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RE: Mind Fucks - 12/10/2007 11:50:58 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Vanatru

mmm liver yum! still needs to be just slightly pink in the middle (not bloody though). dang! it's been too long since I had it last, it's going on the grocery list though now... maybe with some brussel sprouts, yeah.

It never made it on the grocery list. With all due repsect and love Master, that's not a mindfuck thats just wrong and sick!

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RE: Mind Fucks - 12/10/2007 11:57:33 AM   
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ORIGINAL: velvetears

You either love them or hate them.  i want to know how you do a mind fuck successfully without undermining the trust issues in the relationship?   Are they done to test the sub/slave, to frighten him/her?  What other reasons would one do a mind fuck? 

i like to keep an open mind about things but i think a dom who really got off on them would piss me off eventually.  It would be hard to trust someone like that and i prefer trust in my relationships.  Maybe there is something i am not understanding about them that someone can shed some light on??


I like a good mindfuck.  As elusive1 and others have noted, it keeps a submissive on their toes and it stretches my mind as well as hers.  I do not attempt it with someone that I am not in fairly frequent communication with and I have rarely done it with casual partners...one reason being that I do not know all their little triggers and safespots and another reason being that there must be trust in order for a mindfuck to occur.  As ron noted, it is a suspension of belief and that is most easily accomplished...as paradoxical as it seems...with one who trusts you enough to being them back to where they should be and with one who is imaginative and free enough to get there.

There are other motivations for me to do one...and some motivations vary from one mindfuck to the next...but just as with julia and sinergy, I don't believe this is an area where the submissive has to know every motivation behind what I am doing.

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RE: Mind Fucks - 12/10/2007 1:46:41 PM   
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This has been a terrific topic, with tons of interesting posts thank you!!!!
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ORIGINAL: Jasmyn

I think there is a correllation between the so called Five Stages of Grief and why people enjoy being mind fucked in a scene...
  1. Denial: The initial stage: "It can't be happening."
  2. Anger: "Why ME? It's not fair!" (either referring to God, oneself, or anybody perceived, rightly or wrongly, as "responsible")
  3. Bargaining: "Just let me live to see my child(ren) graduate."
  4. Depression: "I'm so sad, why bother with anything?"
  5. Acceptance: "It's going to be OK."
It's only a new thought, so I haven't explored the ins and outs of this line of thinking ... but when I look back on the minor and major mind fucks I've done or being party to in scene setting ... the submissive party displayed the behaviours described above. ..

A good mind fuck is like being taken to the edge of a cliff ...and not been thrown off ... or if you are ...there is a net to catch your fall ...
This is a great. Never thought of it thru the full process, huh!
I love a good mindfuck. LOVE. Sometimes they aren't as successful as others, because you have to believe in order for it to be truely mind-blowing. Someone already touched on how they are different to different people - not unlike the blanket statement of "I like spankings!" Who doesn't? but spankings mean a variety of things to everyone. One person's ideal of spankings is OTK, another's is with a paddle until they blister, another's is with a cane until they bleed. Huge difference based on the common theme.

My Husband uses mindfucks with me not only for his own amusement but to expand boundaries, our play but also to guide me in areas that he's pretty sure I'll be able to accept - but I can't initially. What exactly is going on doesn't matter, it's the intent behind it and the thought process of the fuckee - the belief that it will happen. So for us many of the more extreme variations wouldn't work because I couldn't believe. I know what he is & isn't capable of doing to me, so the threat of "I'm gonna tie you up and cut you" wouldn't work - I KNOW he would never do this, ever. The threat of "I'm gonna hold you and let someone else take you" would work, he would do this.

He doesn't get into degradation or tearing down either. And no crawling on the floor a few feet in Home Depot to pay for a big fern doesn't apply If you "degrade" yourself for something it's grappling with your own pride.


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RE: Mind Fucks - 12/10/2007 1:50:54 PM   
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Sabella:
This has been a terrific topic, with tons of interesting posts thank you!!!!


Another successful mindfuck, I used my copious profiles to make this whole thread, and didn't mean a goddamn word I said!!!!!!!!

LOL

Lon Chaney Master  

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RE: Mind Fucks - 12/10/2007 1:52:22 PM   
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<---wants to play leapfrog in traffic with Ron to see which one of us will REALLY hop in front of the bus.

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RE: Mind Fucks - 12/10/2007 2:01:37 PM   
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OK, you bend over, with your ass in the air---------

Um, we ain't going to make it any farther than that.

Ron

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RE: Mind Fucks - 12/10/2007 2:02:52 PM   
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Hockenheim all over again!!

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RE: Mind Fucks - 12/10/2007 2:05:53 PM   
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Spike Lee will be there----

'Mount the Bus, the Prequel'

She will get an academy award for the best stuntman performance in a supporting role.

Oscar

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RE: Mind Fucks - 12/10/2007 2:08:55 PM   
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That would be a supported role I would hope....wait. Who said anything about the BUS getting mounted?! Ron, you kinky thang you ;)

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RE: Mind Fucks - 12/10/2007 2:11:29 PM   
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(Sabella, I think sometimes Ron calls himself The Bus.)

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RE: Mind Fucks - 12/10/2007 2:27:18 PM   
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Identity revealed...Jerome "Ron the Bus" Bettis.

A lot becomes clearer now!

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