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The story of O - 12/16/2007 10:43:01 AM   
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i read this story when i was a teenager and parts of it turned me on, Yet when i just saw the movie they made out of the book i looked at it in a different light. To me it made her out to be a tramp. She was loaned out to everyone, even complete strangers which is fine, but what i don't understand is. When she claimed to be in love with Sir Stephan and he clearly hated loaning her out, Why did he do it? He never watched or stayed and it clearly made him sick.(in the movie) Yet with every stranger she was given to she loved it.If you loved someone and you knew it hurt them to loan you out. Why go? Also if it hurts you why loan her out. The movie made no sense to me. Did it to any of You?Please remember i am reffering to the movie and not to the book. Thanks

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RE: The story of O - 12/16/2007 11:59:41 AM   
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Dominance - having authority in the relationship

Submission- acting within the authority of the other

While I disagree that the sub needs to dislike something in order for it to be submission, and disagree that the dom has to deny someting in order for it to be domination, it is often a key and highly intense component to peoples Ds relationship for the sub to submit to something they dislike and for the dom to deny something the sub craves.

This work of fiction plays those two elements to a screaming pitch.

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RE: The story of O - 12/16/2007 12:08:55 PM   
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Well, I read it in college and the version I had ended with Sir Stephen getting bored with O, she says I'd rather die then lose you and he agrees to arrange that.  Maybe I had a bizarre edition, but it scared the hell out of me (I'm one of the high-angst subs out there).  Also, in the translation I read, she had NO say in starting the whole thing.  (I haven't seen the movie, but the book was quite problematic for me.)

I wouldn't say I would recommend the Story of O as anything other than a hot piece (at times) piece of fiction.  Profiles that say they want to reenact that as their life just scare me.

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RE: The story of O - 12/16/2007 12:16:57 PM   
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I saw the movie. It didn't do a lot for me, so I don't remember much of it, but to answer your question, sometimes a Master will have the slave do something because it is good for her/him, even though it is difficult for the Master.  To stifle the slave for selfish reasons may end up creating a slave that is not thriving.  However, in the movie, rather than train her to not want to be so loaned out, he gave her what she wanted.  Perhaps he felt loaning her out was the "Masterly thing to do" and did not want to give way to his emotions. Maybe he thought he would be seen as a weak Master if he admitted to having such emotions for the girl.  Maybe he enjoyed the emotional torture it brought him.  Maybe the script writers were trying to bring in more women to watch the film, and romanticizing the way he felt was a way of doing that.

Speculation, speculation, speculation, lol. 

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RE: The story of O - 12/16/2007 12:20:43 PM   
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I had the exact same reaction to the movie, while the visuals and the costumes were very sexy, the whole loaning thing out yet him not enjoying it was bizarre!

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RE: The story of O - 12/16/2007 12:41:32 PM   
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Is that the one with Carmen Luvana? If so, I really wouldn't take it seriously if I were you.

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RE: The story of O - 12/16/2007 12:49:44 PM   
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check out the Story of O series instead of the movie.  in luna's opinion the series did a much better job of showing a loving relationship between O and her Owner.  That her willingness to be shared pleased him, that he enjoyed it . . . and in luna's opinion the settings, costuming and acting are much better as well.
 
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RE: The story of O - 12/16/2007 12:50:17 PM   
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Exactly.

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RE: The story of O - 12/16/2007 12:51:51 PM   
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exactly also. but don't you agree that the movie never took the time or the extra 100 dollars to shoot a scene or two to maybe show his feelings?

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RE: The story of O - 12/17/2007 7:38:33 AM   
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Because the sub/slaves aren't the only ones that need to grow in a relationship.

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RE: The story of O - 12/17/2007 9:04:39 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Dominance - having authority in the relationship

Submission- acting within the authority of the other

While I disagree that the sub needs to dislike something in order for it to be submission, and disagree that the dom has to deny someting in order for it to be domination, it is often a key and highly intense component to peoples Ds relationship for the sub to submit to something they dislike and for the dom to deny something the sub craves.

This work of fiction plays those two elements to a screaming pitch.


I enjoyed and agree with this.

Also remember a dominant is a human being and not perfect. They can have issues and inner struggles between two things. For this example in O he can both hate the fact of sharing but drawn to the power of making someone do that for him.

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RE: The story of O - 12/17/2007 3:39:31 PM   
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i never knew there was a series. Where did you find that? Thanks

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RE: The story of O - 12/17/2007 4:24:21 PM   
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it was a tv series that origionally came out in 1992.  It was released on dvd in luna believes . . . 2003.  10 episodes.  There is a five disk set currently on auction on ebay for around $26 (buy it now).  Thats where luna got her copy.  just type The Story of O in the search bar.  The actress playing O is Claudia Cepeda. 

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RE: The story of O - 12/17/2007 4:49:34 PM   
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You know what I liked best about the "O"? The branding and the labia rings with tags. Totally hot...and totally do-able.

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RE: The story of O - 12/17/2007 4:52:38 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: takenbyjohnr07

exactly also. but don't you agree that the movie never took the time or the extra 100 dollars to shoot a scene or two to maybe show his feelings?


Why should the filmaker provide a movie goer with every little detail neatly tied up? Most films are made by an artist who wants to portray his or her vision, not to spoonfeed the mass public who likes only happy endings. I am constantly shocked by how little the general public wants to actually think and attribute their own thoughts to a film without having every detail handed to them.

Perhaps you should go back and read the original Story of O, which is a very fascinating book, in my opinion. It is of course, a bit nihilistic, but I believe that is the crux of the story, that O wanted to annihilate herself through her service as a slave to both Rene and Sir Stephen. As I recall, and I read it years ago, Rene was her lover who gave her to Sir Stephen; neither man appeared to love O, while she loved them both.

On another point, there are very few films that are as good as a book; simply because there is nothing comparable to the human to mind and its potential for imagination that even the most filmaker can conjure up.

And I saw the film, it sucked.

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RE: The story of O - 12/17/2007 5:07:26 PM   
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I was told to read the story of O by a Dominant who "discovered " me. I was on a dating site looking for a "commanding man". He pointed out what I was. I had no idea. When I read the book I was a bit freaked out. O had no say in the start of her slavery. I found it to be quite torturous. I think I found her to be quite pathetic. No matter what she subjected herself to. Her original Dom was completely smitten by the model that he could not control. She looked at O with disgust. What is the message with that? Completely submit and you will be thrown away for your lack of self worth? Play hard to get and you win?

I did always wonder if she was named O because her mouth had to always be in that shape!

The thing that made me able to come to terms after reading that book was the fact that I am a Deep Tissue Massage Therapist in real life. People submit to me when they are on my massage table. I even use a pain scale and have them rate the pain. I am completely intuitive and sensitive to them and their body. When I realized that this is the job of a Good Dom and a good Dom would be sensitive to me, I relaxed knowing I just had to find those with integrity and I would never go where I didnt want to go. Little did I know I would discover the pain slut inside.

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RE: The story of O - 12/17/2007 5:29:17 PM   
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It's been several years since I've re-read the book, but from what I remember, "O's" owners weren't so much disgusted by her being used by others, but rather by the fact they couldn't find a trial to put her through that she didn't enjoy. The loaning out to others began as an expression of ownership "you can only give away what is truly yours," and ended up as an afront because of her ability to submit to it so well.

I think this is called being a "bottomless pit" type of submissive. And it can be intimidating as hell for a dominant that doesn't want to go as far as the sub.

You know, I have to look around for this edition of the book that has the "dead" ending. Mine ends much the same way the movie does. (must be a later edition, because Pauline Reage did write a sequel, "Return to the Chateau" where "O" has evolved into a Domme.)


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RE: The story of O - 12/17/2007 5:38:25 PM   
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loved the book...wasn't thrilled with the movie.  i first learned of the book during a garage sale for a preschool i used to teach at.  my mother and i were sorting the books and i recognized the title. my mother looked at it and said, "great book" and then was quiet the rest of the sorting.  That night i asked her about what i had found in dad's lower drawer year's ago: the dog collar and leash...we hadn't owned a dog in years.  mom's response "some people enjoy their partners in different ways".

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RE: The story of O - 12/17/2007 5:52:09 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BloodLuna

it was a tv series that origionally came out in 1992.  It was released on dvd in luna believes . . . 2003.  10 episodes.  There is a five disk set currently on auction on ebay for around $26 (buy it now).  Thats where luna got her copy.  just type The Story of O in the search bar.  The actress playing O is Claudia Cepeda. 


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RE: The story of O - 12/17/2007 7:41:13 PM   
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quote:

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It's been several years since I've re-read the book, but from what I remember, "O's" owners weren't so much disgusted by her being used by others, but rather by the fact they couldn't find a trial to put her through that she didn't enjoy. The loaning out to others began as an expression of ownership "you can only give away what is truly yours," and ended up as an afront because of her ability to submit to it so well.

I think this is called being a "bottomless pit" type of submissive. And it can be intimidating as hell for a dominant that doesn't want to go as far as the sub.

You know, I have to look around for this edition of the book that has the "dead" ending. Mine ends much the same way the movie does. (must be a later edition, because Pauline Reage did write a sequel, "Return to the Chateau" where "O" has evolved into a Domme.)


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I didnt say O's owners were disgusted. I said the young model that Renee became smitten with but could not own looked at O with disgust.

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