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The other side of the Rape Fantasy - 1/8/2008 10:05:22 PM

slavegirljoy

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Much has been said about the fact that one of the most common fantasies for women is the one of 'forced sex' or, being raped. Of course, it's well-known that rape isn't 'about sex' but, fantasizing about rape certainly is. Naturally, fantasizing about being raped, doesn't mean that someone actually wants to be raped. After all, the rape fantasy is happening in the controlled and safe environment of the fantasizer's imagination. But, there are some who do want their fantasy to go beyond the confines of their imagination and want to actually experience it within the "safety" of real life 'rape play'.

What i'm wondering about is, just how common is it for men to fantasize about rape and how common is it for women to fantasize about raping, either a man or another woman.

So, my question is this, "Men, do you ever fantasize about":

1. raping a woman? If so, how violent is the rape? Does she like it or does it matter?
2. being raped by a woman?
3. being raped by a man? (even if you are straight)
4. any other rape-related scenario that i haven't listed?

And, "Women, do you ever fantasize about":

1. raping a man? If so, how violent is the rape? Does he like it or does it matter?
2. raping a woman? (even if you are straight)
3. any other rape-related scenario that i haven't listed, where you are the rapist?

Also, has anyone actually played-out a rape fantasy in real life? If so, how did it go? Was it what you expected and wanted it to be? Or, did you regret it? Was it a disappointment or too 'real' or did it go terribly wrong? Was it set-up so that you didn't know when or where or who, just that it would happen? Did you use a "start word" to get it started?

Thank you for reading and responding to my post. Also, i sincerely hope that reading this discussion doesn't cause any rape victims to suffer any emotional pain.

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RE: The other side of the Rape Fantasy - 1/8/2008 10:09:56 PM

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I love rape fantasies and scenarios. I never raped anyone or had a fantasy of raping someone, unless you count that I can empathize with the person doing the raping from the power perspective.

I started acting out rape fantasies in college with my boyfriend, very detailed ones where we went to out of the way motels, he broke in, I was sleeping, knife in hand, bondage, etc. We planned it out perfectly. My other scenarios sometimes were surprises.

It went on from there my entire adult life and had varying degrees of fun and intensity. I like the idea of being forced so it works for me. The best times were during scenes with my past Dom; I never knew what would happen and in a BDSM rape scene, that was way better than my college vanilla rape scenes.

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RE: The other side of the Rape Fantasy - 1/8/2008 10:10:21 PM

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I have known men who fantasized about it and I most definitely have fantasized about it myself.

I've been play raped often and for me it's like most other types of scenes- sometimes it goes amazing and sometimes it doesn't work out at all.

Start word? No, either they had planned it as a surprise or it was completely spontaneous.

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RE: The other side of the Rape Fantasy - 1/8/2008 10:13:08 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: slavegirljoy

And, "Women, do you ever fantasize about":

1. raping a man? If so, how violent is the rape? Does he like it or does it matter?

No.

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2. raping a woman? (even if you are straight)

Yes, though not often.

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3. any other rape-related scenario that i haven't listed, where you are the rapist?

No.

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Also, has anyone actually played-out a rape fantasy in real life? If so, how did it go? Was it what you expected and wanted it to be? Or, did you regret it? Was it a disappointment or too 'real' or did it go terribly wrong? Was it set-up so that you didn't know when or where or who, just that it would happen? Did you use a "start word" to get it started?

Yes. It was very interesting and it was the only time I've ever been scared of Valyraen. I had to remind myself that this was the man who loves me when I found myself wishing he was there. I knew that it was going to happen on a particular night but I didn't know when it would start. We've decided not to make it so real that he breaks into the house - he simply comes up from behind on a night when I know it's going to happen and throws a blanket over my head.

It was very intense as he flogged me and said, among other things, that he was going to kill me. When it was over, I could only cling to him. It drained both of us but it was incredibly erotic and I look forward to doing it again.

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RE: The other side of the Rape Fantasy - 1/8/2008 10:24:12 PM

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Thank you, to the women who have responded so far. Your answers have been very interesting and insightful. Since all three of you said that you have experienced rape play, i'm wondering whether you feel that, if you were to be attacked by a rapist, would you be better able to handle the situation because of your rape play experience? Of course, i know that no one knows how they will react to a situation until they are actually in that situation. But, do you feel that you might be better prepared for such an event, if it were to happen? Does the thought of being raped (not in fantasy or in play but, in an actual attack) frighten you more, less or, just the same, as it did before you experienced rape play? Thanks again.

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RE: The other side of the Rape Fantasy - 1/8/2008 10:39:11 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: slavegirljoy

Thank you, to the women who have responded so far. Your answers have been very interesting and insightful. Since all three of you said that you have experienced rape play, i'm wondering whether you feel that, if you were to be attacked by a rapist, would you be better able to handle the situation because of your rape play experience?

I'm not sure I can say no strongly enough.

The reason that we have decided, so far anyway, to have me be aware of a general time frame of when the rape play will happen is because if I, for any reason, thought I was actually being raped I would try to stab, gouge out eyes, break knees, ribs and rip genitals to bits of ribbon. The fighting in rape play is very different from what I would do if actually being raped. I'm certainly not about to knee my owner between the legs during rape play!

I would hate for a woman to think she had somehow prepared herself for an actual rape because of her rape play experiences. I also encourage any woman to take several self-defense classes over the course of her life.

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Of course, i know that no one knows how they will react to a situation until they are actually in that situation. But, do you feel that you might be better prepared for such an event, if it were to happen? Does the thought of being raped (not in fantasy or in play but, in an actual attack) frighten you more, less or, just the same, as it did before you experienced rape play? Thanks again.

I really don't think it's changed my level of fright regarding actual rape. Perhaps made me more aware of how important it is to keep self-defense skills sharp and ready.

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RE: The other side of the Rape Fantasy - 1/8/2008 10:44:43 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: slavegirljoy
So, my question is this, "Men, do you ever fantasize about":

1. raping a woman? If so, how violent is the rape? Does she like it or does it matter?

1. Yes. Across the board in violence, her enjoyment is irrelevant. My favorite simple one involves luring a female cop down a darkened alley in the slums, overpowering her, then chaining her facing a wall with her own handcuffs to one of those fire escape ladders, then after I'm done with her, leaving a sign outside the alley pointing to her, so the neighborhood toughs can come have some fun...

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2. being raped by a woman?

No. They have come close, though only in a wholly non-violent context.

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3. being raped by a man? (even if you are straight)

No.

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4. any other rape-related scenario that i haven't listed?

Don't know how you would do that without violating the TOS. Except by having more than one person delivering/receiving.

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Also, has anyone actually played-out a rape fantasy in real life?

Haven't had the opportunity.

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RE: The other side of the Rape Fantasy - 1/8/2008 10:46:36 PM

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Why yes I do. Thank you for asking.

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Ever fantasize about being over powered and taken by an attractive strong virile intruder?

Ever wonder what it would be like to in the middle of a conversation to be slowly fondled while trying to ignore it and then being pushed back and entered?

Dreamed about what it would be like to taken unaware and to struggle but only to be over powered and ridden hard?

Arms pinned back by the wrists and thighs splayed open by an intruders knees awaiting something massive and pulsating to penetrate?

The anticipation followed by the taking and then being ridden to climax as your body betrays you?

Perhaps you left your door unlocked and you were in the shower.

Or you fell asleep nude on your bed face down.

Or you answered a knock at the door .

Let's talk about it. Nothing will happen without your consent but it will happen in a safe, sane consentual enviroment if you wish.

Over and over if you wish.

Do you wish?

Do you desire?

Do you dare?

Thank you.

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RE: The other side of the Rape Fantasy - 1/8/2008 10:48:54 PM

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most of my fem/dom fantasys and agood portion of my actual submissive activities have involved forced bisexual rape

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RE: The other side of the Rape Fantasy - 1/8/2008 10:49:37 PM

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RE: The other side of the Rape Fantasy - 1/8/2008 10:51:12 PM

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We can all read your profile if we're interested in it, MrRapePlay; you don't need to paste the whole goddamned thing right here in the forums.

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RE: The other side of the Rape Fantasy - 1/8/2008 11:08:29 PM

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My answer is yes I do want to be captured and raped or whatever they want to do to me. Do I fantasize about raping a woman, NO unlees it is their fantasy. I do not believe in violating women as they are the supreme beings. So the only rape scene I would ever have part in is me being raped or ravaged.

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RE: The other side of the Rape Fantasy - 1/8/2008 11:11:41 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: slavegirljoy

So, my question is this, "Men, do you ever fantasize about":

quote:

1. raping a woman? If so, how violent is the rape? Does she like it or does it matter?

Not really. Well, occasionally I'd think about fun things I could do to my (now ex) girlfriend, but not as a power type thing.

quote:

2. being raped by a woman?

Heck yeah! Obviously in reality I wouldn't want to get hurt, or get a disease, or whatever, but oh wow does the idea of a woman raping me turn me on. I'd LOVE to get the chance to role play that to some extent. Not sure how I'd react if it were actually happening for 100% real though. I've never really fantasized about a guy doing it though.

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RE: The other side of the Rape Fantasy - 1/8/2008 11:38:01 PM

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Yes, Yes, and YESSSSSS

I fantasize about ALL of it, but my fantasies are all about consensual play.   I like the idea of raping a woman who wants me to do it to her, I like the idea of a woman who I am close to raping me, I like the idea of directing others or having others directed to do it.

HOWEVER, I am not at all into the non-consensual.   To me, this is just an extension of BDSM. I view this as my MOST switchey view of BDSM as I can quite easily and quite naturally slide into either side of the role......when it is consensual.

I have numerous fantasies of this type of play, but they are all seated in the comfort of it being with a dear friend and consensual partner.   When it becomes truely forced and terrifying instead of a bit scarey, it crosses the line.   I like playing with the line, but I don't like ignoring it and true rape is wayyyyyyy past anyone's line.

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RE: The other side of the Rape Fantasy - 1/8/2008 11:42:54 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: slavegirljoy

Much has been said about the fact that one of the most common fantasies for women is the one of 'forced sex' or, being raped. Of course, it's well-known that rape isn't 'about sex' but, fantasizing about rape certainly is. Naturally, fantasizing about being raped, doesn't mean that someone actually wants to be raped. After all, the rape fantasy is happening in the controlled and safe environment of the fantasizer's imagination. But, there are some who do want their fantasy to go beyond the confines of their imagination and want to actually experience it within the "safety" of real life 'rape play'.

What i'm wondering about is, just how common is it for men to fantasize about rape and how common is it for women to fantasize about raping, either a man or another woman.

So, my question is this, "Men, do you ever fantasize about":

1. raping a woman? If so, how violent is the rape? Does she like it or does it matter?
2. being raped by a woman?
3. being raped by a man? (even if you are straight)
4. any other rape-related scenario that i haven't listed?

And, "Women, do you ever fantasize about":

1. raping a man? If so, how violent is the rape? Does he like it or does it matter?
No never
2. raping a woman? (even if you are straight)
No again... not my bag.
3. any other rape-related scenario that i haven't listed, where you are the rapist?
Nope.

Also, has anyone actually played-out a rape fantasy in real life? If so, how did it go? Was it what you expected and wanted it to be? Or, did you regret it? Was it a disappointment or too 'real' or did it go terribly wrong? Was it set-up so that you didn't know when or where or who, just that it would happen? Did you use a "start word" to get it started?

Thank you for reading and responding to my post. Also, i sincerely hope that reading this discussion doesn't cause any rape victims to suffer any emotional pain.

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RE: The other side of the Rape Fantasy - 1/9/2008 12:14:19 AM

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I have fantisized about rape play quite a bit. I would never do a non consentual rape. But does she have to enjoy it? nope. The play is not about her immediate enjoyment.

The fantasy of being raped by a woman has been much less often, but it is still there. I would definately participate for the right woman.

I have never been fantisized about being raped by a man, or raping a man.

One for the "other" column is a fantasy about a gang rape where several of us use a woman for what we want for a period of hours. she would remain in bondage and blindfolded, and during the time, we would "visit" her often. she would have no idea who or how she was going to be used. Of course there would be a safeword in place to end the whole scene and every man there would know it.

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RE: The other side of the Rape Fantasy - 1/9/2008 12:38:22 AM

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1. raping a woman? If so, how violent is the rape? Does she like it or does it matter?
Of course.
2. being raped by a woman?
Nope.
3. being raped by a man? (even if you are straight)
Never.
4. any other rape-related scenario that i haven't listed?
Slaves.

As for me, it isn't a rape fantasy so much as it's a no-holds-barred do-what-you-want-with-her desire. I get along best with the women who like to be manhandled in the bedroom and that's just what I do. It's more about not apologizing for being a man while I'm ravenously enjoying her womanhood than it is about rape per se.

As for the "other" rape-related fantasy ... having my own harem to do with as I please whether they like it or not would be rather nice! :)

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RE: The other side of the Rape Fantasy - 1/9/2008 1:36:42 AM

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Rape and forced sex scenes! I Love 'em.   Now in terms of how violent they are, that all depends upon the scene setup and who at the time.   Does she put up a good fight? Does she go furian on me or not?  All depends upon the Energy and power exchange the occurs during the scene itself.

Personally, I only rape the willing. Not an activity I jump into right away with anybody though. Because I literally assume or play an intense role of being an evil or twisted rapist. It's a bit of an intense mindfuck, call it a live performance, doing the same thing as an actor would do.

Personal, I enjoy playing (acting out) Physco rapist roles. It's sort of like stepping inside another personality for a moment in time. Again, much like how actors do. This is the best was to describe it.   This is not something I do with somebody who does not know me.   Cause they just mind actually believe it was all for real, you know. LOL... I suppose it would be intense for a somebody who did not know me though, and perhaps make it seem all the more real.   But no thank you, to the misunderstanding and drama that could evol out of it.

I've acted out some violent rape scenes, and I've also done the Physco Caught a play pet type of scenes that are sensual yet twisted.. sort of a Hanibal Falls in love with it's prey thing.

I've also pretended to be a Demonically possesed person, You know "I'm the Devil" and I've come to rape you and claim you.   Added spin, of Daddy/daughter play where I claim somebody as the "Devils Daughter".   Daddy Devil... is an intense role.

I have also done Silent Rapist wearing a Mask, never saying a word. Very Hands one and communicate with hand signals.

Anyways, it's not always violent, but one thing for certain is that it's twisted. At least for Rape scenes.   Forced Sex might be a little different, a bit of a Game.  Such as teacher and bratty Student. Basically roles where the sub/slave acts up or out and get's put in her place.   This is the best way to describe it. Making threats, acting out blackmail and whatnot.

OK, in terms of being Raped by a woman. Ummmmmm... that might be interesting. I might be game for trying it out. Certainly would be a challenge for me mentally being a Dom. Cause I really don't like being tied up and all. If anything it would be a Great Mental reality check and experience.   You know intense of a DOM being forced to not be in control.   I have a slight maso streak anyways... Ummmmm... interesting thoughts to think about.   I'd have to say, I'd try it once for the hell of it.   I'd either Hate it the whole experience or enjoy it. would be a mindfuck to go through.

Being raped by a man, Hell No!....

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RE: The other side of the Rape Fantasy - 1/9/2008 1:52:23 AM

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I'm a very energetic lover, but I'm too much of a submissive lover to really make a fantasy rape scene intense. It would end up with me asking what she'd want me to do to her. LOL

Now being raped by a woman...OH, HELL YEAH!!! That is probably my biggest fantasy I have with Mistress. Let me tell you, it is rough, it is violent, and She is merciless in my fantasies. She tells me that She will be even better and more intense than my wildest fantasies. Oh, geez! ***Drooling at the thought*** I won't go into detail for fear the mods may censor me later. Let's just say this...afterwards, I really, REALLY want to fear Mistress. That's how intense I hope it is!

I had an experience where I was "gang-raped" by eight, strap-on weilding dommes at a fetish party and it was one of the hottest scenes I've ever experienced in my 10-plus years. They were all strangers to me, but they were all friends with a domme friend of mine (who arranged the gangbang). The only concern was the size of the strap-ons because they knew I was still delicate back there. After that, there was no mercy. My ass and mouth were so sore afterwards...it was great!

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RE: The other side of the Rape Fantasy - 1/9/2008 2:04:39 AM

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Hi

i asked Master to rape me in a scene to help me with two past (way past) traumas. All i can say is that He was more phased afterwards than i was. i actually loved it, totally different to my real-life situations (and to my delicious shame i had a very powerful orgasm), and i can't wait to do it again. It deepened the level of trust between us that was already very strong.

As far as the other questions; no i could never even in play rape anyone, be it man or woman. Being slave the dynamic would be all wrong to begin with, but i think i could not be on that side of the equation while i am still healing my past...

Gabrielle x

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