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RE: How to determine the wannabes - 12/19/2007 12:02:43 PM   
sexyred1


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He may be a wannabe if his profile states "no wannabe subs" "tired of all the fakes" "don't reply unless you are ready to serve me forever" "don't reply unless you are ready to follow all my rules" "only real subs apply".

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RE: How to determine the wannabes - 12/19/2007 12:09:21 PM   
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Worng Jeff. They allways seem to say ouch when with me. Does that make me a wannabe?

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RE: How to determine the wannabes - 12/19/2007 12:11:05 PM   
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I' ll answer that in a second.I gotta go and change my profile.....

(fuckin red)

Jeff


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RE: How to determine the wannabes - 12/19/2007 12:12:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

I' ll answer that in a second.I gotta go and change my profile.....

(fuckin red)

Jeff




No, I just perved your profile, you are a TWUE DOM.  I mean, a META TWUE DOM.

< Message edited by sexyred1 -- 12/19/2007 12:13:42 PM >

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RE: How to determine the wannabes - 12/19/2007 12:27:33 PM   
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..thats cuz I changed it.......

Jeff

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RE: How to determine the wannabes - 12/21/2007 2:32:07 PM   
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Very well said ! Its amazing how many Gods we have on here. lol

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RE: How to determine the wannabes - 12/22/2007 9:50:58 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: chyanna

Please i need some help here, from All you Masters out there on how to see a fake from a true Master, i am sick of being used as a punch bag
sincerely
chyanna



The easy way is to look at quickly their trying to move in collaring you.  When someone understands the intricies of a D/s relationship than they'll be smart enough to let it set it's own pace.

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RE: How to determine the wannabes - 12/22/2007 1:14:58 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: chyanna

Please i need some help here, from All you Masters out there on how to see a fake from a true Master, i am sick of being used as a punch bag
sincerely
chyanna


Does he have quality vanilla friends?  Do people with no sexual interest in him ask him for advice and think he is good at handling situations?  How does he treat people he is not flirting with?  That's how he'll treat you when he's done flirting with you.

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RE: How to determine the wannabes - 12/22/2007 1:17:07 PM   
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ORIGINAL: OldBastardly1

In my opinion, they are respectful in their actions. They are reasonable. They are patient when teaching. They will admit they make mistakes and are not perfect. They do NOT have a God complex. And their's is not the one true way. They don't insist on hiding in the shadows and keeping your involvement secret.

And much more that I am sure will be added from others with more experience dealing with them.


Yes, exactly what OB said above.    Also - take your time.  Anyone worth knowing is going to let your relationship develop naturally and with respect.  Be open and honest in your communications, and if the Dom with whom you are speaking gives you reason to pause and wonder about him, listen to your instincts and do some thinking....and some talking with him to clear the air. 

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RE: How to determine the wannabes - 12/22/2007 1:20:26 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

quote:

ORIGINAL: chyanna

Please i need some help here, from All you Masters out there on how to see a fake from a true Master, i am sick of being used as a punch bag
sincerely
chyanna


Does he have quality vanilla friends?  Do people with no sexual interest in him ask him for advice and think he is good at handling situations?  How does he treat people he is not flirting with?  That's how he'll treat you when he's done flirting with you.



do you by any chance have a brother or clone that lives in NJ or NYC?

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RE: How to determine the wannabes - 12/22/2007 1:38:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: sexyred1

[Awaiting Approval]



~chuckle~

red, you know Santa's watching ... and you're on the naughty list it seems. Bad girl.

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RE: How to determine the wannabes - 12/22/2007 2:47:45 PM   
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Okay, here's my list of things to watch out for. If a prospective Dom/me trips any of these red flags, I walk away...

1. If they start demanding your obedience without so much as an attempt at talking with you first...they could be a wannabe.

2. They are dressed head to toe in brand spanking new (no pun intended) leather. (if any of it is from Wilsons, that's also a bad sign) that could mean they are a wannabe Dom/me.

3. If they claim they are part of any "old gaurd" or secret society of BDSM that's a sign of being a wannebe Dom.

4. They are over 35, and still live in their parent's basement. (Also handy for spotting trekkies) is a sign they are a wannabe Dom/me.

5. They arrive at the play party by bus, or are dropped off by their Mom is a sure sign of being a wannabe Dom/me.

6. They tell you they are a great Dom, because they've read all 26 "fantasy planet" novels. (Or that they got their domination style from the Beauty series, or O, or the Marketplace... or any fiction.) This is a sure sign of being a wannabe/fake Dom.

7. They've just agreed to play with you, (a comparative stranger) and they refuse to give you a safe word, which is a sign of being a wannabe Dom/me.

8. If they are the type that barks orders like a Marine drill sargent, chances are they are a wannbe Dom/me.

These are things that I use as part of my own filtering criteria.

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RE: How to determine the wannabes - 12/22/2007 3:32:09 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: sexyred1

quote:

ORIGINAL: chyanna

Please i need some help here, from All you Masters out there on how to see a fake from a true Master, i am sick of being used as a punch bag
sincerely
chyanna



chyanna, I read your profile and from what I can tell, you have had some bad experiences with people online. You cannot tell about anyone from just online. You have let a bunch of pixels on a screen upset you.

When I read what some guys wrote you, I snorted. Where is your self-esteem girl!! Who cares if you are a BBW, hell, so am I and I know I am the bomb and so are you.

Never let anyone take your self respect away from you and certainly never let anyone who calls themselves Dominant make you feel that way simply because you identify as submissive. There are many, many people who use the labels of D/s to mask their own insecurities and they are the ones who lash out at newbies like yourself with this nonsense.

If you let yourself get used as a punching bag, you will. Don't let it happen, Punch 'em back.

Just because you are new to the scene does not mean you are new to life. You are a grown woman, you are very pretty by the way and some guy will be lucky to find you.

A wannabe is someone who cannot get over on you; that is my take on it. I tell guys off all the time, because I do not take crap from anyone. I am very sweet until you act like a moron, then watch the fuck out.

Are you with me here, chyanna??

P.S. why ask the Masters how to determine a wannabe Master. Ask the subs.


i agree with everything said here and as far as the size, its how a woman carries herself that appeals to me regardless of size. You are a very attractive woman.  When you give someone yourself, you are also placing trust in them.  I want to be explore my submissive side but I will not me misused. 


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RE: How to determine the wannabes - 12/22/2007 8:59:24 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: batshalom

quote:

ORIGINAL: sexyred1

[Awaiting Approval]



~chuckle~

red, you know Santa's watching ... and you're on the naughty list it seems. Bad girl.


I know, that is why I had to get spanked really bad last night. Today I am all sweetness and light. How boring is that?

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RE: How to determine the wannabes - 1/26/2008 5:24:02 AM   
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In my opinion, they are respectful in their actions. They are reasonable. They are patient when teaching. They will admit they make mistakes and are not perfect. They do NOT have a God complex. And their's is not the one true way. They don't insist on hiding in the shadows and keeping your involvement secret

Well put OldBastard. I have lots of respect for My slave. I think showing a slave respect drives them to please you more. pay attention to how He approaches you, chyanna. If He comes respectfully to you, asking about you, telling you exactly what he seeks, and allowing you to check out his offer before he calls you anything derogatory then you have a good chance of Him being real. I never call My slave names, altho some Doms do, usually the real ones will at least talk a time or 2 before calling you something. I am proud to own My slave. I dont believe I would have pride in owning a slut, bitch, whore, etc. Im not saying All that have a slut, whore, etc. are fakes but I tend to believe a Real Lifestyler would be proud to own His slave. I am open to arguments and criticism for this but this is My thoughts

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RE: How to determine the wannabes - 1/26/2008 6:37:22 AM   
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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

that the torch has been passed to a new generation of kinksters -- born in this century


Now, then they would be a bit too young for CM TOS

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RE: How to determine the wannabes - 1/26/2008 7:25:38 AM   
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Well, the fact is there are a lot of fakes and women abusers posing as doms.
I think the first few items are these:
1. Most real Doms are interested in interviewing or questioning what your likes/dislikes and core values are to see if they are compatible with theirs.
2. They are not sending 1st emails with demanding messages to a woman that is not in their service.
3. While play and levels of play/interests may vary, generally real Doms have some level of love or affection with thier subs/slaves. They generally dont hate or despise them. They are interested in their well being. I actually think that's a responsibility.
4. Doms are self-disciplined. Their own lives are "together". How can you rule over someone elses life if you dont have your own shit together? You cant.
5. Most real Doms are emotionally mature. They arent screaming, throwing tantrums, or taking outs lifes frustrations on you.

Beyond that it is all personal likes and dislikes. Some women enjoy extreme pain or being shared. Some women want a monogamous relationship with a submissive role to their husband and some bondage in the bedroom---and that it.

To a degree, it is also a journey of self exploration for you as well. What are your limits? What do you really like/dislike.

If you are a BBW, then you decide you are happy at that size, and find men who are attracted to them---there are lots of men who do. Or, decide to change your body....that is really an indvidual decision. Everyone has preferences over body types and looks. One isnt wrong or right---its just a personal preference.

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RE: How to determine the wannabes - 1/26/2008 7:32:39 AM   
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R/T, you mean? For one thing, you may not want to advertise you're a BBW with MS. I appreciate your honesty, but there are a lot of idiots out there who will read that as "she's desperate and I can do what I want with her". Scening in chatrooms has nothing to do with anything, it's a bunch of people fantasizing together, so don't take that as a measure - if you're really good at transplanting fantasy to reality I have a nice movie studio in Hollywood you might like to run. And your best protection is to write out a fetish list, listing activities and boundaries, add a stopword, and make it a contract, that you and he both sign. Most people know that transgressing the terms of a contract can land them in jail - that of course means you have to be prepared to call the cops. But it is really easy, and it is all in the initial negotiations, which you have to approach with a businesslike attitude.

Hope that helps.

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RE: How to determine the wannabes - 1/26/2008 10:30:44 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: sexyred1
P.S. why ask the Masters how to determine a wannabe Master. Ask the subs.


Wonderfully said sexyred1.  Although we, or at least I do, tend to keep track of the plethora of wannabe's I've stumbled across in this vast electronic wasteland, who better to tell if a person is a playa or not but a sub?


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When I despair of the BS online, I remember that the ways of truth have always won. There are people that claim to be something that they are not, and, for a time, get away with the lie, but in the end they always fall. Think of it........ always!

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RE: How to determine the wannabes - 1/26/2008 12:21:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: sexyred1

P.S. why ask the Masters how to determine a wannabe Master. Ask the subs.



Very astute advice.

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