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RE: Disobedience & Barbwire - 12/13/2007 8:04:06 PM   
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RE: Disobedience & Barbwire - 12/13/2007 8:05:49 PM   
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RE: Disobedience & Barbwire - 12/13/2007 8:27:04 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Jeffff

This is a joke right?...............................right?



Jeff


yes, it's effin hilarious, i happened to meet someone i thought was sincere, serious, & sane when i was a lot on the vulernable side and ended up getting strung along yet again.  i've been laughing all day at all of myself i foolishly invested in someone who truly never had my best interests at heart.  ha ha how funny.  it was a riot when i was on cam this morning naked and ordered to severely injure myself because He said so.... and could do nothing but cry hysterically upon the realization of how stupid i was for allowing things to get as far as they did etc...
 
but yes, on the plus side, He truly did take care of most of financial needs during the time He owned me and i did regain my senses.

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RE: Disobedience & Barbwire - 12/13/2007 8:35:42 PM   
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luckily it only ended up being online


Count your blessings or we might of been reading another severe abuse story.

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RE: Disobedience & Barbwire - 12/13/2007 8:47:31 PM   
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RE: Disobedience & Barbwire - 12/13/2007 10:27:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		So tell us what you have learned.  That anonymous words on a screen do not a relationship make? That giving power to a stranger is dangerous?

Forget the financial aspect, you were lucky in that he paid your bills instead of defrauding you of your own money; however, it sounds like you went backwards in your career. 

Remember what you learned from this the next time someone piques your interest online.  Then come back and tell us about the great guy you met in person.

I hope you find the peace you seek.

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RE: Disobedience & Barbwire - 12/13/2007 10:37:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		The money he sent was "real," eh?  A round-trip ticket from Rome to Charlottesville (or vice versa) is under $1,800.  Meeting in real is real.  Paying for a private webcam show is not most men's way of demonstrating emotional investment.

And, #2, this may seem like a small point, but why the HELL are you capitalizing "He" and "Him" when you talk about this guy?  I would have to buy a custom keyboard with extra-tiny letters if I wanted to write about him.  No way, nohow, does he deserve your respect.

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RE: Disobedience & Barbwire - 12/13/2007 10:58:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		If I order a sub/slave to fuck herself with barbwire and she started to go through the motions of doing it,  I would stop her short of doing it.   Why?  Because it would have been one of the following;  a mind fuck, limit test and/or perhaps a test of common sense.  I can't wrap my head around this one and remain sane at the same time. 

I suppose it could be a guilt tripping tactic for a Dom/Master to end things with somebody, by ordering her to do something that's a hard limit, something he knows she won't obey.. then say that's it you're released.

Just when I thought I was pretty open minded, I find myself being judgemental of somebody else's twisted activity they find enjoyment in.    Having a slave fuck barbwire literally... not sane in my mind.

Time for my smart ass remarks.    Some people treat slaves like they do their cars.   Where they burn out the transmission, strip grears, crack engine blocks, bend piston rods and all kinds of similar bad things from pushing things too far, too fast and too rough. 

Hell, I'm suprise the very second after he released you that you did'nt tell him to go fuck himself with the barbwire.  After all, you were a free woman again, no longer his slave.  LOL...  

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RE: Disobedience & Barbwire - 12/13/2007 11:00:38 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

The money he sent was "real," eh?  A round-trip ticket from Rome to Charlottesville (or vice versa) is under $1,800.  Meeting in real is real.  Paying for a private webcam show is not most men's way of demonstrating emotional investment.

And, #2, this may seem like a small point, but why the HELL are you capitalizing "He" and "Him" when you talk about this guy?  I would have to buy a custom keyboard with extra-tiny letters if I wanted to write about him.  No way, nohow, does he deserve your respect.



Where can we get that extra tiny keyboard? I love it...

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RE: Disobedience & Barbwire - 12/13/2007 11:05:30 PM   
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I'm sorry you had to waste that much time with a cretin.

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RE: Disobedience & Barbwire - 12/13/2007 11:08:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		This doesn't sound so funny to me. If some guy said that to one of my sisters I would have to hunt him down and pummel his gluteus maximus down to the bowels of pandemonium.
Sorry, I use big words when I'm peeved.

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RE: Disobedience & Barbwire - 12/13/2007 11:11:52 PM   
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Please let all those who believe themselves to be slaves (literally) without limits and rights read this post... twice.


Three times, four if need be.

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RE: Disobedience & Barbwire - 12/13/2007 11:25:19 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Dedj
 
but yes, on the plus side, He truly did take care of most of financial needs during the time He owned me and i did regain my senses.


This last little bit concerns me. You've brought up the "financial needs" more than once. Considering the situation, money is the least of your worries. There isn't enough money in the world that would make me even consider doing what he told you to do. If you are suggesting that the fact that he took care of your financial needs excuses the other irresponsible and potentially harmful behavior, then you might want to take a step back and re-evaluate your priorities. Your health and well-being should always be a priority. Be very, very thankful that this came to light now as opposed to when you began your training with him. After all, what would have happened if he had made this demand in person instead of online? When you didn't follow through, what would his response have been if he was there in person? A scary thought, don't you think?

< Edited for bad spelling.

< Message edited by cautiousiasub -- 12/13/2007 11:26:48 PM >

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RE: Disobedience & Barbwire - 12/13/2007 11:26:04 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

The money he sent was "real," eh?  A round-trip ticket from Rome to Charlottesville (or vice versa) is under $1,800.  Meeting in real is real.  Paying for a private webcam show is not most men's way of demonstrating emotional investment.



actually the amount He sent me was way over that...   i have no doubts He could easily fly me to Rome or Milan anytime He wanted to...
 
quote:

ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

And, #2, this may seem like a small point, but why the HELL are you capitalizing "He" and "Him" when you talk about this guy?  I would have to buy a custom keyboard with extra-tiny letters if I wanted to write about him.  No way, nohow, does he deserve your respect.

  

habit i suppose.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner4SexSlave

If I order a sub/slave to fuck herself with barbwire and she started to go through the motions of doing it,  I would stop her short of doing it.   Why?  Because it would have been one of the following;  a mind fuck, limit test and/or perhaps a test of common sense.  I can't wrap my head around this one and remain sane at the same time. 

I suppose it could be a guilt tripping tactic for a Dom/Master to end things with somebody, by ordering her to do something that's a hard limit, something he knows she won't obey.. then say that's it you're released.

Hell, I'm suprise the very second after he released you that you did'nt tell him to go fuck himself with the barbwire.  After all, you were a free woman again, no longer his slave.  LOL...  


i told Him i was sorry but i couldnt damage myself like that....    then He released me.  later when He started talking to me again i did tell Him i thought He was wrong and had been leading me on and giving me false hope...   He disagreed and felt i wasnt showing 'proper' respect and i made the comment that a few hours earlier i had felt nothing but admirmation and adoration.  He was obviously very displeased with me.  oh well.
 
i just dont understand why He kept wanting me back when He knew my limitations to begin with and i was nothing but completely honest about them at all times.

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RE: Disobedience & Barbwire - 12/13/2007 11:30:35 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Dedj

i just dont understand why He kept wanting me back when He knew my limitations to begin with and i was nothing but completely honest about them at all times.



Pick one or more of these descriptions to answer the "why" question:

1.  Because he is a jackass.
2.  Because he is a sociopath.
3.  Because he wanted to see how far he could push you.
4.  Because he's a waste of oxygen.
5.  All of the above.

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RE: Disobedience & Barbwire - 12/13/2007 11:31:46 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Dedj

quote:

ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

The money he sent was "real," eh?  A round-trip ticket from Rome to Charlottesville (or vice versa) is under $1,800.  Meeting in real is real.  Paying for a private webcam show is not most men's way of demonstrating emotional investment.



actually the amount He sent me was way over that...   i have no doubts He could easily fly me to Rome or Milan anytime He wanted to...
 
quote:

ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

And, #2, this may seem like a small point, but why the HELL are you capitalizing "He" and "Him" when you talk about this guy?  I would have to buy a custom keyboard with extra-tiny letters if I wanted to write about him.  No way, nohow, does he deserve your respect.

  

habit i suppose.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner4SexSlave

If I order a sub/slave to fuck herself with barbwire and she started to go through the motions of doing it,  I would stop her short of doing it.   Why?  Because it would have been one of the following;  a mind fuck, limit test and/or perhaps a test of common sense.  I can't wrap my head around this one and remain sane at the same time. 

I suppose it could be a guilt tripping tactic for a Dom/Master to end things with somebody, by ordering her to do something that's a hard limit, something he knows she won't obey.. then say that's it you're released.

Hell, I'm suprise the very second after he released you that you did'nt tell him to go fuck himself with the barbwire.  After all, you were a free woman again, no longer his slave.  LOL...  


i told Him i was sorry but i couldnt damage myself like that....    then He released me.  later when He started talking to me again i did tell Him i thought He was wrong and had been leading me on and giving me false hope...   He disagreed and felt i wasnt showing 'proper' respect and i made the comment that a few hours earlier i had felt nothing but admirmation and adoration.  He was obviously very displeased with me.  oh well.
 
i just dont understand why He kept wanting me back when He knew my limitations to begin with and i was nothing but completely honest about them at all times.


What's to understand? This guy was obviously just out to mess with you from the start. Doesn't sound to me like he honestly thought you would go through with what he asked, although I have no doubt in my mind that he would not have stopped you from doing it. In the end, it sounds to me like he got what he was looking for: to torment you psychologically. If I were you, I would simply forget he exists and move on. I just hope you have gained some new-found wisdom over the whole thing, but I worry that this isn't the case when you say things like, "I don't understand why he did what he did."

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RE: Disobedience & Barbwire - 12/13/2007 11:32:09 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: cautiousiasub

quote:

ORIGINAL: Dedj
 
but yes, on the plus side, He truly did take care of most of financial needs during the time He owned me and i did regain my senses.


This last little bit concerns me. You've brought up the "financial needs" more than once. Considering the situation, money is the least of your worries. There isn't enough money in the world that would make me even consider doing what he told you to do. If you are suggesting that the fact that he took care of your financial needs excuses the other irresponsible and potentially harmful behavior, then you might want to take a step back and re-evaluate your priorities. Your health and well-being should always be a priority. Be very, very thankful that this came to light now as opposed to when you began your training with him. After all, what would have happened if he had made this demand in person instead of online? When you didn't follow through, what would his response have been if he was there in person? A scary thought, don't you think?

< Edited for bad spelling.


i almost think He was trying to use the financial aspect as another means of control...  that  needing money = needing Him   and by so doing thinking i would feel indebted and do the things He wanted even if they harmed me.  ???  i dont know.   but yes i did say earlier that luckily it never became real-time and it was scary to think what might have happened had i ended up going for training....  if He wasnt patient with me online and respected my limits and feelings there then He surely wouldnt in person.

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RE: Disobedience & Barbwire - 12/13/2007 11:38:52 PM   
Muttling


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RE: Disobedience & Barbwire - 12/13/2007 11:40:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		You talked to him after the barbed wire incident????? As far as him saying your weren't showing 'proper' respect to him after this incident, if he released you, why would you need to show him any respect? After his behavior and total disregard for your safety, disrespect is pretty appropriate.I've also read your journal entries, and if you go back and read these, you might have some insight. From my understanding of the journal entries, on the 12th you had some uncertainty in some things, and decided to go ahead with it anyway. Actually, HE decided for you.  Only you can decide if you want to continue talking to him, but what will happen the next time he decides to give you another chance? Will you go back?

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RE: Disobedience & Barbwire - 12/13/2007 11:49:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: cautiousiasub

You talked to him after the barbed wire incident????? As far as him saying your weren't showing 'proper' respect to him after this incident, if he released you, why would you need to show him any respect? After his behavior and total disregard for your safety, disrespect is pretty appropriate.I've also read your journal entries, and if you go back and read these, you might have some insight. From my understanding of the journal entries, on the 12th you had some uncertainty in some things, and decided to go ahead with it anyway. Actually, HE decided for you.  Only you can decide if you want to continue talking to him, but what will happen the next time he decides to give you another chance? Will you go back?


yes, He had me write the journal entries....    and yes the 3rd time i didnt ask to be taken back because i knew i wouldnt be able to do some of the things He wanted.  no, i won't go back.  [side note...   He just came online and i think i started having a panic attack...   He just sent me an im and buzzed me saying 'ciao']

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