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RE: The "S" word - 11/23/2007 4:51:25 PM   
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So, I am reading one of the other threads and the term SLUT is being thrown around in various ways.
 
I don't want to hijack the other thread, so asking my question here..
 
Slut
 
What does the word mean to you?
 
Does it mean a negative thing when you use it ( call someone that ) ??
Does it feel negative when you are called a slut?
Does it feel different? less acceptable?  > when a man calls a woman that or when a woman calls another woman that?
Can men be sluts too?
  (giggles)
 
positive or negative<< is determined more by the attitude of the caller of the name  or   the attitude of the receiver of the name ?
 


i don't care for 'slut' as a term of endearment, but i am not collared.  It is possible it could take on a different meaning within the context of a D/s relationship.  i don't use it to insult women.....i think trying to demean S/someone by reference to their sex life is wrong.  If i deteriorate into name-calling, for some reason i use 'bitch'.
 
pinksugarsub


Thanks Pinksugarsub
   yes, as Kyttyn pointed out previously> 
being on ones knees, completely intuned to their voice and eyes when they say " my slut" with a slight tug of the hair and fire in the eyes>  can make a big difference in how we "hear" it...
for sure : )  and how we feel it as well.
 
thanks for responding. : )
 
 
[pondering whether I remembered to get batteries at the store on wednesday]
 

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RE: The "S" word - 11/23/2007 4:52:43 PM   
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I like the idea of my sub being a slut in the bedroom and prim and proper outside of that. She does not liked to be called a slut at any time - however, she will act out her sluttiness for me when we play. To answer part of the question - is she a slut - sometimes - Is the word negative - we don't use it - but we are aware of the action of being a slut - ie the stereotype. Am I a slut - I try to be sometimes .

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RE: The "S" word - 11/23/2007 4:53:16 PM   
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Before I became involved in the lifestyle the term "slut" was a very negative one however now I am owned by a man who uses it as a term of affection and praise and I am very proud when he calls me slut.  It was a long journey to get to this point of course.  I had to work hard to put his opinions and wants before my fears of what other people think of me.   Sluts have way more fun so Im very happy and proud to be one.

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RE: The "S" word - 11/23/2007 4:56:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: InkedMaster

Okay okay, lemme put on my serious shades, for just this one time dammit.
Its a term of endearment that I use with my slave. Whether I choose to call her that or "gasp" worse than that by societies standards, she knows it is out of love, the connection and bond we have allows for that type of verbal intimacy. Now I'm not asking her to blow the entire Penn State football team, or even the 21 year old pocket protector wearing brain that spanks it to algebra periodicals. I'm not asking her to sell it on a street corner so I can stay home and rebuild panheads. It's a word between us, one of many, that denotes she is as precious to me as my bike.


Nice "serious shades"  : )
and thank you for your additional comment.
 
  {she is as precious to me as my bike.}
::;smiles at eyesopened:::    kewl!


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RE: The "S" word - 11/23/2007 4:56:34 PM   
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If  I ever find myself liking the world slut or bitch or whatever derrogatory term for a female there is.. I'll have hit the rock bottom of atterntion deprivation.
 


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RE: The "S" word - 11/23/2007 4:57:33 PM   
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I like the idea of my sub being a slut in the bedroom and prim and proper outside of that. She does not liked to be called a slut at any time - however, she will act out her sluttiness for me when we play. To answer part of the question - is she a slut - sometimes - Is the word negative - we don't use it - but we are aware of the action of being a slut - ie the stereotype. Am I a slut - I try to be sometimes .


thank you MrSpectacular  : )

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RE: The "S" word - 11/23/2007 5:01:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Daddysjezzy

Before I became involved in the lifestyle the term "slut" was a very negative one however now I am owned by a man who uses it as a term of affection and praise and I am very proud when he calls me slut.  It was a long journey to get to this point of course.  I had to work hard to put his opinions and wants before my fears of what other people think of me.   Sluts have way more fun so Im very happy and proud to be one.


Jezzy
   I can relate to the "long journey" comment..
and agree >   ppppfffffttttt  to fearing what others think..
 
rah rah to " way more fun" 
 
thanks

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RE: The "S" word - 11/23/2007 5:07:09 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Cyntilating

So, I am reading one of the other threads and the term SLUT is being thrown around in various ways.
 
I don't want to hijack the other thread, so asking my question here..
 
Slut
 
What does the word mean to you?
 
Does it mean a negative thing when you use it ( call someone that ) ??
Does it feel negative when you are called a slut?
Does it feel different? less acceptable?  > when a man calls a woman that or when a woman calls another woman that?
Can men be sluts too?
  (giggles)
 
positive or negative<< is determined more by the attitude of the caller of the name  or   the attitude of the receiver of the name ?
 

 
 
 


What does the word mean?  I look at it in a vanilla context and in a scene context.  In vanilla context, it's a sexually immoral person who is lacking in the honesty and committment areas.  In a scene context, with my owner, it's more of a pet name.

I don't use the word personally, but it's used on me by my Owner exclusively.  I don't think anybody else would --ever-- accuse me of being a slut.  She is, after all, the only person who sees the sexual side of me.

I don't take it as a negative thing at all, it's more of a pet name than anything else...  I love it when she calls me it.

Can men be sluts?  'Course they can, even though I usually associate it as a female-directed insult.

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RE: The "S" word - 11/23/2007 5:15:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LotusSong

If  I ever find myself liking the world slut or bitch or whatever derrogatory term for a female there is.. I'll have hit the rock bottom of atterntion deprivation.
 

"derrogatory" being a relative term and subjective.
what if>
    you hear it come from someone who says it with all the love in their heart?  and YOU feel it like the highest of compliments?
 
   "you little mutt-raisin"  can feel awful  or cute as hell..
can be meant by a ass of a man ( sorry guys) to make you feel awful about yourself {ie derrogotory} or he can intend it sweetly because his dear old mama use to serve him raisin bread and call him a mutt at the same time..and he just loves hearing that term..
 
point being..
derrogatory terms meant to keep someone else "down" and degraded ...
   I agree.....frap that noise!.
 
{respecting of course the kink of those who desire/want/enjoy and are ultimately empowered by degradation}
 
but terms
   ( even cunt...which I still cant wrap my head around and need to read my own words here )
are just words.
how we feel them and use them is subjective
and powerful...powerLESS or..empowering..
 
thanks for your comment..and I do respect your feelings... 
  
 


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RE: The "S" word - 11/23/2007 5:16:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Cyntilating

So, I am reading one of the other threads and the term SLUT is being thrown around in various ways.
 
I don't want to hijack the other thread, so asking my question here..
 
Slut
 
What does the word mean to you?
 
Does it mean a negative thing when you use it ( call someone that ) ??
Does it feel negative when you are called a slut?
Does it feel different? less acceptable?  > when a man calls a woman that or when a woman calls another woman that?
Can men be sluts too?
  (giggles)
 
positive or negative<< is determined more by the attitude of the caller of the name  or   the attitude of the receiver of the name ?
 

 
 
 


What does the word mean?  I look at it in a vanilla context and in a scene context.  In vanilla context, it's a sexually immoral person who is lacking in the honesty and committment areas.  In a scene context, with my owner, it's more of a pet name.

I don't use the word personally, but it's used on me by my Owner exclusively.  I don't think anybody else would --ever-- accuse me of being a slut.  She is, after all, the only person who sees the sexual side of me.

I don't take it as a negative thing at all, it's more of a pet name than anything else...  I love it when she calls me it.

Can men be sluts?  'Course they can, even though I usually associate it as a female-directed insult.


thanks so much Shawn : )

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RE: The "S" word - 11/23/2007 5:24:45 PM   
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i like to say that i embody the term slut.

once upon a time, in my 'vanilla' life, i was just a slut-i slept around, got off, and left them.

for the last year i was Sir's slut. it's His pet name for me.

Now, i'm still His slut, but in a different sense-we are no longer exclusive, both looking for long term partners, and more in a true friends with benefits situation. i'm still His slut when we play. it makes me wet to think about being called that, honestly.

but i no longer feel the need to get off with anyone who might be able to satisfy me temporarily...so i guess now i'm a selective slut?

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RE: The "S" word - 11/23/2007 5:26:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Cyntilating

So, I am reading one of the other threads and the term SLUT is being thrown around in various ways.
 
I don't want to hijack the other thread, so asking my question here..
 
Slut
 
What does the word mean to you?
 
Does it mean a negative thing when you use it ( call someone that ) ??
Does it feel negative when you are called a slut?
Does it feel different? less acceptable?  > when a man calls a woman that or when a woman calls another woman that?
Can men be sluts too?
  (giggles)
 
positive or negative<< is determined more by the attitude of the caller of the name  or   the attitude of the receiver of the name ?
 

 
 
 


The word slut being applied to someone whom you know I do not see as negative, maybe even an endearing term, I mean, would someone not be proud of the fact that another thought of them as a person to have the best kind of pleasure with.

Slut applied to another one does not know I do see as a word that has no right to be used, judging others, is not me.

Yes, men can be sluts, I used to work with a chap who refferred to himself as a slut, he revelled in the term, oddly, he was openly kinky too and a bit of a tart.

Yes, I see no problem with the word used by those who want it, and those whom it is applied to by those they know.


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RE: The "S" word - 11/23/2007 5:34:33 PM   
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Slut in the vanilla sense is a put down.  It is meant to be a degrading term. In the bdsm sense it is a term of endearment and is said more in line with telling a woman she is sexually free rather then promiscuous.  i associate slut with promiscuity (in the vanilla sense) and also a slut doesn't care who she sleeps with its the act that matters more then the person - she'll sleep with anyone to get off.  


Velvet
   I really like the way you describe that..
 
You make a great point about the different mindset between vanilla and bdsm..
so much more "freedom" is embraced in wiiwd.
some stereotypes fall away..or change formation.
terms>  like "humiliating"  take on a different meaning....taboos fade into the woodwork.
 
I just thought about this:

   If someone ( not in this lifestyle) I knew from 1980 phoned me and we talked about my life right now..and she/he called me a slut>
   it would most likely hold a negative feeling for me.
 
but if that same person was also a part of this WIIWD and we talked...
and I heard  " you're just a little slut aren't you? "    I might very well feel pride.
 
interesting
thanks Velvet.
 
 
 

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RE: The "S" word - 11/23/2007 5:38:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Cyntilating

So, I am reading one of the other threads and the term SLUT is being thrown around in various ways.
 
I don't want to hijack the other thread, so asking my question here..
 
Slut
 
What does the word mean to you?
 
Does it mean a negative thing when you use it ( call someone that ) ??
Does it feel negative when you are called a slut?
Does it feel different? less acceptable?  > when a man calls a woman that or when a woman calls another woman that?
Can men be sluts too?
  (giggles)
 
positive or negative<< is determined more by the attitude of the caller of the name  or   the attitude of the receiver of the name ?
 

 
 
 


The word slut being applied to someone whom you know I do not see as negative, maybe even an endearing term, I mean, would someone not be proud of the fact that another thought of them as a person to have the best kind of pleasure with.

Slut applied to another one does not know I do see as a word that has no right to be used, judging others, is not me.

Yes, men can be sluts, I used to work with a chap who refferred to himself as a slut, he revelled in the term, oddly, he was openly kinky too and a bit of a tart.

Yes, I see no problem with the word used by those who want it, and those whom it is applied to by those they know.



Interesting perspective
thank you, Aneirin  : )

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RE: The "S" word - 11/23/2007 5:44:03 PM   
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There's a huge difference between being called "a" slut and Him calling me "His" slut.  The former isn't true actually - I'd had very few sexual partners before He and I met.  However when He says "My slut" I get all gooey inside   To us it's a term of love and endearment.

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RE: The "S" word - 11/23/2007 5:46:47 PM   
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Can men be sluts too?


Yes, men can definitely be sluts too.  Being, as I am, a pain slut, a CBT slut and a general, all around slut slut, I LOVE being called, "Slut"

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RE: The "S" word - 11/23/2007 5:47:35 PM   
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i like to say that i embody the term slut.

once upon a time, in my 'vanilla' life, i was just a slut-i slept around, got off, and left them.

for the last year i was Sir's slut. it's His pet name for me.

Now, i'm still His slut, but in a different sense-we are no longer exclusive, both looking for long term partners, and more in a true friends with benefits situation. i'm still His slut when we play. it makes me wet to think about being called that, honestly.

but i no longer feel the need to get off with anyone who might be able to satisfy me temporarily...so i guess now i'm a selective slut?


 
so it was a negative that became a positive for you ?

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RE: The "S" word - 11/23/2007 5:48:24 PM   
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"'Slut' is a word a woman uses to describe someone who is doing what she wants to, but is afraid to"
 
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RE: The "S" word - 11/23/2007 5:49:37 PM   
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To me, slut has different connotatons depending on the context.
Personally, I use it with my boys, when they cannot deny me when I want to take them sexually. They are not a slut for everyone, but they are for me. As Fox said, it is almost a pet name.
If I am talking to someone else owned and I know how they are used, I can use slut with them as well. Same idea, they are at the whim of their Masters desires and not their own.
HOWEVER it can definately be done negatively, where a slut is someone unethical, who sleeps around without regard for her own safety nor the safety and emotions of those she is with. In context of the conversation, though, it is usually pretty obvious which I am using.

And men can be just as much a slut as a woman can. The difference ebing sexual promiscuity isnt as much of an insult to a man, for some reason. A woman with multiple partners is a slut, where a man is a stud...

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RE: The "S" word - 11/23/2007 5:49:51 PM   
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To me a slut can be male or female and its just a person who enjoys their sexuality and has many partners.

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