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RE: Is it really submission? - 1/21/2008 4:17:18 PM

kallisto

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There has to be trust, respect, compatibility, and general feeling of wanting to be with that person to want to submit. Not necessarily because there is a "future", but because there is the "present".

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RE: Is it really submission? - 1/21/2008 5:38:34 PM

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I was able to get it to open when I deleted the [.] at the end of the link. It's a thread about how he wanted to continue to whore you out even though that was a hard limit of yours.

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ORIGINAL: parttimehotty

Hi Kalista07:
i'm unable to open the link that you supplied. i'd like to clear up any confusion i may have created. Please let me know what i said before that has sent you mixed signals.

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RE: Is it really submission? - 1/21/2008 5:50:11 PM

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the feeling of wanting to submit is always there, it is who i am
being able to submit to another man or Master if something were to happen to Master and me, well it would depend
there would have to be something there, i cant just be a submissive to anyone because i am a submissive, i just dont work that way

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RE: Is it really submission? - 1/21/2008 7:55:24 PM

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i call Him my "Trainer" because W/we've gone on so many rollercoaster rides w/my submissiveness, unable to let go of my vanilla temper at times, that it's not clear what my roll is at this time. i know He's watching/waiting to see how i do so at this time, i just refer to Him as my Trainer/Master (kinda like a training bra ;). i do have a strong urge to serve Him/make Him happy

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as far as your question...think about how you would feel being in a 'nilla relationship. For me, the thought of a relationship where there is no D/s element would seem like backpedaling and most likely bore me to tears. (just got a shiver thinking about the number of times i tried to get someone to "Dom" me... yuck!!!) Being a sub doesn't mean you deny yourself the right to be selective...but for me, it would be hard to keep the submissive part of myself dormant forever.

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RE: Is it really submission? - 1/22/2008 2:06:09 PM

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Ive always been submissive in most aspects of my life, i enjoy serving and delight in pleasing M'Lady. if i ever left M'Lady i don't think i would just run to the first Dominant that i found i would have to have some sort of connection to them, and my wife would have to approve as well. for me it would be like a divorce or death it would take me time to move on as i care deeply for my M'Lady.
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RE: Is it really submission? - 1/22/2008 6:04:59 PM

domahpet

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well, i was going to offer my view until i read the other thread about prositution.
are you still doing that for him? or are you with someone new?
maybe after i know that i can share something usefull with you on the other side

no judgement call from this girl, hit me up

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RE: Is it really submission? - 1/23/2008 6:46:41 AM

GingerLou

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if i don't feel emotionally 'safe',
i don't trust,
if I don't trust,
I don't submit.
i kick ass instead

sometimes i've jumped right in and others tip toed
both were disasterous

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RE: Is it really submission? - 1/23/2008 9:32:16 AM

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I am somewhat in the same camp as Beth here. It took me a little while to recognize it but submission is not something I actively choose to offer or not. It is simply how I relate to most things when I am being most myself. I wouldn't just do anything any random man off the street told me to do because "I am submissive and he is Dominant." The level with which my submissive nature comes out varies depending on the Dominant nature of the other person and the level of trust i have with them. But it often takes more control not to submit than to submit. This could be viewed as a fault or a sign of somone with very little self-esteem or self-reliance. I think at times in my life it certainly came from a place like that but now I see it simply as a part of my personality. I want to trust everyone I meet. I want to be able to be completely open and "myself" with everyone i meet. This obviously isn't possible so now I am more careful about who i trust and open up to. However, I'm not ashamed of the fact that if Master and I were to be parted I am pretty sure that once I felt ready to be in another relationship it would be with a Dominant man who wished to own me.

I also don't discount the possibility that this will change with time. I could see myself becoming so completely owned by someone that even after his death I am still his (as I believe ownedgirlie said.) But for now I am very much a slave learning to serve as best i can. Master and I talk about me becoming not just "His" slave but "a" slave, (something he hopes to signify by branding me one day.) This is not a concept that I see very many D/s or M/s couples embracing outside of the Gorean community but it is something that feels right for both of us and so I wanted to share our perspective as well.

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RE: Is it really submission? - 1/26/2008 6:04:51 PM

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It's my nature to be submissive but, only to the Man that i am in an intimate relationship with. Just because i am submissive, doesn't mean that i must submit to whomever happens to be available. If i happen to be in-between relationships, for whatever reason, my submissiveness doesn't cause me to go out searching for someone, anyone, to submit to. Just like my horniness wouldn't cause me to go out searching for someone, anyone, to have sex with. And, my loving nature wouldn't cause me to go out searching for someone, anyone, to love.

If there doesn't happen to be someone in my life, at any particular time, that i want to love, have sex with or submit to, my loving, sexual, submissive nature doesn't go away or diminish. i remain the same loving, sexual, submissive person i have always been but, i don't love, have sex with or submit to just anyone.

If my relationship with my Master were to end and i were to never meet another man who i wanted to love, have sex with or submit to, then i wouldn't but, my loving, sexual, submissive nature would still be there. And, if, at some point, another right person were to enter my life, i would be very happy to submit to him and love him and have sex with him.

For me, it's more about the who than the 'what'. As long as i am with the right 'who', He can do whatever He wants with me. But, even during the times in my life when the right 'who' wasn't in my life, the submissive, loving, sexual person that i am didn't change. i was just saving it for if and when the next right 'who' came along.

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RE: Is it really submission? - 1/26/2008 6:14:13 PM

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I do not have a submissive personality in most situations. Just try telling me what to do if I do not perceive you do have that authority. I may be polite about it and tell you no, or I may be a snarky bastard about it depending on the situation. For instance a friend of a friend in conversation told me I couldn't say a particular word. It wasn't a preference thing, she just didn't like the way it sounded. Needless to say she'll probably not be my friend any time soon since I snapped at her for daring to tell me what to do when she didn't have that authority. Now, a request that I choose a different phrase might have been met with more tact. With my Master I have my moments where I have to remind myself that he DOES have the authority to tell me what to do but I must admit it can be tough. I don't think I could submit to anyone else.

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RE: Is it really submission? - 1/26/2008 8:29:18 PM

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I love my master so much that if i lost him , i cannot fathom finding someone right away just to "submit " to them. I would have to take the time to grieve the end of our relationship and love ,before being any good to another or myself.

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