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What IS the Masters responsibilities - 8/23/2005 8:11:39 AM

whippedattitude

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iam curious to hear from the Masters what they feel their responsibilities to their sub/slaves/play partners are? How much of it starts/ends with a session, and how much and to what levels does it carry over to every day life? Do you have different levels with different partners, based on the amount of interaction you have with them?

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RE: What IS the Masters responsibilities - 8/23/2005 8:55:55 AM

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A persons responsibilities are to balance being true to themselves while maintaining a healthy relationship with the others in the relationship.

HOW that is done completely depends on the relationship. Some things dominants consider their responsibilities are things I am expected to be responsible for in my relationship and vice cersa. What specific "responsibilities" exist in any relationship needs to be decided on by the people involved and clearly communicated.

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RE: What IS the Masters responsibilities - 8/23/2005 4:26:40 PM

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if there are any Masters out there who feel that they can clearly define his responsibilities...outside of the fact we should be responsible for every aspect of our lives...let me know...simple example then I'll remain quite on the subject...you work outside the home...you have a houesbound submissive that has the responsibility of taking care of your home...you come home and nothings been done...beds still unmade...dishes still undone...cloths still unwashed...absolutly no work done at all...there's no excuse such as sickness or injury...is the submissive at fault..or is it yours...

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RE: What IS the Masters responsibilities - 8/23/2005 5:25:39 PM

OscarHargraves

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You said it right ES,
The responsibility of each person is determined by the enviroment and the people they interact with. In a Dom/Sub relationship, like a marriage, this is a fluid and changing thing and it's up to the individuals involved to 'define' it at any given time. They can also change it, cancel it, extend it or not as they see fit. What matters is that they both agree on it and make it binding on themselves.

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RE: What IS the Masters responsibilities - 8/23/2005 5:59:47 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: whippedattitude

iam curious to hear from the Masters what they feel their responsibilities to their sub/slaves/play partners are? How much of it starts/ends with a session, and how much and to what levels does it carry over to every day life? Do you have different levels with different partners, based on the amount of interaction you have with them?

We don't engage in sessions, per se, so I can't respond from that perspective. My responsibility to my girl, toy, can best be summed up as the responsibility to remain true to who and what I am. While the amount of authority I exercise within the dynamic is specific to my relationship with her, honestly representing myself is my ultimate responsibility in any relationship. Other than that responsibility, the day-to-day interaction is pretty basic. Together we sit down and review the tasks that need to be accomplished and we work together to prioritize them efficiently. I provide structure,guidance, instruction, clarification and reinforcement. Together we are responsible for establishing an environment which satisfies our individual needs by clearly and honestly communicating.
Timothy

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RE: What IS the Masters responsibilities - 8/23/2005 10:00:14 PM

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The one responsibility that I feel is necessary for a master is to make sure everthing has been done correctly.

No matter who mows the lawn, washes the dishes, drives the car, and handles the bills, It's up to the Master to make sure it was done right. My pet is very smart. She's better at computer stuff such as online banking than I am. Every time I try to hook up modems, logging on web sites, or even trying to check my self out of Wal Mart, it all goes to hell on me. When I moved in with her, she already had the cable, electricity, and such taken care of. All I do is keep my head over her shoulder to see what all is being done. It's not a matter of me trusting her but to understand and know what's going on. It like being a manager of a place.

When it comes to responsibility, sometimes it can go with Gender Roles as well. I enjoy cooking but I hate washing dishes. So I do the cooking and pet does the cleaning. We both walk the dog together. I especially walk with her at night because I feel the responsibility to protect her as much as possible. Most females will have a guy with them for protection. When I go out, I'll have a female with me to perhaps keep me out of trouble or keep the wrong type of person from hitting on me.

The news reported that a serial rapist in the Dallas FortWorth area is out on the prowl rapeing women at gun point in apartment parking lots. If I ever get my hands on the SOB I'm going to rip his balls off and make him swallow them. I now have to get up at 6am M - F every morning to walk my pet out to the car and watch her leave.

Any how you can't be a Dominant if you can't dominate yourself. That's the big responsibilty for the Master. You have to push/discipline yourself and encourage/discipline the sub to do whatever and such n such.

As for who the acctual finanical provider is, that's a different topic all together. I only consider that the master should be the one that keeps the environment stable and something that all parties envolved would want to come back to.

That pretty much sums up my thoughts on this issue. If there is any thing that anyone here would like to discuss with me more in detail, just send me a message on my CM profile.

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RE: What IS the Masters responsibilities - 8/24/2005 9:45:00 AM

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quote:

curious to hear from the Masters what they feel their responsibilities to their sub/slaves/play partners are?

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Master's Responsibilities, this Master anyway...

To have as much self discipline as they expect from their slave.

To be consistent.

To enforce the rules and implement discipline.

To be clear with expectations.

To communicate clearly to the understanding of the slave all decisions effecting the slave.

To live up to the commitment they made when they agreed to accept a slave.

To allow and encourage emotional, philosophical, and intellectual growth of their slave.

To admit to mistakes when they occur.

To laugh and have fun as much as possible.

To confirm and reinforce trust regularly.

To allow opportunity for regular dialog on any subject.

To insure the slave is confident in their position in life and in their position within the relationship.

To be as proud of the slave as she/he is proud of him/her.

To treat her/him as the most valuable possession he/she owns.

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RE: What IS the Masters responsibilities - 8/24/2005 11:55:04 AM

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Merc & Beth, took the words out of my mouth.
Fastlane copies and paste, so he can answer first next time this same question is posed. LOL..

Good answer Mercnbeth

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RE: What IS the Masters responsibilities - 8/24/2005 7:32:35 PM

LordODiscipline

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Responsibilites are moralities that are imparted upon a person by themselves.

I sincerely dislike the lists that I see posted out there (responsibilities, creeds, oaths, and the ilk) because invariably there is something in there that:
a. Does not apply to me and the relational dynamic I involve myself in
b. Is simply silly and unrealistic from any human perspective (ie: 'never to lie', 'always to protect the submissive', bleech - - - - ).

It is easy to state that "the responsibilty of a dominant is what ever he devides that they are" - or - "... that are negotiated"... but, the inability to quantify every single instance is always a failure waiting to happen - and, an expectation waiting to be dashed.

Better to simply state that we will treat our partners within the context of the relationship, and, as good morals will allow.

~J

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RE: What IS the Masters responsibilities - 8/25/2005 5:48:26 PM

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I am with you on this one... A Master attempting to list all his responsibilites is a like a Lawyer in putting every clause imaginable into the contract to protect his client. sooner or later something comes along that just doesn't fit into the rules/responsibilites and it will have to be added or dealt with in some way. No matter what I think my responsibilites are at any given moment, I can trust that they are subject to change in the future as my relationshiip grows and evolves

KoM

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ORIGINAL: MstrHellsFury

if there are any Masters out there who feel that they can clearly define his responsibilities...outside of the fact we should be responsible for every aspect of our lives...let me know...simple example then I'll remain quite on the subject...you work outside the home...you have a houesbound submissive that has the responsibility of taking care of your home...you come home and nothings been done...beds still unmade...dishes still undone...cloths still unwashed...absolutly no work done at all...there's no excuse such as sickness or injury...is the submissive at fault..or is it yours...

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RE: What IS the Masters responsibilities - 8/25/2005 8:04:15 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: KnightofMists
I am with you on this one... A Master attempting to list all his responsibilites is a like a Lawyer in putting every clause imaginable into the contract to protect his client. sooner or later something comes along that just doesn't fit into the rules/responsibilites and it will have to be added or dealt with in some way. No matter what I think my responsibilites are at any given moment, I can trust that they are subject to change in the future as my relationshiip grows and evolves

KoM

ok how about a few basic responsibilities? i dont think anyone was asking for the end all and be all of a list... perhaps just what do YOU think are YOUR responsibilities(in general) within the context your current or future relationship

tedi

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RE: What IS the Masters responsibilities - 8/26/2005 4:26:20 PM

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Another aspect to A Master's Responsibilites.. is they are relationship specific. Each relationship is not only defined by the needs and wants being met, but also the roles and responsibilities that are negotiated or evolve as the relationship matures. My responsibilites are going to be unique within my relationships as compared to others. My beliefs and ideals of the D/s relationship is unique and is shared by equally unique person or persons. My slaves are in my life for many reasons... one of which is the uniques of the responsiblities that we each have formed and grow in our relationship..... so the basics... well that is a question of looking into oneself and the significant person in ones life.

KoM

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ORIGINAL: tedibare

quote:

ORIGINAL: KnightofMists
I am with you on this one... A Master attempting to list all his responsibilites is a like a Lawyer in putting every clause imaginable into the contract to protect his client. sooner or later something comes along that just doesn't fit into the rules/responsibilites and it will have to be added or dealt with in some way. No matter what I think my responsibilites are at any given moment, I can trust that they are subject to change in the future as my relationshiip grows and evolves

KoM

ok how about a few basic responsibilities? i dont think anyone was asking for the end all and be all of a list... perhaps just what do YOU think are YOUR responsibilities(in general) within the context your current or future relationship

tedi

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RE: What IS the Masters responsibilities - 8/27/2005 12:26:32 AM

Zensee

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*ahem

What ARE the Master's responsibilities?

Since my girl's first language is German, one of My responsiblilties is correcting her English.

Z.

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RE: What IS the Masters responsibilities - 8/28/2005 10:01:34 AM

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I'm still new at this, so take my opinion with the requisite grain of salt. My relationship with miss extends beyond play sessions, but I don't exercise strict protocols, both because I don't generally enjoy them and because I take pleasure in her creativity and initiative; as a consequence, I'm hesitant to codify my responsibilities as her Master. In a more general way, I would say that I feel a responsibility to provide miss with love, support, guidance, and a sense of security. I'm responsible for being attentive to miss and her service, and for creating a framework in which we can live with one another in the way that pleases both of us. I've also come to feel the responsibility to rectify my own will; it's important to me to be the sort of person who genuinely deserves the reverence and submission that miss provides. I don't always succeed in this, but I've found that the attempt almost always makes me a better person than I was.

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RE: What IS the Masters responsibilities - 8/28/2005 3:35:12 PM

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i completely agree

quote:

Master's Responsibilities, this Master anyway...

To have as much self discipline as they expect from their slave.

To be consistent.

To enforce the rules and implement discipline.

To be clear with expectations.

To communicate clearly to the understanding of the slave all decisions effecting the slave.

To live up to the commitment they made when they agreed to accept a slave.

To allow and encourage emotional, philosophical, and intellectual growth of their slave.

To admit to mistakes when they occur.

To laugh and have fun as much as possible.

To confirm and reinforce trust regularly.

To allow opportunity for regular dialog on any subject.

To insure the slave is confident in their position in life and in their position within the relationship.

To be as proud of the slave as she/he is proud of him/her.

To treat her/him as the most valuable possession he/she owns.

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RE: What IS the Masters responsibilities - 8/28/2005 6:10:24 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

quote:

curious to hear from the Masters what they feel their responsibilities to their sub/slaves/play partners are?
\

Master's Responsibilities, this Master anyway...

To have as much self discipline as they expect from their slave.

To be consistent.

To enforce the rules and implement discipline.

To be clear with expectations.

To communicate clearly to the understanding of the slave all decisions effecting the slave.

To live up to the commitment they made when they agreed to accept a slave.

To allow and encourage emotional, philosophical, and intellectual growth of their slave.

To admit to mistakes when they occur.

To laugh and have fun as much as possible.

To confirm and reinforce trust regularly.

To allow opportunity for regular dialog on any subject.

To insure the slave is confident in their position in life and in their position within the relationship.

To be as proud of the slave as she/he is proud of him/her.

To treat her/him as the most valuable possession he/she owns.

Wow as a sub I hope one day to find a Master who feels the same way. To me this seams like a good place to start again one needs to modify to there own circumstances but is a very good starting point.

aurora

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RE: What IS the Masters responsibilities - 9/4/2005 7:16:19 AM

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quote:

Master's Responsibilities, this Master anyway...

To have as much self discipline as they expect from their slave.

To be consistent.

To enforce the rules and implement discipline.

To be clear with expectations.

To communicate clearly to the understanding of the slave all decisions effecting the slave.

To live up to the commitment they made when they agreed to accept a slave.

To allow and encourage emotional, philosophical, and intellectual growth of their slave.

To admit to mistakes when they occur.

To laugh and have fun as much as possible.

To confirm and reinforce trust regularly.

To allow opportunity for regular dialog on any subject.

To insure the slave is confident in their position in life and in their position within the relationship.

To be as proud of the slave as she/he is proud of him/her.

To treat her/him as the most valuable possession he/she owns.

The only thing I could possibly add is safety. I feel it is the Master/Dom's responsibility to ensure the safety of the Sub during play.

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RE: What IS the Masters responsibilities - 9/4/2005 9:15:10 AM

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Good posts and I agree with most and more. As for me my responsibilites encompass everything. If she fails as a slave then I have failed as a Master, if she fails as a lover then I fail as a lover, and if she fails as a partner in life then I have failed also. As a couple, our lives are interwoven to such a degree, hence the saying we have over here, 'your better half'.

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RE: What IS the Masters responsibilities - 9/4/2005 10:18:55 AM

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That's the same way we look at things. We are responsible for the safety and well being of our subs, whatever that entails.

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RE: What IS the Masters responsibilities - 9/10/2005 12:48:40 PM

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For as Doms go, i dont know. For as Masters go A Master responsiblity is to take care of a slaves needs. Specifically needs. you may WANT to eat.. but it is prolly not a need at that time.

And also not to break his toy. It is his repsonbility, to keep his toys in working order.

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