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RE: Slaves, Submissives & Dirty Girls - 12/19/2007 3:49:34 PM   
sexyred1


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ORIGINAL: lronitulstahp


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Oh for the record, I would like to be known now and forever as the Most MetaDirtyKinkySlut on the entire site. 

where do we pick up the ballots?


At the collarme election hall. Jefff is my press secretary and will only accept witty ballots and mnottertail is seargent at arms. He wield a big fiddlefuckstick, so vote carefully.

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RE: Slaves, Submissives & Dirty Girls - 12/19/2007 3:51:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hey!  Pressuring people to vote for you is definitely not a twue sub's actions!

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RE: Slaves, Submissives & Dirty Girls - 12/19/2007 3:52:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: laurell3

duh Jeff, subblier than thou goes at the top of the list.....and switch is somewhere in the gutter.......


and what a nice place to be........sorry to all the uber subs and switches
apparently you don't count..:)

Jeff

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RE: Slaves, Submissives & Dirty Girls - 12/19/2007 3:52:57 PM   
lronitulstahp


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Status: offline 		Only problem is...i live in Florida, and we know how THAT might turn out!!!

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RE: Slaves, Submissives & Dirty Girls - 12/19/2007 3:53:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: laurell3

Hey!  Pressuring people to vote for you is definitely not a twue sub's actions!


Hey, it was self-elected position. And hell, I wanted to try switching for once.

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RE: Slaves, Submissives & Dirty Girls - 12/19/2007 3:54:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: lronitulstahp

Only problem is...i live in Florida, and we know how THAT might turn out!!!


Uh, oh...those chads can get stuck in the most annoying places...

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RE: Slaves, Submissives & Dirty Girls - 12/19/2007 3:56:34 PM   
lronitulstahp


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RE: Slaves, Submissives & Dirty Girls - 12/19/2007 3:57:00 PM   
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Is a dirty girl a sub, a slave, or a submissive?

If a Domme / Mistress comes in from the garden tracking mud on the floor her submissive / slave /house keeper so meticulously cleaned with his/her toothbrush, is she a dirty girl?

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RE: Slaves, Submissives & Dirty Girls - 12/19/2007 4:01:09 PM   
lronitulstahp


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If a Domme / Mistress comes in from the garden tracking mud on the floor her submissive / slave /house keeper so meticulously cleaned with his/her toothbrush, is she a dirty girl?
   think i just found my hard limit.....

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RE: Slaves, Submissives & Dirty Girls - 12/19/2007 4:02:20 PM   
Prinsexx


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Status: offline 		oh fuck  it i was so into being dirty i missed the entire thread............

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RE: Slaves, Submissives & Dirty Girls - 12/19/2007 4:02:48 PM   
aphrodite5


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Status: offline 		Maybe I missed something, somewhere. When did it become impossible to be a dirty submissive girl?

I'd be rather annoyed if someone told me "you're not submissive, you're just dirty." Or just anything. My interepersonal dynamic depends on the person(s) involved. Since when are haircuts or clothing choices the only things to allow control?

Oh well. If you actually prefer to be called a dirty girl, that's fine. And it sounds like it's working out for you, so that's excellent.

a.

PS -- Calling someone "Master ___" on a regular basis annoys the crap out of me. Your milage may vary.

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RE: Slaves, Submissives & Dirty Girls - 12/19/2007 4:05:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Sinergy


Is a dirty girl a sub, a slave, or a submissive?

If a Domme / Mistress comes in from the garden tracking mud on the floor her submissive / slave /house keeper so meticulously cleaned with his/her toothbrush, is she a dirty girl?

Sinergy



I am only dirty in a meta-physical way or sexually, never a dirty floor kinda way. Does that make me a bad sub?

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RE: Slaves, Submissives & Dirty Girls - 12/19/2007 4:10:00 PM   
Jeffff


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Status: offline 		well thats kinda the point. If sone one doesn't appreicieate you for wo ho you are.....your choices are change.or fuck em. In this case He made the call, which is fine. He could have been .....nicer about it but oh well. He knows what he, at least thinks he wants. She doesn't need to feel bad, thats all I am trying to say I guess

Jeff

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RE: Slaves, Submissives & Dirty Girls - 12/19/2007 4:21:16 PM   
barefootgal


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ORIGINAL: burningdesires47


[I'm kind of in a decision boat about a similar problem at the moment... I know I'm not a slave. I DEFINITELY don't want a dynamic that's constantly on, altho knowing me it would end up being on to some degree or another all the time anyway. I'm more into the kinky sex side of things, though I find myself getting more and more interested in less-sexual aspects of the BDSM play... so it's almost like the opposite problem, of thinking for so long that I was just a dirty girl, and now finding I'm more interested in being a subbie than I thought. Which has to do with the fact that I tried once before and wasn't ready, so the mental transition from dirty girl to subbie wasn't so difficult as a little surprising, being blindsided by the realization that I wanted it more than I thought I did.

It just takes a lot of soul searching. Call yourself whatever you want, a dirty girl (which BTW I think is hot ;) or bottom, or a sub who isn't interested in a 24/7 dynamic... as long as you and your partner(s) are clear about expectations, then you should be fine.


A serious moment in the middle of all the frivolity...

This post was a real aha moment for me. I am coming to a lot of the same conclusions about myself, but I haven't put all the pieces together as well as you have, Burning. If you've got any other insight into stuff lurking inside my head, let me know. It's way easier than having to figger it out myself!

< Message edited by barefootgal -- 12/19/2007 4:26:31 PM >

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RE: Slaves, Submissives & Dirty Girls - 12/19/2007 4:22:02 PM   
lronitulstahp


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Status: offline 		a bit confused...is that his slave registry number or actual phone number? Either way, does he cater waiter...big office party coming up.....

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RE: Slaves, Submissives & Dirty Girls - 12/19/2007 4:42:00 PM   
LadyChef


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Status: offline 		This is different! Be proud of who you know you are!

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RE: Slaves, Submissives & Dirty Girls - 12/19/2007 4:42:16 PM   
Kellendra


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Status: offline 		Personally always liked the word  chanteuse's.....always remember my grandmother calling some lady down the road a chanteusey floozy....I had no idea wtf it meant....but liked the sound of it.
A girl's gotta have something to aspire to afterall.
A box, is a box and a box,people often try and squeeze you into one...one size doesn't fit all and labels usually fall off.
But Hoo raayyy for dirty girls, half of us wouldn't be here if it weren't for those gals.
 
 

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RE: Slaves, Submissives & Dirty Girls - 12/19/2007 4:48:20 PM   
lighthearted


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Status: offline 		"dirty girl" is what I called myself before I entered the realm of bdsm.  I didn't know how to categorize the desires I felt...I only knew that what my sex drive and what I was interested wasn't exactly the norm and therefore...dirty.

after meeting my first dom...it became abundantly clear that I was at the very least, submissive.  as time has gone on and I've learned more about myself, I've found that at sorts of labels apply to me at any given moment.  there are some aspects of myself I consider very slave-like, I can be a total pain slut, I love the objectification of being owned property, but in all of this, I still considered myself to be that dirty girl...it's my interest in sex, the crazy, gotta have it, can't live without it, come here and give it to me thing that makes me feel that way.  it doesn't really have anything to do with my interest in D/s and M/s. 

the more time I spend on CM the more I realize how unimportant labels are to me...I don't need anyone's permission to call myself what I want to be called, or feel the way I feel.  I don't think anyone has the right to tell you what you'll never be, unless they have a crystal ball in very good working order.  the point of all this is, that trying to take our personality traits and shoehorn them neatly into a box in order to label that box one thing or another is only for the benefit of the person reading the label.  you know what you feel inside...if the person reading the label thinks it's wrong, then maybe they need to do a better job of looking inside. 

just my $.02

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RE: Slaves, Submissives & Dirty Girls - 12/19/2007 5:27:48 PM   
topcat


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Status: offline 		midear Caitlyn,
 
If you really want it to go this way, you are going to have to cross your feet- I only brought three nails. You are no different than at least ... <thinking counting on fingers>  65% (ish) of the women I know that present as submissive in the context of the scene.
 
Of course you buck in the traces. Consider that your backround may make for some strong reactions to your relationship needs. Sheesh. I have no idea where your sudden need to imolate yourself comes from- but if that's not a maso streak, I don't know what is.
 
I wouldn't worry so much about rejecting yourself for the stains that only you see, for punishing yourself for your own vulnerability. You know I respect you as an individual- do I ever play the age card? I think you are still growing into you, and that a part of that process, for anyone, is rejection and reaction and redefintion.
 
And I think you do a damn good job of being you.
 
Stay warm,
Lawrence

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RE: Slaves, Submissives & Dirty Girls - 12/19/2007 5:29:37 PM   
DesFIP


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ORIGINAL: laurell3

Hey!  Pressuring people to vote for you is definitely not a twue sub's actions!


Yes, offering bribes of chocolate is much more twue.

But as far as the op goes, nobody else can tell you if you're submissive or not. All they can say is that you aren't submissive to them. And that's fine.

Right now you haven't met anyone who inspires you to submit or dominate, so for right now you're a kinky bottom. But that doesn't mean you won't meet someone tomorrow, or next month or even in ten years who does inspire you.

Says a woman who is submissive to one, and gives short shrift to anyone who claims I'm not submissive because I don't fit their vision of a submissive. I fit his, and that's all that matters to me.

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