BitaTruble
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ORIGINAL: Shadowkeeper I started on that quest when I was 16. By the age of 19 it was all clear to me. Women in general are submissive, yes. I think you're confusing being nurturing with being submissive. Many women are nurturing. Although Kinsey's results could never be duplicated, even a 10% number means that 'most' women are not submissive. So, in general, women are not submissive. quote:
Regardless if a woman is a seven eleven cashier or the president of the USA. Women have the ability to lead if they need to on many fronts. However when it comes to a relationship, no matter how powerful a woman is, she needs a man who would allow her to feel her fragility as a woman. I have no idea where you got that idea. Today's woman, generally, feels empowered by her feminity, not fragile because of it. I won't get into lesbianism or dominant women but they are also a portion of the population and shouldn't be discounted. They certainly don't need a man allowing them to be fragile women. quote:
While women in the west are hammered into a mold of fighting against men as they grow up. Resulting in them feeling lost and confused, since the society's standards they grew up in goes completely against their nature. I don't know these lost women of whom you speak but if this is all true, then why have women gained more in terms of power and self actualization in the last hundred years? For thousands of years, women have been oppressed with little options in life. It's only fairly recently in terms of human history that options were open and the last hundred years have seen woman, as a whole, spread their wings and take flight. It's not society that has allowed this .. it's the taste of freedom that women have embraced and now, having tasted it, refuse to give it up. If it's so natural to be submissive and to base our end all be all on the male population, why would any woman have chosen a different path unless she were being true to her actual nature instead of a nature which has been dictated for her since humans evolved? quote:
The key is to give the women the choice to submit in the manner they so choose, according to thier compatibility with the man they choose to submit to. Not just according to rules and regulations of their culture. With this, I disagree completely. The key is for you to understand that some woman will submit and some won't. We don't need permission to be true to ourselves. quote:
In truth, essentially women hold all the power, men are the guardians and rightful owners of that power. However, it is up to the men whether they choose to abuse that power or nourish it. That's not a truth. In fact, the problem you're going to face is there are no universal truths when it comes to humans. The population is too diversified, the options available to all genders can't, now, be taken away. Some women are submissive and some are not. Some women are nurturing, some are not. Some women weild power better than any man ever could and some women don't. Some women will fall to their knees before any powerful man, some women will never fall to their knees for anyone. Amazingly, some men fit into each of those sentences above. Go figure. Celeste
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"Oh, so it's just like Rock, paper, scissors." He laughed. "You are the wisest woman I know."
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