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Slaves, Submissives & Dirty Girls - 12/19/2007 1:58:35 PM

caitlyn

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I enjoy the party side of all this, but the submission side, has often betrayed me. I've just never been able to get it to work out quite like it's supposed to.

Not long ago, a man I've been seeing and become quite close to, a very dominant man, was going away for a while. We had the chance to spend some time together before he left, to cuddle, to talk, and for a bit of play-time. In the part of the date weekend loosely termed "post fun time", he looked me in the eyes and said he cared about me too much to let me fight this battle with myself. He told me he has known many submissives, and a few slaves ... and that I was neither. He told me that he loved me, and respected me ... but that I would never fit in, because truth be told, I'm just a simple, dirty girl.

Labels ... to a point we all want one. I think being able to call myself a slave would be really cool. There are some slaves on here that I look up to. Submissive, Sub, even Subbie all sound so fun and in a strange sort of way, sophisticated ... you know, "I'm Cait, and I'm a Submissive!"

But ... "dirty girl ... now that's romantic. I'm not sure ice water, can ever be quite that cold ... except, it's true ... I guess.

Any other takers out there ... willing to throw off the very cool label, and just be what they are? Anyone care to have a discussion about how many dirty girls there are out there, that are actually hiding behind some label?

Peace ... and Merry Christmas!

P.S. No real point to this post ... it's just a vent. You have to love, or want to kill ... very smart men.

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RE: Slaves, Submissives & Dirty Girls - 12/19/2007 2:00:58 PM

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he is not the first to have told you that as you know cait.

well, no problem --- there are lotsa skanks out there that just want some backseat watusi........and they prey upon doms with their decietful label of submissive.

You are so not alone.

Happy Holidays Caitlyn!!!!!!!!

Ron

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RE: Slaves, Submissives & Dirty Girls - 12/19/2007 2:03:23 PM

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Damn....

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RE: Slaves, Submissives & Dirty Girls - 12/19/2007 2:03:36 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: caitlyn

I enjoy the party side of all this, but the submission side, has often betrayed me. I've just never been able to get it to work out quite like it's supposed to.

Not long ago, a man I've been seeing and become quite close to, a very dominant man, was going away for a while. We had the chance to spend some time together before he left, to cuddle, to talk, and for a bit of play-time. In the part of the date weekend loosely termed "post fun time", he looked me in the eyes and said he cared about me too much to let me fight this battle with myself. He told me he has known many submissives, and a few slaves ... and that I was neither. He told me that he loved me, and respected me ... but that I would never fit in, because truth be told, I'm just a simple, dirty girl.

Labels ... to a point we all want one. I think being able to call myself a slave would be really cool. There are some slaves on here that I look up to. Submissive, Sub, even Subbie all sound so fun and in a strange sort of way, sophisticated ... you know, "I'm Cait, and I'm a Submissive!"

But ... "dirty girl ... now that's romantic. I'm not sure ice water, can ever be quite that cold ... except, it's true ... I guess.

Any other takers out there ... willing to throw off the very cool label, and just be what they are? Anyone care to have a discussion about how many dirty girls there are out there, that are actually hiding behind some label?

Peace ... and Merry Christmas!

P.S. No real point to this post ... it's just a vent. You have to love, or want to kill ... very smart men.

Ahhh caitlyn, you really are not as alone in this as you think. There are quite a few 'submissives' out there who are not submissive at all; simply, as you put it...kinky and dirty. There is absolutly nothing wrong with that. In my mind, it says that you know what you want, how far you can go, what you are willing to compromise on, and what you are willing to fight for. It's called knowing your own mind.

I mean no disrespect to this young man, because obviously it sounds as if he DID care for you enough to end it before it got too far; however, I find his way of doing it lacking. He coudl have just told the truth...that the two of you were incompatible in every way except for dirty, kinky sex.

Just my two cents is all.

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RE: Slaves, Submissives & Dirty Girls - 12/19/2007 2:05:16 PM

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Now 'Dirty .Girl.' as a collarme option on the profile.
Thats gotta rock.

the.dark.

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RE: Slaves, Submissives & Dirty Girls - 12/19/2007 2:05:45 PM

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meta-sub, sub-lite, kinky, dirty, it doesn't matter, as long as it flows with your partner. That's how I've always felt about it. Don't tell me I'm slave-like or very submissive. What does that mean anyway? Nothing. It's only important if I'm in a relationship and he gets me.

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RE: Slaves, Submissives & Dirty Girls - 12/19/2007 2:08:26 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

Now 'Dirty .Girl.' as a collarme option on the profile.
Thats gotta rock.

the.dark.

LOL it would. I can just see all the profiles changing from submissive to Dirty Girl...of course, if they did that..we would have to start new threads about what we all define dirty girl as.

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RE: Slaves, Submissives & Dirty Girls - 12/19/2007 2:10:53 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: IrishMist

quote:

ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

Now 'Dirty .Girl.' as a collarme option on the profile.
Thats gotta rock.

the.dark.

LOL it would. I can just see all the profiles changing from submissive to Dirty Girl...of course, if they did that..we would have to start new threads about what we all define dirty girl as.

Noooooooooooooooooo.....
Does that mean we would get the 'DirtygirlsarebetterthanProperty' thread?

the.dark.

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RE: Slaves, Submissives & Dirty Girls - 12/19/2007 2:11:38 PM

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~chuckle~ If I had a dime for every time someone said "You're not a real submissive" (from the online Romeos here at CM) I'd have about $9.50, and from RT Doms ... err ... I guess I'd get nothing ... so I'd treat you to a latte at Panera and we could put the spare change in the salvation army bucket.

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RE: Slaves, Submissives & Dirty Girls - 12/19/2007 2:12:33 PM

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with a little fiddlefucksticking of Happy Boys and Girls by Aqua---and we have an anthem!!!!

Be happy...
Come on let's go get it on!
Be happy. Be happy...
Come on let's go get it on!
Be happy...
Everybody let's go have some fun

I don't want to waste my time on simple little things
I'd rather stay here all the night with nasty boys who sings
Come on let's go get it on, everybody let's go have some fun

I've got a feeling you could use a little smile,
Hoping you could stay there for just a little while
Making a lot of noise up there, throw your hands up in the air

I don't want to waste my time on simple little things
I'd rather stay here all the night with everyone who sings

Nasty boys and dirty girls, will be
We are the nasty boys and girls
Nasty boys and dirty girls, will be
So happy, yeah! so, so happy, yeah!

Nasty boys and dirty girls, will be
We are the nasty boys and girls
Nasty boys and dirty girls, will be
Oh yeah, so happy...

Try with an eagle it will make you look so nice
And if you start to warm, you can further break the ice
come on let's go get it on, everybody let's go have some fun

I've got a feeling you could use a little smile
Hoping you could stay there for just a little while
Making a lot of noise up there, throw your hands up in the air

I don't want to waste my time on simple little things
I'd rather stay here all the night with everyone who sings

Nasty boys and dirty girls, will be
We are the nasty boys and girls
Nasty boys and dirty girls, will be
So happy, yeah! so, so happy, yeah!

Nasty boys and dirty girls, will be
We are the nasty boys and girls
Nasty boys and dirty girls, will be
Oh yeah, so happy...

Young and old.
Be happy. Everyone... Be happy

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RE: Slaves, Submissives & Dirty Girls - 12/19/2007 2:14:01 PM

IrishMist

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quote:

Does that mean we would get the 'DirtygirlsarebetterthanProperty' thread?

Uh huh. Not to mention the
"I am dirtier than you"
"Dirtygirlsarebetterthansubmissivesandslavesbecausewearedirtier"
and
"Nothing beats a DirtyGirl"

of course, we would also have the

"He said I was a dirtygirl and I am not ready for that" threads.

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RE: Slaves, Submissives & Dirty Girls - 12/19/2007 2:14:56 PM

caitlyn

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Actually Irish, we didn't split ... he just split for Iraq for a bit. My apologies for not making that more clear.

His methods were crummy, but then again, I'm not sure there is a "good" way to say such things. I think it all works out, since I no longer have to pretend and call him "Master Scott", when all I really want to call him is "Do it Harder Scott!"

As an aside, I'm going to ask the owners here to add "Dirty Girl" or "Backseat Watusi" as options on the website. Maybe we can even have ... WIITWDGD.

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RE: Slaves, Submissives & Dirty Girls - 12/19/2007 2:15:10 PM

IrishMist

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LMFAO Ron

fiddlefucksticking

LOL

I love that

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RE: Slaves, Submissives & Dirty Girls - 12/19/2007 2:16:44 PM

IrishMist

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quote:

ORIGINAL: caitlyn

Actually Irish, we didn't split ... he just split for Iraq for a bit. My apologies for not making that more clear.

His methods were crummy, but then again, I'm not sure there is a "good" way to say such things. I think it all works out, since I no longer have to pretend and call him "Master Scott", when all I really want to call him is "Do it Harder Scott!"

As an aside, I'm going to ask the owners here to add "Dirty Girl" or "Backseat Watusi" as options on the website. Maybe we can even have ... WIITWDGD.

Well fiddlefuck. That's even better than...though not better about him going overseas

LOL, I like the backseat watusi one...I can see that as an option lmao

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RE: Slaves, Submissives & Dirty Girls - 12/19/2007 2:17:22 PM

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There is a problem with dirty girls?......damn it!! I keep missing the memos

Jeff

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RE: Slaves, Submissives & Dirty Girls - 12/19/2007 2:19:18 PM

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That's just weird and rude to say that somehow you aren't really into bdsm.

Maybe you are a bottom? That would be very cool.

you don't need to be submissive or a slave after all to be totally into BDSM. Lots of things under that umbrella that have nothing to do with DS after all.

Or maybe you just haven't found a good match DS wise? So what? Frankly I find someone who is not normally submissive who submits to me to be much hotter than someone who submits to a wider range of people.

Anyway what I'm saying is that you have a right to feel pissed and had I been in your place i'd be pisssed too.

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RE: Slaves, Submissives & Dirty Girls - 12/19/2007 2:25:34 PM

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See here Cait, there is nothing new under the sun---

The Orlons ---Wah Watusi---

Wah, wah-a Watusi
C'mon and take a chance and get-a with this dance
Wah, wah-a Watusi
Oh, baby, it's the dance made-a for romance (shoo-bop, shoo-bop, ahh)

Baby, baby, when you do The Twist
Never, never do you get yourself kissed
'cause you're always dancin' far apart
The Watusi, girl, is-a really smart

Wah-a, wah, wah-a Watusi
C'mon and take a chance and get-a with this dance (shoo-bop, shoo-bop, ahh)

Baby, baby, when you do The Fly
Your arms are wasted wavin' in the sky
Come on and hold me like a lover should
The Watusi makes you feel so good

Wah-a, wah, wah-a Watusi
Oh, baby, it's the dance made-a for romance
Yay!!

(shoo-bop, shoo-bop, ahh)

Baby, baby, that's the way it goes
Nothing happens when you Mash Potatoes
I just gotta fall in love with you
Watusi is the dance to do

Wah-a, wah, wah-a Watusi
C'mon and take a chance and get-a with this dance

Wah, wah-a Watusi
FADE

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RE: Slaves, Submissives & Dirty Girls - 12/19/2007 2:27:10 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Jeffff

There is a problem with dirty girls?......damn it!! I keep missing the memos

Jeff

LOL no Jeff. We are trying to determine which should be put on the front page as an option.

DirtyGirl or BackseatWatusi

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RE: Slaves, Submissives & Dirty Girls - 12/19/2007 2:30:11 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: batshalom

~chuckle~ If I had a dime for every time someone said "You're not a real submissive" (from the online Romeos here at CM) I'd have about $9.50, and from RT Doms ... err ... I guess I'd get nothing ... so I'd treat you to a latte at Panera and we could put the spare change in the salvation army bucket.

yep....cause the RT Dom's never come out from behind their keyboards cause they are too busy giving advice to the poor widdle subbies on the computer...

hey Ron...wanna go to karaoke?

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RE: Slaves, Submissives & Dirty Girls - 12/19/2007 2:32:36 PM

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Oh the shark babe; has such teeth dear.........

Bobby D Dom

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