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RE: Disobedience & Barbwire - 12/14/2007 6:36:24 PM   
Dedj


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ORIGINAL: Wickad

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Okay... so I didn't read the last page and my comments will probably get me 'virtually' shot on here but ... hey, that's what this thread seems to be about.

So,... here we have a 'submissive' woman describing a situation that we all know nothing about.  Well, that's not quite true, as we do have her side of things, and only her side of things.  She is making some pretty wild accusations and yet no one is interested in how true, or not true, these allegations are.  We do not have his side of things.  We do not have an impartial side of things.  We have a 'submissive' woman who is online to seek our advice.

Ahhh, and the advice.  I have never heard anything so asinine in my life.  Who for a moment would think it was 'Okay' to insert non-sterilized, jagged, metal into areas that could cause permanent harm or death?  Ohhh, wait, I know .... the OP would.  After all, she is here to try and determine if she is 'sane' for saying no - omg, who the hell would say yes?

The money!  So it came out that he sent her money.  Why did he send her money?  Chances are he didn't send her money 'just cause'.  Most people send money with the idea of getting something in return.  What did she promise in return?  What did he expect in return?

This entire threat smacks of self indulgent bullshit.  I'm sorry if some guy on the internet hurt your feelings but both he and the relationship weren't even real.  He was an amalgamation of your fantasies and his own 'online' persona.  The relationship was all in your head.

There is another thread on this very board about a transgender UK woman being detained in the US, stripped, denied her medication, and housed in a 'male' detention center.  I'm sorry, but your online fantasy life that led to a few hurt feelings just doesn't rate in comparison to such a huge breach of human rights.

Wickad


i am sorry i am not as important as a transgender woman from the UK.  thank you for making me feel more worthless than i already was...  even if i do know better i dont feel like it at the moment.  i think emotional/mental abuse can be just as damaging as physical...  the releationship was quite real...  there were also many phone calls and a couple of express letters from Italy, but i suppose those were just figments of my imagination.  He had every intention of flying me to Italy for REAL-time training and at one point i was naive enough and willing to go.  i dont think i ever said i thought it was OK to do what He had ordered me to do....  i think my action of 'not doing it.' speaks to that...   tho i did wonder if what He had had asked was anything similiar to 'knife play' ??  when i posted my original comment i was very upset, in shock, and looking for SUPPORT from the only place i felt i could even ask for it to help me be stong enough to leave this abusive relationship for good...  (and thank you to those of you that have provided that... )  the money was sent because He wanted to give the appearance of being a 'good' Master and take care of His property and my needs since He did not want me work...  now i think it was more to manipulate and control me even more and make it more difficult for me to not follow thru--which it did.  nothing was ever promised in return for it, yet taking it but make me feel much more indebted. 
 
what have i learned....   not to trust anyone, not to ask for support. i truly regret ever posting the 1st time because this really isnt very easy for me to talk about in a public forum.

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RE: Disobedience & Barbwire - 12/14/2007 6:42:16 PM   
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Move to Italy. Prove to him that he is all-knowing and omnipotent.

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RE: Disobedience & Barbwire - 12/14/2007 6:48:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: camille65

I was filled with shock and horror when I read your opening post. Until I came across the 'Outdoor Bondage' thread in General BDSM, sorry for not knowing how to link a particular thread but I did quote it below.Now I am left wondering if this thread was nothing but a gambit for attention? 
quote:

ORIGINAL: Dedj

i've always wanted to be 'tied' to a tree with barbwire and then flogged...   just need to find a sane person to do it!



i do have a bit of a barbwire fetish...   but only being bound in it.  i have a lovely pic of me wrapped it that cm didnt approve.  that is why i happened to have it.  but being asked to fuck myself with it is an entirely different matter.  if you like i can post my whole entire converstaion with Him since i apparently havent humiliated myself enough on here already?

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RE: Disobedience & Barbwire - 12/14/2007 6:59:02 PM   
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RE: Disobedience & Barbwire - 12/14/2007 7:22:43 PM   
Dedj


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ORIGINAL: OldBastardly1
Move to Italy. Prove to him that he is all-knowing and omnipotent.


i almost was going to...  i have no doubts now that i would have eventually made the Italian headlines.  but thank You for the advice.

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RE: Disobedience & Barbwire - 12/14/2007 7:50:45 PM   
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RE: Disobedience & Barbwire - 12/14/2007 7:59:20 PM   
BDlaowai


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Status: offline 		goodness... hate to see if razor swallowing or razor swallowing was the follow-up to that fun
hate to think of an internal bardwired cam probe for xmas...wonder if walmart has that in stock

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RE: Disobedience & Barbwire - 12/14/2007 8:44:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am reminded of AquaticSub's now immortal quote:
"If it sounds like an ER doctor's party story in the making it probably isn't a good idea".Fetish, or no fetish.

I'm reminded of the tale of the gay guy who gave his partner an enema with quick-setting concrete.........


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RE: Disobedience & Barbwire - 12/14/2007 8:54:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		kitty i can understand your difficulty in talking about this issue.  You do run the risk of posts slamming you, but you also get to read really awesome supportive adivice which i hope has helped you. 

You were duped by a very conniving, clever, manipulating man who preyed upon your desires to submit.  Thank your lucky stars you didn't end up over in Italy at the mercy of this lunatic.  Something in you, some little voice or shred of gut feeling kept you away - get  in touch with that side of yourself.  Learn to listen to that side more - it's subtle and sometimes it's hard to take notice because we are in such a frenzy to get our needs met - just remember it's not worth it.  Predators know this, they bank on it when looking for their next victim.  Any dom worth a damn will take time cultivating a relationship with you where you feel safe and secure.  They won't ask you to do barbaric things like shred your pussy and ass with barbed wire.  Think about how insane that request is and allow it to rise up the indignation and anger you should have within you for having this piece of garbage insult your integrity by trying to get you to do this heinous act.  You need to get MAD... feel that anger and indignation, through this you will salvage your self esteem and self respect.... YOU deserve better.... demand it and never settle for less.

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RE: Disobedience & Barbwire - 12/14/2007 9:58:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Dedj

quote:

ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

The money he sent was "real," eh?  A round-trip ticket from Rome to Charlottesville (or vice versa) is under $1,800.  Meeting in real is real.  Paying for a private webcam show is not most men's way of demonstrating emotional investment.



actually the amount He sent me was way over that...   i have no doubts He could easily fly me to Rome or Milan anytime He wanted to...
 
quote:

ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

And, #2, this may seem like a small point, but why the HELL are you capitalizing "He" and "Him" when you talk about this guy?  I would have to buy a custom keyboard with extra-tiny letters if I wanted to write about him.  No way, nohow, does he deserve your respect.

  

habit i suppose.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner4SexSlave

If I order a sub/slave to fuck herself with barbwire and she started to go through the motions of doing it,  I would stop her short of doing it.   Why?  Because it would have been one of the following;  a mind fuck, limit test and/or perhaps a test of common sense.  I can't wrap my head around this one and remain sane at the same time. 

I suppose it could be a guilt tripping tactic for a Dom/Master to end things with somebody, by ordering her to do something that's a hard limit, something he knows she won't obey.. then say that's it you're released.

Hell, I'm suprise the very second after he released you that you did'nt tell him to go fuck himself with the barbwire.  After all, you were a free woman again, no longer his slave.  LOL...  


i told Him i was sorry but i couldnt damage myself like that....    then He released me.  later when He started talking to me again i did tell Him i thought He was wrong and had been leading me on and giving me false hope...   He disagreed and felt i wasnt showing 'proper' respect and i made the comment that a few hours earlier i had felt nothing but admirmation and adoration.  He was obviously very displeased with me.  oh well.
 
i just dont understand why He kept wanting me back when He knew my limitations to begin with and i was nothing but completely honest about them at all times.  Stop defending him and bragging about the money. 


The simple answer is he couldn't find anyone else ridiculous enough to do the things he wanted for money and he could control you by making you not work and having to take his money.  Wake up.  I don't care if this guy gave you a million dollars, money is NOTHING when you are dead or seriously injured.  Stop bragging about the money and defending him and take a good look at yourself.  There is no reason on earth why you should have gone back three times to him.   He's a selfish, unsafe predator and you need to figure out how you fell for it more than once and are NOW still talking to him despite the barbed wire incident.

What do you mean you're having panic attacks from his IM's?  BLOCK HIM, IGNORE HIM, stop living off of drama and get a grip and take care of yourself.  This has nothing to do with you being transgender or not, it has to do with you being uncaring to YOURSELF.  The first person that takes care of you always is you. What we say doesn't matter, what you say to YOU does.  Tell yourself you're better than this and mean it.   If you cannot establish healthy boundaries, walk away from the lifestyle until you can, because you are going to be hurt badly.

If you think the replies here seem harsh it's because the questions are ridiculous and alarming.  People are worried for you, YOU should be worried for YOU.  You don't need to ask other people whether you should jump off a bridge because someone told you to, do you?

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RE: Disobedience & Barbwire - 12/14/2007 10:03:10 PM   
marsman


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Status: offline 		Over the years I have made some rules for myself about meeting others on the web.

1. I avoid Cyber sex. To me it is the same as trying to use porn magazines as a replacement for
actual sex with another person. There is no "physical" reality to it.

2. I never date anyone who lives more than a 30 minute drive away. I used to date women who lived hours away, but
was always frustrated at how long it took just to get together and have coffee or a meal...

I concur with those who suggest going out to the local community where you live to meet others.

The web can be used to meet others, but this use has to be limited to meet with those in your "neighborhood".



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RE: Disobedience & Barbwire - 12/15/2007 5:13:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		Just let it go, and move on>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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RE: Disobedience & Barbwire - 12/15/2007 7:26:01 AM   
Peridot


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It sounds like a great mindfuck. 

He should be upfront and tell you what's happening and not play with your mind.

Still scratching my head and I wonder...

Wanna make a bet if you ask in the health forum how to play safely with barbed wire  someone somewhere will come up with an answer?

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RE: Disobedience & Barbwire - 12/18/2007 12:19:27 PM   
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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

And, #2, this may seem like a small point, but why the HELL are you capitalizing "He" and "Him" when you talk about this guy?  I would have to buy a custom keyboard with extra-tiny letters if I wanted to write about him.  No way, nohow, does he deserve your respect.



I just spit my drink on my computer screen. I need to find one of those!

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RE: Disobedience & Barbwire - 12/18/2007 12:23:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ThinkingKitten

I am reminded of AquaticSub's now immortal quote:
"If it sounds like an ER doctor's party story in the making it probably isn't a good idea".Fetish, or no fetish.





I missed that the first time. Very true, and can't stop giggling now.

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RE: Disobedience & Barbwire - 12/18/2007 12:28:51 PM   
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RE: Disobedience & Barbwire - 12/18/2007 12:37:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		you sound sane enough, except for your repeated times of going back to this joker.  He is the one who has barbed wire for brains.

Get back to your life, take back the time you wasted on him and get your stuff in order, is my thought on it.


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RE: Disobedience & Barbwire - 12/18/2007 12:46:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		Another small thing:

You say youkeep capitilizing "He" and "Him" out of habit. Maybe this is the first habit you should break.

Peace and Love,

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RE: Disobedience & Barbwire - 12/18/2007 12:48:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: sexyred1

I am rendered speechless by this thread.

Barbed wire? Online relationships? A guy in Italy who collars and then releases at the click of a mouse?




as long as there is someone out there that will accept such treatment... there will be those that will delivery such treatment. 

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RE: Disobedience & Barbwire - 12/18/2007 12:53:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: kyraofMists

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ORIGINAL: sexyred1

I am rendered speechless by this thread.

Barbed wire? Online relationships? A guy in Italy who collars and then releases at the click of a mouse?




as long as there is someone out there that will accept such treatment... there will be those that will delivery such treatment. 


OK now... the above post shown by Kyra was actually posted by me.  .... seems like I need to pay attention to who is logged into the computer before I post... one of the learning experiences when you move a person in and go a use her laptop.....

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