wiser? - 11/17/2007 5:31:31 PM

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Yes - everyone younger than me is unwise and everyone shorter than me I call Stumpy.

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RE: Does older mean wiser? - 11/17/2007 5:51:53 PM

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Sometimes you'll run into someone who despite their youth has "wisdom beyond their years". All that really means is that you have an unusual individual who has really made the most of the opportunities to learn life has presented them with... and perhaps also life has presented them with more opportunities than the average person. But such individuals are the exception to the rule.

Bottom line, in many cases older may mean wiser, younger will probably mean less experienced... but there are exceptions either way. Which is why getting to know someone before you entrust yourself to them is so important.

This is a BEAUTIFUL POST!!

Everyone wants to be the exception to the rule and if that were the case then it would simply be the rule and the exception would be the guy who just don't get it.

I know that some will see this a blowing my own horn but trust me admitting these things is not someting easy for some people, Humility is uaully a sign of someone who has learned a few things. Only my opinion though.

I am a Recovering Drug Addict. Life presented that to me early on, through my Recovery and my new lease on life I have adapted to accepting life on lifes terms as that is all I can do, life is simply going to be as it is. Bad things happen to Good people and Good things happen to bad people, don't take it personally just accept it.

I have lost people I respected and who were very close to me, I held one as they died and I was helpless to do anything about it as I lack the magical powers Jesus had and was unable to heal the gun wound with my hands. Death shows you how fragile life really is.

I have has a son and brought a new life into this world and have been given the ultimate decisions of how I am going to leave my mark on my childs life and teach them the difference between right and wrong and always knoe that life is as it is and know that I cannot save him from this world so the least I can do is prepare him for it.

I have also been denied a child and fight for him daily, I have yet to see him in person and I know that there is a life so close to me that beats with my own blood, and that I am being denied the right to pass on the things I have learned.

I have been hated and loathed as an addict and had to go back to those people and make my amends and do what I had to to make things right, not for them but for me so that I could leave who I was behind me knowing that I did everything I could to make it right again.

Do any of these things make me BETTER than someone else? NO! Nor do they make me Wiser or Better equipt then someone else. What it means is that at 27 I may or may not have done everything that someone else has done or maybe I have done more, so who is to judge.

Get to know ME as ME, not Me as a Number.

I am More than my years I am the experiences I have LEARNED from, for not all experiences are learned from and offten people make the same mistakes over and over, I try to only make mistakes once, to make them twice is to show you were not paying attention the first time.

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RE: Does older mean wiser? - 11/18/2007 6:46:14 AM

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it really depends on the persons ability to learn and to retain what they have learned and to apply it to the circumstances when needed.
many can be in the lifestyle yet stay closed minded to the other ways things can/will be done.
the same can be sid for those who try and push themselves on others in an ttempt show their Domliness. when someone hs experience they dont need to push their weight round they let their words do that and ultimately their actions.

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RE: Does older mean wiser? - 11/18/2007 9:35:07 AM

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A wise Dom learns from others mistakes. A smart Dom learns from his own. Just because someone has years of experience in anything "not just BDSM" doesn't make them better, more wise or uber. What it does give them is experience that can be beneficial or it can be detrimental. Depending on how the person uses/applies the knowledge to the situation at hand. We all get into patterns of thought about how something is done which causes us to behave that way. Just because I have one way of doing things doesn't make me any wiser/better than others and vice versa. The greatest advice I ever got was I should always be open to learning different ways and to remain teachable because if you meet the Budda on the path kill him! So no older doesn't necessarily make a person wiser . It gives them their own experience.
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RE: Does older mean wiser? - 11/18/2007 9:44:03 AM

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imho and in my personal experience, i do equate older meaning wiser especially with Daddy. though He's 7yrs older than me, He does more life and kink experience than i do. so generally i would accept His advice and counsel before making that decision.

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RE: Does older mean wiser? - 11/18/2007 9:47:19 AM

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No, older does not necessarily mean wiser; and even if it does, sometimes it is too late to do anything about it.

You don't have the same opportunities when you are older that you had when you are younger, so the wisdom gained through the ages is wasted on regrets.

But you can always pass your infinite wisdom on to the younger generations.

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RE: Does older mean wiser? - 11/18/2007 12:17:09 PM

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You don't have the same opportunities when you are older that you had when you are younger, so the wisdom gained through the ages is wasted on regrets.

i find this an interesting statement...my opportunities have increased with my age & i continue to learn & gain wisdom on a daily basis, because i am open to these things...i have very few regrets in my life...i can count them on one hand & still have fingers left over...i don't dwell on them...that is indeed a waste of time & there is nothing to be learned from doing that....

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RE: Does older mean wiser? - 11/18/2007 12:22:54 PM

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Not always.

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RE: Does older mean wiser? - 11/18/2007 5:12:22 PM

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Part of wisdom is knowing One's limitations and shortcomings....in which case, yes, time and experience do have a way of illuminating those-
Using those experiences to grow better...hmm, THAT is the goal, isn't it!

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RE: Does older mean wiser? - 11/18/2007 5:17:04 PM

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So we're all in agreement. Good.

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RE: Does older mean wiser? - 11/18/2007 5:25:11 PM

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One of my favourite sayings is " growing old is mandatory, growing up isnt".
so no I cant say that I would agree with older being wiser...more experienced , maybe....depending on exposure to life, but wisdom is understanding and ability mixed with good sense....or learning positive lessons from experiences.
SO pretty much the same as everyone has said:)
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RE: Does older mean wiser? - 11/18/2007 10:50:53 PM

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At age 60, I'm not as good as I once was, but I'm as good once as I ever was.

Sometimes a year of experience is no more than one day of experience, repeated 365 times.

It's not age that determines a person's wisdom, it's how a person has assimilated information, combined with that they have done with their experiences, combined with what they have learned from their mistakes and the mistakes of others.

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RE: Does older mean wiser? - 11/18/2007 10:53:14 PM

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Being a precocious 19 year old, I must say that age does not determine Wisdom, as I've seen Experiences and willingness to accept and learn from them are the true teachers of wisdom.

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RE: Does older mean wiser? - 11/18/2007 11:11:11 PM

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Erudition comes with effort, but time does in fact play a part. However, i feel that how one uses their time has a direct impact on ones wisdom, so goal is to spend your time learning, learning, learning!!!

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RE: Does older mean wiser? - 11/19/2007 10:03:26 AM

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I was wondering for the Older Doms out there...........does older make You wiser or are You still learning different aspects of the lifestyle?

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RE: Does older mean wiser? - 11/19/2007 12:19:36 PM

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From my perspective - no.

Wisdom, experience and age are not synonymous. One can have experienced a lot, but if one fails to learn from it and draw introspective conclusions and adjust one's behavior based upon experience - then one is merely an experienced fool. If you add age to that and deal with an individual whom fear has deprived of experiencing -and hence self-learning- anything - then one is an old fool.

Learning from one's own experiences and that observed from others is the first step towards wisdom. Being able to retain such insights and the self-corrective behaviors may get you yet closer. Acknowldeging that one is but an apprentice in life and never ceases to grow, experience, self-reflect and self-correct - that might almost get you to mid-field of wisdom.

I like to borrow from someone with much more insightful observations about wisdom - a fellow named Plato: his dialogues mention the virtue of wisdom, as knowledge about the Good and the courage to act accordingly. The Good is about the right relations between all that exists and involves the perfect ideas of good government, love, friendship, community, and a right relation to the Divine.

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RE: Does older mean wiser? - 11/19/2007 8:37:36 PM

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I was wondering for the Older Doms out there...........does older make You wiser or are You still learning different aspects of the lifestyle?Does life-experince over ride a newbie or some one who has been in say 5+ years verses say 16+?
basically what i am trying to say with-out meaning disrepect of any kind just because You as a Dom who has years of experince worth more then a Dom that has only say -4 years of experince?
Thank-You for taking the time to read my post and answering it i look forward to reading any one's answers

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