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RE: Mind Fucks - 12/8/2007 3:47:06 PM   
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i wonder if there is a coorelation with hating magic and not liking mind fucks?  i won't watch magic shows, i get irritated if i am at a function and it's introduced, i have no curiosity in how it is done, just knowing it is a trick is enough for me - it is a waste of time.  Never liked magic. 

just a shot in the dark : )
   it toys with your emotional control over what you feel or sense is your reality ?  ::ducking::
 

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RE: Mind Fucks - 12/8/2007 3:49:22 PM   
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It's very, very reassuring in the end to know that no matter how dumb I can potentially look, he'll still love and cherish me.

But see I already do KNOW my Master/Daddy loves me no matter what, without (your words here) "looking potentially dumb"


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RE: Mind Fucks - 12/8/2007 4:00:00 PM   
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It's very, very reassuring in the end to know that no matter how dumb I can potentially look, he'll still love and cherish me.

But see I already do KNOW my Master/Daddy loves me no matter what, without (your words here) "looking potentially dumb"



Well, yeah. So do I. But what's wrong with a little extra? lol.
That kind of little game just isn't for you, that's all, and that's okay.
There are plenty of kinks out there that I can't wrap my head around, either.

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RE: Mind Fucks - 12/8/2007 4:06:21 PM   
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from one of the sect that pretty much owns the worlds workings, on your level.

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RE: Mind Fucks - 12/8/2007 4:06:44 PM   
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It's very, very reassuring in the end to know that no matter how dumb I can potentially look, he'll still love and cherish me.

But see I already do KNOW my Master/Daddy loves me no matter what, without (your words here) "looking potentially dumb"



Well, yeah. So do I. But what's wrong with a little extra? lol.
That kind of little game just isn't for you, that's all, and that's okay.
There are plenty of kinks out there that I can't wrap my head around, either.

I get ya.  I agree...its like liver...I LOVE the stuff, some don't. Never the two shall meet LOL...If its any consolation...I used to think that Daddy/little girl relationships were sick and disgusting....but I kept asking question, and ...gracious people like yourself kept answering, and I learned... I understood. I have even started to explore that dynamic with my Master...so you'll see me call Him Daddy probably. So there is hope for me honest. 

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RE: Mind Fucks - 12/8/2007 4:08:09 PM   
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RE: Mind Fucks - 12/8/2007 4:14:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		This is what I posted on a different thread that had ventured off into the mindfuck topic:
 

imo
a mind fuck doesn't have to be negative, degrading, testing or harmful emotionally.
It can be used also to
   heighten senses and awareness, emotionally and physically
   build sensual and sexual tension
   pre-set a scenario or a mindset, hours or sometimes days before playing.
   perk ones imagination in a darker sense of kink..
 
which is how Tyson uses them.
 
   sometimes it does allow me to feel the level of trust I have in him, but I don't feel "tested" .
  and sometimes it can probably serve as a way of him experiencing my complete surrender to his control, but I don't think he would say that it is testing my submission.
 
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perhaps my interpretation of a mindfuck isn't as intense as many others experience or definition.  Tyson doesn't enjoy or use degradation.  My experiences are usually to heighten my senses...Perk my awareness and imagination.  Make me sexually pent-up until he is ready to let me release my shaking body.  They do not cause me to distrust him.  He doesn't lie to me tho' .....perhaps innuendos are used to make me imagine or wonder, but no lies are told.
 
Velvet asked for an example :

my first lifestyle relationship was with a Top.
He was subtle, but loved a good mindfuck.
He had an extensive toy bag and loved his whips.
One of his fav's was
  Instructed me to remove all his toys from the bag and clean them laying them out in the particular way he enjoyed using them in.  He  asked me questions while I cleaned...my thoughts about how it would feel to have that used on me...making me express my desires...inserting some of his ideas..
 making me extremely hot and wiggly with thoughts and feelings..
  The he told me to re-pack everything up. of course, complimenting me for a job well done and what a good girl I had been....groan and growl..
  sure felt like a mind fuck to me..
 
He also enjoyed "practicing" his whip techniques whilst I held the balloons in the back yard......
 
 
 

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RE: Mind Fucks - 12/8/2007 4:21:02 PM   
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RE: Mind Fucks - 12/8/2007 4:23:21 PM   
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RE: Mind Fucks - 12/8/2007 4:25:10 PM   
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Whatever you say, liver lips, but I gotta tell you; slick.......

Tommy Lee Jones (J, the men in black)

LOL


LMAO....liver lips......


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RE: Mind Fucks - 12/8/2007 4:27:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ja, that probably is a diss that flies way underneath the less than 40 crowd.

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RE: Mind Fucks - 12/8/2007 4:28:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		Personally, I think mental domination is the best kind. The ability to mess around with the head, is a true sign of domming genius.It frightens me, yeah, but there's something amazingly sexy about mind fucks. For me, that is.

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RE: Mind Fucks - 12/8/2007 4:36:25 PM   
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Personally, I think mental domination is the best kind. The ability to mess around with the head, is a true sign of domming genius.It frightens me, yeah, but there's something amazingly sexy about mind fucks. For me, that is.


Yes.. but could you eat a whole plate o' steaming smelly liver with some onions thrown in if you're good? Now that takes fortitude!

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RE: Mind Fucks - 12/8/2007 4:40:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		my mom used to make that, and wrap it with bacon to have some fat to cook it in, needless to say, I ate the bacon, and did not like how the liver colored the taste, seemed to me there could conceiveably exist a simpler way.

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RE: Mind Fucks - 12/8/2007 4:46:45 PM   
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Personally, I think mental domination is the best kind. The ability to mess around with the head, is a true sign of domming genius.It frightens me, yeah, but there's something amazingly sexy about mind fucks. For me, that is.

Yeah, I'm gonna have to disagree with ya there (bold font)
As for it being sexy?...to you it is.... and thats cool.


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RE: Mind Fucks - 12/8/2007 4:52:11 PM   
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RE: Mind Fucks - 12/8/2007 4:54:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		As with everything else here, mind fucks are subject to my usual advice that if you aren't comfortable with it, don't do it and everyone is different in what they want/need/tolerate.

That having been said, having him say I'm going to do x and not stop regardless of what you say is hot to me.  I know he isn't really going to do it to the point of ignoring my responses, but the moment of intensity of thinking that's possible as he has this look on his face that says I really mean it and is quite convincing, heightens the experience.  My trust in him within the scene is fairly unshakable and sometimes that means that attempts at mindfucks result in me just laughing at him.  However, one of the most memorable moments I've had was being put in the position where I had to fall physically and being restrained and blindfolded and not knowing where he was and having to trust that he was going to catch me.  It scared me, but, of course, he caught me.  Getting me to the point of orgasm and denying me, is a mindfuck and incredibly frustrating, but again, I enjoy that too.

There are areas where mindfucks would be inappropriate for me as a person such as rapeplay that was mentioned before.  I think for me personally as long as the person I am with knows what those issues are and stays away from them, mental domination or "mind fucks" are exhilirating and add to the intensity.  For me, stimulating my mind is as important as stimulating my body, if not more. I am not however, everyone and I can't say this same sentiment would have been true for me in prior relationships.  Like anything else, it's relative.

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RE: Mind Fucks - 12/8/2007 4:56:18 PM   
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Maybe the answer to that depends on what your definition of emotional masochism is. To me, emotional masochism in the BDSM context is the ability to eroticize any emotion that is normally acknowledged as "negative". Anger, fear, jealousy... turned around and changed into something hot. So, if part of the appeal of mindfucks is the fear one feels while getting one, I'd say yeah. =)


I like that definition very much!  Yes, the thrill is fear and anger and some humiliation thrown in for good measure, all eroticised, and making the intimacy and bond stronger in the end.  Definitely falls into charlotte's category of 'things I enjoy because I don't enjoy them' as immortalized in my sig line. 


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RE: Mind Fucks - 12/8/2007 4:59:30 PM   
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My mom used to bread that shit up and fry it in a pan with onions, serve it with mashed potatoes. I fed it to the dog, lol. I'm still not sure if she knows what I did or not.


As a youth, one time-------mom was doing the liver thing in the little pink round pyrex jonhsmansville what ever glass baking dish (which now has a place of honor in my cupoard, and eternal rest from cradling liver) and she went off when i said something  youthful and uncaring about her cooking the shit----------

mom, I love you, but liver?  that fucking shit is worse than I shit out......she smiled and let me take the bacon parts. I think her life was better for it, and mine damn sure was.

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RE: Mind Fucks - 12/8/2007 5:11:39 PM   
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As with everything else here, mind fucks are subject to my usual advice that if you aren't comfortable with it, don't do it and everyone is different in what they want/need/tolerate.

That having been said, having him say I'm going to do x and not stop regardless of what you say is hot to me.  I know he isn't really going to do it to the point of ignoring my responses, but the moment of intensity of thinking that's possible as he has this look on his face that says I really mean it and is quite convincing, heightens the experience.  My trust in him within the scene is fairly unshakable and sometimes that means that attempts at mindfucks result in me just laughing at him.  However, one of the most memorable moments I've had was being put in the position where I had to fall physically and being restrained and blindfolded and not knowing where he was and having to trust that he was going to catch me.  It scared me, but, of course, he caught me.  Getting me to the point of orgasm and denying me, is a mindfuck and incredibly frustrating, but again, I enjoy that too.

There are areas where mindfucks would be inappropriate for me as a person such as rapeplay that was mentioned before.  I think for me personally as long as the person I am with knows what those issues are and stays away from them, mental domination or "mind fucks" are exhilirating and add to the intensity.  For me, stimulating my mind is as important as stimulating my body, if not more. I am not however, everyone and I can't say this same sentiment would have been true for me in prior relationships.  Like anything else, it's relative.

I get what you mean...and to be honest, I can even see me surviving nicely the scenarios you put forth. I also like my mind stimulated  and Master/Daddy does a great job.

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