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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

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ORIGINAL: Sinergy

Actually, as TheHeretic pointed out, Gray Davis did not "betray" the people of California.  The law was ruled a violation of the state constitution

       Close, Sinergy.  RealOne was correct in pointing out it was the Federal courts that blocked 187 (the broken clock rule is my guess).

      

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ORIGINAL: kindsensualkinky

Was it Schiller who said "against stupidity the Gods themselves struggle in vain?"

remind me again, what's so Dominant about lacking the confidence to compete in the workforce with, oh, underfed peasants with the equivalent of a US primary school education on average??

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ORIGINAL: jesiul

Ok, all I can think of to say about Epgah is, this is one crazed and confused individual.

I have personally seen the down side of illegal’s from Mexico using the systems set in place. I worked at a bank, our check cashing policy set in place by corporate for the fruit packing companies local farmers and other such as this was to cash the checks no questions asked if they came in the same day it was cut. No ID’s required.

There was an older Hispanic female customer that banked with us, she was an illegal, yet she had several forms of ID, and at the first of each month she would bring in five SSI checks, three DSHS checks. The SSI checks where due to the fact that her illegal husband had been killed in a work accident under a fake Social Security number and she and each of her children received benefits. The DSHS checks where for her and two of her minor children and the other two checks where due to the fact that two of her daughters both under the age 18 had children. All this income was substantial, but to top it off she and three of her kids all worked for a local fruit packing company, making a fair wage, (approximately $2 more than minimum wage at the time) same pay rate as the legal’s working there. In 1994 her monthly income was near $5000.

So yes, I have seen the abuse of our systems; however she paid taxes, filed yearly income taxes, and claimed all income. I know this as she applied for a home loan with me and part of the requirement was tax returns for the last five years. (She brought in 8 yrs worth; every one since she had come to this country.)

On the other side of that, I can not begin to think how horrible the way of life is in Mexico. I have been there and felt truly saddened for the poverty stricken majority that lives there. Yet I don’t feel that we should have an open door for all those who wish to escape Mexico and come to America. However, as a resident of Washington State I can tell you that most of the jobs that are being done in Eastern Washington by illegals are jobs that almost no other person will do. The back breaking harvesting of crops from apples to hops are jobs that I have heard those on welfare, (Caucasians) openly state they wouldn’t do, since it doesn’t pay that well and they get free money.

Most of those that follow the agricultural harvesting are hard working honest people, just trying to make a better life for their selves.

Having said that, I can also say that they are a drain on the local schools, since hops harvest late into October, many of the children must attend class. Forcing the class size upwards of 35 students, requiring a teaching assistant that speaks Spanish/English in almost every class, yet the school Districts can not get funding to enlarge the schools since most of the onslaughts of students enrolling withdraw before the end of the school term.

Most of the local Hospital emergency rooms are overwhelmed with uninsured illegal immigrants, because a Hospital must provide service and none of these illegal’s have a health provider. The State Health Clinic’s have became the secondary stopping place since most now require ID of some sort, even then trying to get into such a place for treatment would be daunting to most as the main client is Hispanic, poor and uneducated, making any who would seek out service there unwilling to attempt trying.

I have no idea how to enforce the current laws upon those unwilling, unable or to lazy to implement illegal immigration into this Country. I have seen first hand the rushing of the boarder from Mexico into California. If it can’t be stopped there, how in the world is an inadequate understaffed boarder patrol going to slow down the problem?

Epgah speaks of forcing English on all those who happen to speak multiple languages or in the Hispanic community mainly Spanish.  Where he gets the idea that America is a strictly English speaking Country is beyond me. Hey I am a Native American, which means my Ancestors are from here, we didn’t emigrate from another country.

I speak fluent Cherokee, some Yakima and a tiny bit of Apache. Oh and also English and have a working knowledge of Spanish. I have no problem pressing #1 for English, since no company offers my native language of Cherokee. I wonder why since Cherokee is the largest tribe in America? Am I being discriminated against, for crying out loud, where is my equality as an original American? Since I am calling from America, and am a “Native” American shouldn’t they assume I would be speaking some form or dialect of my tribe’s language?


The very thought of forcing sterilization on someone so that can’t use a loophole in our system to stay here makes me shudder in repulsion. Arming the boarders for the soul purpose of killing any that try to cross, is insanity. It is along the lines of marching, an entire nation of people across the country because you want their land. Its simple mass murder wrapped in a in a catch phrase, “Eminent Domain.”  In this cause it would be, “Illegal Immigration” I mean how others dare try to come to this country, it was stolen fair and square over two hundred years ago.

Yes illegal immigration is a drain on communities, but I think that we single out the Hispanic population because we assume it is easier to spot them. When was the last time that you heard a foreign accent from some Caucasian and assume them to be illegal?

Just my rant on the insanity that spewed from Epgah, some people!

~jesi~  

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ORIGINAL: GoddessDustyGold

For all those who have been attacking EPGAH, perhaps with some reason.
With his permission a quick explanation.
He had several friends killed and was left for dead himself by "illegals".  No further details concerning the outcome of this are necessary and will not be shared.  This does not excuse his behavior, but perhaps makes it more understandable.  He has written to Me, and, hopefully he is working on placing his personal upset and anger in a better place so that his opinions will carry less vitriol and more weight.
'Nuf said...

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ORIGINAL: GoddessMine

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ORIGINAL: GoddessDustyGold

For all those who have been attacking EPGAH, perhaps with some reason.
With his permission a quick explanation.
He had several friends killed and was left for dead himself by "illegals".  No further details concerning the outcome of this are necessary and will not be shared.  This does not excuse his behavior, but perhaps makes it more understandable.  He has written to Me, and, hopefully he is working on placing his personal upset and anger in a better place so that his opinions will carry less vitriol and more weight.
'Nuf said...

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.

Love,
GM

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ORIGINAL: GoddessMine

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ORIGINAL: GoddessDustyGold

For all those who have been attacking EPGAH, perhaps with some reason.
With his permission a quick explanation.
He had several friends killed and was left for dead himself by "illegals".  No further details concerning the outcome of this are necessary and will not be shared.  This does not excuse his behavior, but perhaps makes it more understandable.  He has written to Me, and, hopefully he is working on placing his personal upset and anger in a better place so that his opinions will carry less vitriol and more weight.
'Nuf said...

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.

Love,
GM

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

It's in the California state constitution that they have to give money to illegal aliens?

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ORIGINAL: Sinergy

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

It's in the California state constitution that they have to give money to illegal aliens?

We have been over this before, Popeye1250.

There is this little legal concept embedded in the Constitution of the United States which states that a person is innocent until proven guilty. The person is not an "illegal" anything until they have been tried and convicted.  Until then, they are not an illegal anything, as much as you would like them to be.

Secondly, a doctor takes an oath to provide care and succour to the ailing and the needy.  They do not take an oath to prosecute crimes against the state.

Sinergy

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ORIGINAL: GoddessMine

I was laughing at how melodramatic your post sounded. Hey, I can make up a story that strategically distracts fellow collarme readers and skirts away from the core issues, too: when I was a little girl, a gang of skinheads stared at Me laviciously while I frolicked innocently in Disneyland. So ever since, I now carry this unjustified, unchecked, and inane hatred for all white men and immediately assume that they all want to rape and steal from Me.
Legit, right?
Listen, Dusty, this doesn't have anything to do with you. Don't become his mouthpiece while he's stripped of voicing rights on these boards. Anyone can claim anything on these great Internets, Me included.

Love,
GM

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

I think that EP should direct his anger more constructivly towards his congressman and senators.
It is after all *our government* who is at fault here.
There is absolutely no excuse that there are 20 million illegal aliens in our country.
That is Dereliction of Duty plain and simple.