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RE: Are you ever scared to say "Merry Christmas?&q... - 12/25/2007 3:28:49 AM   
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If it offends anyone, so be it, I've never said it meaning disrespect and I'm going to continue saying it

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Merry Christmas

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RE: Are you ever scared to say "Merry Christmas?&q... - 12/25/2007 3:36:24 AM   
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I realize everyone is NOT a Christian nor does everyone celebrate Christmas, but why
ruin it for everyone?


I am not a Christian but i have no problem saying Merry Christmas....

Merry Christmas!!

...it's Christmas... have a merry one whatever your faith or lack thereof...


edited to add: it doesn't have any egg in it but i'v been drinking something that i think has nog in it...






To the OP: no, I'm never afraid to say Merry Christmas.

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RE: Are you ever scared to say "Merry Christmas?&q... - 12/25/2007 4:09:30 AM   
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i say Merry Christmas.....in fact i shall say it right now

Merry Christmas to all of you.....

if that offends you, then i can snarl a wicked BAH HUMBUG!



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RE: Are you ever scared to say "Merry Christmas?&q... - 12/25/2007 4:59:23 AM   
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I'm totally worn out with the PC stuff.  This country was founded on Christian religious freedoms. They wanted to worship as they pleased without the British royalty of the moment dictating whether they were going to be Catholic or Protestant or Cof E or whatever .  They could be whatever denomination they wanted.  That was one of the key factors in separation of church and state not having the Govt dictate what you practiced. 

Now it seems the govt dictates how we practice religion in that we can no longer display the symbols of Christian religion that surround our holidays in this country.  The US was not founded on Muslim, Hindu, Wiccan, or other religious freedoms.  It wasn't even a thought in the founder's minds.   Nothing in the Declaration of Independence or any other early document of the US refers to Allah, "the gods or godesses" or names any other diety other than "God." 

If those who have chosen to come to the US don't care for the way this country was set up they can kindly exit exactly the same way they entered. 

I'm not against freedom of religion for other religions but in the practice of that other religion don't keep me from practicing Christianity.  Set up your religious symbols on your holy or sacred days.   I won't be offended unless you insist on telling me I can't do the same thing.

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RE: Are you ever scared to say "Merry Christmas?&q... - 12/25/2007 5:24:05 AM   
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I got to love this PC junk. I am atheist and I say Merry Chistmas to anyone unless I know they are Jewish. If they say something about Kwanza I say something about a made up holiday. I'll just skip what I say if Ramadon comes up.
MERRY CHRISTMAS!!! I hope all everyone has a wonderful day.

POOP=people offended  by offended people


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RE: Are you ever scared to say "Merry Christmas?&q... - 12/25/2007 5:28:29 AM   
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ORIGINAL: machineman


I got to love this PC junk. I am atheist and I say Merry Chistmas to anyone unless I know they are Jewish. If they say something about Kwanza I say something about a made up holiday. I'll just skip what I say if Ramadon comes up.
MERRY CHRISTMAS!!! I hope all everyone has a wonderful day.

POP=people offended  by offended people


err, that wouldn`t be POP,that would be  POOP.

Marry Holidays,Happily POOP

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RE: Are you ever scared to say "Merry Christmas?&q... - 12/25/2007 6:16:26 AM   
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I'm totally worn out with the PC stuff. 
Soo happy fer ya...


This country was founded on Christian religious freedoms. 
Really?Is Jesus mentioned anywhere?Links please......

They wanted to worship as they pleased without the British royalty of the moment dictating whether they were going to be Catholic or Protestant or Cof E or whatever .

Actually,it was the Pilgrims, who left Europe to escape religious persecution.
The founding fathers split w/ England, over money,not religion.They crafted laws to keep government out of it,because they were cool,and smart.God bless them.

They could be whatever denomination they wanted.  That was one of the key factors in separation of church and state not having the Govt dictate what you practiced.

It was also, the other way around.They didn`t want church going  know-it-alls,getting involved in government,which had power over the average guy,regardless of faith. 

Now it seems the govt dictates how we practice religion in that we can no longer display the symbols of Christian religion that surround our holidays in this country.

Just on public property,which is owned,maintained and payed for by the average guy,regardless of faith.or with no faith at all. 



The US was not founded on Muslim, Hindu, Wiccan, or other religious freedoms.

I think you need to research the word "freedom"....

It wasn't even a thought in the founder's minds.   Nothing in the Declaration of Independence or any other early document of the church refers to Allah, "the gods or godesses" or names any other diety other than "God." 
other diety other than "God." 

  That makes it automatically ,a "Christian" god?Is that what you`re say`n?It doesn`t even say "God".It uses the term,"Creator".Care to explain why that is?

If those who have chosen to come to the US don't care for the way this country was set up they can kindly exit exactly the same way they entered. 

ooooohw! Aren`t we spunky!Who died and made you "God"?

I'm not against freedom of religion for other religions but in the practice of that other religion don't keep me from practicing Christianity.

You tell`m ,kid!


Set up your religious symbols on your holy or sacred days.  

 Thank you sooo much ,............for your open mindedness and tolerance!We need more knowledgeable folks like yourself,setting us straight.What were we thinking?!?!!!


I won't be offended unless you insist on telling me I can't do the same thing.
Thank you sooo much ,for that too.I wouldn`t want to offend you.<snicker>
 
Your grace and eloquence, speaks volums.The level of insight and depth of thought,is most impressive.
 
God keep you and bless you,fair lady.      ~Nameste~"I salute the God within you."
 
Allah Akbar and marry Kwansaa!


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RE: Are you ever scared to say "Merry Christmas?&q... - 12/25/2007 6:29:02 AM   
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I say Merry Christmas, and if someone gets offended that is their problem. With me it has nothing to do with relgion, but has everything to do with the holiday tradition I grew up with.

Yes the PC crap has gone way too far.

Merry Christmas to all!!!

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RE: Are you ever scared to say "Merry Christmas?&q... - 12/25/2007 7:02:42 AM   
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ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf

I say Merry Christmas, and if someone gets offended that is their problem. With me it has nothing to do with relgion, but has everything to do with the holiday tradition I grew up with.

Yes the PC crap has gone way too far.

Merry Christmas to all!!!


The PC argument is a bunch of crap.

The worst one of all is Bill O`Rielly,and his war on Christmas bullshit.

Trying to pit some sort of secrete "secularist" movement(normal people),against the poor oppressed people who want to say "Marry Christmas",or have it said to them,at Walmart and Target.

It was apparently, a huge problem,but he saved America and won the "War on Christmas", for us.Bless him.He declared victory the other day,against the "forces of darkness".omg,What a clown,he is.How is he on TV,and who are the fools watching him?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6Z6nspKddU&feature=related

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBUELp-9V8M

Personally,I would like people to just STFU,mind their own fuck`n business,and stop using religion to divide.

These jerks ,with some imagined authority,using religion as a political club,to beat on whoever`s around at the time.Claiming victim-hood,while all the while,making victims by the score.There`s nothing more dangerous than mixing religion and politics.

Happy HOLY-days,

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RE: Are you ever scared to say "Merry Christmas?&q... - 12/25/2007 7:15:03 AM   
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Well of course you can say whatever you want. But your comment about 'if someone gets offended that is their problem' if you say something to someone without being thoughtful and not caring about how someone might feel about it, than that is just plain rude and mean. For example...have you ever seen the type of person that says 'hi how are you doing?' and by the time you open your mouth to answer they are halfway down the hallway and are turning the corner not even caring to hear your answer or how you feel? That is exactly the same thing, don't just say something to say it, especially if you want to say something with good intentions, say it thoughtfully with regard to the other person you are saying it too. And if you don't have good intentions, like you said, you basically don't care about how someone feels about it if they get offended, than don't say it at all.

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RE: Are you ever scared to say "Merry Christmas?&q... - 12/25/2007 7:43:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Phin

I personaly saw a guy rage out over happy holidays. "You can tell me Merry Christmas or nothing at all" Me personally, if someone wished me a happy ________ even if there are a total of 7 people that believe that religion and it was the dumbest thing in the world to believe in, I would return the sentiment and know that the person just wished me a good day or whatever the timeframe was of that holiday.



And the reason why people are becoming afraid to say Merry Christmas, or Happy Holidays is because of the hate mongering jerks like owner59 brings up

quote:

ORIGINAL: owner59

The PC argument is a bunch of crap.

The worst one of all is Bill O`Rielly,and his war on Christmas bullshit.

Trying to pit some sort of secrete "secularist" movement(normal people),against the poor oppressed people who want to say "Marry Christmas",or have it said to them,at Walmart and Target.

It was apparently, a huge problem,but he saved America and won the "War on Christmas", for us.Bless him.He declared victory the other day,against the "forces of darkness".omg,What a clown,he is.How is he on TV,and who are the fools watching him?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6Z6nspKddU&feature=related

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBUELp-9V8M

Personally,I would like people to just STFU,mind their own fuck`n business,and stop using religion to divide.

These jerks ,with some imagined authority,using religion as a political club,to beat on whoever`s around at the time.Claiming victim-hood,while all the while,making victims by the score.There`s nothing more dangerous than mixing religion and politics.

Happy HOLY-days,


I think it made people resentful when they heard an employee wish them "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas". I often prefer to say "Happy Holidays" because New Years is right around the corner.. but it has crossed my mind that some Neanderthal may take offense to that... it is rather ironic that this thread is about being afraid to say "Merry Christmas" when it could more easily be about being afraid to say "Happy Holidays"....


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RE: Are you ever scared to say "Merry Christmas?&q... - 12/25/2007 7:45:00 AM   
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Merry Christmas... May you only know love and peace on this blessed day... the birth of our Lord...

i guess the answer would be no, i am not afraid...


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RE: Are you ever scared to say "Merry Christmas?&q... - 12/25/2007 8:01:35 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

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ORIGINAL: Phin

I personaly saw a guy rage out over happy holidays. "You can tell me Merry Christmas or nothing at all" Me personally, if someone wished me a happy ________ even if there are a total of 7 people that believe that religion and it was the dumbest thing in the world to believe in, I would return the sentiment and know that the person just wished me a good day or whatever the timeframe was of that holiday.



And the reason why people are becoming afraid to say Merry Christmas, or Happy Holidays is because of the hate mongering jerks like owner59 brings up

quote:

ORIGINAL: owner59

The PC argument is a bunch of crap.

The worst one of all is Bill O`Rielly,and his war on Christmas bullshit.

Trying to pit some sort of secrete "secularist" movement(normal people),against the poor oppressed people who want to say "Marry Christmas",or have it said to them,at Walmart and Target.

It was apparently, a huge problem,but he saved America and won the "War on Christmas", for us.Bless him.He declared victory the other day,against the "forces of darkness".omg,What a clown,he is.How is he on TV,and who are the fools watching him?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6Z6nspKddU&feature=related

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBUELp-9V8M

Personally,I would like people to just STFU,mind their own fuck`n business,and stop using religion to divide.

These jerks ,with some imagined authority,using religion as a political club,to beat on whoever`s around at the time.Claiming victim-hood,while all the while,making victims by the score.There`s nothing more dangerous than mixing religion and politics.

Happy HOLY-days,


I think it made people resentful when they heard an employee wish them "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas". I often prefer to say "Happy Holidays" because New Years is right around the corner.. but it has crossed my mind that some Neanderthal may take offense to that... it is rather ironic that this thread is about being afraid to say "Merry Christmas" when it could more easily be about being afraid to say "Happy Holidays"....



Good points, julia.

I would think that a greeting,no matter what form,would be taken happily and with grace.

To be offended,when someone tries to be thoughtful and friendly,is a ridiculous and phony.

After all, the word "holiday" comes from the words, "holy day(s)".What can be more affirmative and reverent,then that?


Marry Christmas,julia

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RE: Are you ever scared to say "Merry Christmas?&q... - 12/25/2007 8:11:36 AM   
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Happy Holy-Days Owner59

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RE: Are you ever scared to say "Merry Christmas?&q... - 12/25/2007 8:15:49 AM   
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A few years ago, I do remember a woman getting snarly because I had the audacity to say " Happy Holidays" to her.  I'm not afraid to wish a person "Merry Christmas", but what's wrong with being inclusive? They're all holidays....

I see people going a bit too far on both sides of the fence.

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RE: Are you ever scared to say "Merry Christmas?&q... - 12/25/2007 8:17:50 AM   
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Personaly I say Happy Holidays durring the season... I have many Jewish, Christian, Hindu, and African American friends who celibrate Kwanza... It fits the bill for every one no matter what they practice. Now on the actual day, or the day before 24th, 25th I do say Merry Christmas.. because well it *is* Christmas. When I send out cards I buy Hanukkah, Kwanza, funny, and religous Christmas cards. Every one gets the one that pertains to them. People who get offended by someone greeting them for the holidays in what ever way they chose to do it needs to get a freakin life. Some one is *actualy* being nice and taking time to greet them.. be happy about it. I hate being called Ma'am ( other then in the lifestyle mind you ) but I just smile and realise they were being polite and conciderate.

In some things there are many unthinking people who hurt others with thier verbage.. ( like straight folks saying fag... or any other slur.. if you are not of that group dont freakin call someone that name. You can't reclaim the name if you are standing on the outside. So sorry ) But to simply wish some one a Happy or Merry whatever.. just chill folks. It is a Christian Holiday. Christ should not be taken out of it. Just like Deidels and the Hallel prayer go with Hanukkah.

So Merry Christmas to you all on this wonderful day... and as I say to my kinky friends.. Hairy Sex Mouse... ( say it out loud..)

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RE: Are you ever scared to say "Merry Christmas?&q... - 12/25/2007 8:21:26 AM   
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Another thread where the mere mention of Christianity sends some people ballistic.  

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RE: Are you ever scared to say "Merry Christmas?&q... - 12/25/2007 8:21:41 AM   
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i remember working for IHoP and i would have to say either "Merry Christmas" or "Happy Holidays" to certain customers due to religious beliefs. Most of our customers who came to the restuarant on Christmas were either JWs or Muslims, so i didn't say anything just wishing them a "Happy New Year"



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RE: Are you ever scared to say "Merry Christmas?&q... - 12/25/2007 8:31:17 AM   
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As a Jew, I have re-introduced saying "Merry Christmas" at our hotel.  Why?  Because I have never met anyone who was offended by it, except those who wear their religion on their sleeve, and to those you what to say.

Then again, many people, who knew I was Jewish, asked me what I was doing for Christmas, and were shocked that I was going to sit at home and read dirty books.  So I just started telling people that I do the same on Christmas as they do on Hannukah.

Happy Holy Days, Collarme!


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RE: Are you ever scared to say "Merry Christmas?&q... - 12/25/2007 9:12:51 AM   
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As a Jew, I have re-introduced saying "Merry Christmas" at our hotel.  Why?  Because I have never met anyone who was offended by it, except those who wear their religion on their sleeve, and to those you what to say.

Then again, many people, who knew I was Jewish, asked me what I was doing for Christmas, and were shocked that I was going to sit at home and read dirty books.  So I just started telling people that I do the same on Christmas as they do on Hannukah.

Happy Holy Days, Collarme!


benji


Hey, I am going to sit and watch the porn my Daddy gave me... Happy Holy Days indeed!


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