slaveluci
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ORIGINAL: LadySeraphina
Actually, slaveluci, I have to think it should have been obvious that these terms were being used in sarcasm
I love sarcasm and am a real champ at detecting it usually. I just didn't read it like that, sorry. If it was obvious, I missed it.
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Perhaps I simply have a thicker skin when it comes to self-directed jokes. I don't tolerate bigotry or racism, but it's possible that being a white woman from Western Canada I simply do not feel as threatened by jibes at groups I and my family (who are spread throughout the United States, as well as here in Canada) are part of
Perhaps so. That is very possible. I, however, don't enjoy such "jibes" or "self-directed jokes." It's not that I have a thin skin or feel "threatened," I just find them ignorant, mean, and thoroughly distasteful. I still utterly fail to see how anyone can see remarks like these that were made any differently than they do "jokes" involving the "n" word, Polish jokes, etc. Bigotry is bigotry is bigotry. Pointing it towards a "redneck" doesn't change that, sorry.
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One might also wish to remember that sometimes using terms that make a person bristle is a technique to highlight how ridiculous it is to judge anyone, or any group. I could choose to mock.. say, pierced wierdos, some would join in, and others would bristle. Of course, the fact is that I have 12 body piercings and have never met someone who was specifically weird (in the negative way) because of being pierced, but I've seen many people judged because of it, and thus might be drawing attention to how silly the stereotyping is
Jeepers, you mean people really do that? I'm fully aware of such techniques. I just don't feel that is what occurred here at all. Some people are skilled at doing that (see domiguy and mnottertail's posts for examples of finely tuned sarcasm and examples of just how to point out the absurdity of stereotyping, etc.) If that was her goal, she failed at it.
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But again, unless we asked the reasoning behind a comment, neither of us can be sure whether it was said ironically, or with prejudiced intent
Nope. Regardless of the "intent," the words are the same. If it was a post full of hate toward any other race, we wouldn't even be having this exchange. It's just us pathetic, pasty-faced rednecks that are required to have such a sense of humor about stereotypes and hatred.
Anyway, she was very classy and responded with an apology for how it sounded. I thanked her for that and I meant it. Usually the folks saying such stuff are to stubborn to even begin to think they're out of line for doing so........................luci
< Message edited by slaveluci -- 11/27/2007 7:54:44 AM >
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