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RE: Protocals....do you enjoy? - 1/13/2008 10:35:29 AM   
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My goal is to establish effective communication without verbal communication.  We are training and learning to watch for non-verbal communication signals.


What a wonderful goal.  :)




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RE: Protocals....do you enjoy? - 1/13/2008 10:36:33 AM   
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I can imagine the response. I like those subtile gestures.
The result of the training which you give, sure will make others jalous.


I think the proper word would be Envious not jealous.

But this leads me to consider "Why" does a person(s) do their specific protocals.  I sometimes think that individuals put the cart before the horse with regards to protocals.  There seems to be the thought process for some that protocals elevate and improve the M/s or D/s dynamic.  For some relationships this might be the case.  But it is not because they are doing the protocals prefectly or even because they enjoy them.  I believe it is becaue their given relationship has a deepr foundation and the protocals are more an expression of what is much deeper between the individuals in the relationship.  To me it is a difference of where the focus is.  Those that have a desire to express what is within their relationship will tend to be much more effective in their protocals that those that are trying to aspire to some external reward, affirmation or recognition.

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RE: Protocals....do you enjoy? - 1/13/2008 10:39:20 AM   
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I can imagine the response. I like those subtile gestures.
The result of the training which you give, sure will make others jalous.


I think the proper word would be Envious not jealous.

But this leads me to consider "Why" does a person(s) do their specific protocals.  I sometimes think that individuals put the cart before the horse with regards to protocals.  There seems to be the thought process for some that protocals elevate and improve the M/s or D/s dynamic.  For some relationships this might be the case.  But it is not because they are doing the protocals prefectly or even because they enjoy them.  I believe it is becaue their given relationship has a deepr foundation and the protocals are more an expression of what is much deeper between the individuals in the relationship.  To me it is a difference of where the focus is.  Those that have a desire to express what is within their relationship will tend to be much more effective in their protocals that those that are trying to aspire to some external reward, affirmation or recognition.


I had to reread that a view times. You mean it is an extension of the relation. A tool to express submission?

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RE: Protocals....do you enjoy? - 1/13/2008 10:41:43 AM   
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I had to reread that a view times. You mean it is an extension of the relation. A tool to express submission?



A tool to express the relationship to the relationship.  Which included all aspect of it.. Dominance, Submission, humor, intellect, passion, love, everything you see in the relationship ...

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RE: Protocals....do you enjoy? - 1/13/2008 10:50:46 AM   
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But this leads me to consider "Why" does a person(s) do their specific protocals.  I sometimes think that individuals put the cart before the horse with regards to protocals.  There seems to be the thought process for some that protocals elevate and improve the M/s or D/s dynamic.  For some relationships this might be the case.  But it is not because they are doing the protocals prefectly or even because they enjoy them.  I believe it is becaue their given relationship has a deepr foundation and the protocals are more an expression of what is much deeper between the individuals in the relationship.  To me it is a difference of where the focus is.  Those that have a desire to express what is within their relationship will tend to be much more effective in their protocals that those that are trying to aspire to some external reward, affirmation or recognition.


I think for me, I enjoy protocal because it is the act of pleasing my Dominant in the way he enjoys. I actually think there are two reasons... one is wanting to please the other, 2nd reason is the feeling of being dominated/controlled.  Doing things, both on my own, and being told is gratifying and both are from the heart. Making him happy, makes me happy.


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RE: Protocals....do you enjoy? - 1/13/2008 11:46:48 AM   
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A tool to express the relationship to the relationship. Which included all aspect of it.. Dominance, Submission, humor, intellect, passion, love, everything you see in the relationship ...


Do you and the girls consider these actions to be protocals?

Just curious because there are things I do daily because it makes Sir's life a little easier, such as: preparing the coffee at night, setting His clothes out for work when running late, since He is currently walking to and from work; making sure His robe is just coming out a warm dryer (on cold nights), handing Him a drink (the drink depends on the day) or running a warm bath.

Personally I hadn't considered these things to be protocals, just random(or daily) acts of love and appreciation.

Saya

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RE: Protocals....do you enjoy? - 1/13/2008 1:56:20 PM   
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A tool to express the relationship to the relationship. Which included all aspect of it.. Dominance, Submission, humor, intellect, passion, love, everything you see in the relationship ...


Do you and the girls consider these actions to be protocals?

Just curious because there are things I do daily because it makes Sir's life a little easier, such as: preparing the coffee at night, setting His clothes out for work when running late, since He is currently walking to and from work; making sure His robe is just coming out a warm dryer (on cold nights), handing Him a drink (the drink depends on the day) or running a warm bath.

Personally I hadn't considered these things to be protocals, just random(or daily) acts of love and appreciation.

Saya



He was explaining the use of the gestures (which are part of their protocols) and what they mean for them. It wasn't about making the coffee itself.

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RE: Protocals....do you enjoy? - 1/13/2008 2:44:19 PM   
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Dominates, what are some protocals you enjoy seeing your submissive do, if you also do not mind sharing?
  


I have only three, very simple protocols:
1. My submissive will be barefoot during play
2. She will address me as "Sir" during play; any other time my name works fine
3. If she wishes to ask a question, she will first ask permission to do so

Everything else, we can negotiate...and will.

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RE: Protocals....do you enjoy? - 1/13/2008 4:37:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		For me it is also the simple things, Sir, sitting at his feet as he watches football, his kisses on my forehead, making sure to anticipate what his choice of meal is… just seeing the little twinkle in his eye when I do something small right is as pleasing if not more than when he grins as my flesh becomes red from the thrash of the flogger.

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RE: Protocals....do you enjoy? - 1/13/2008 5:02:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		Being a sadistic fucker, I really love protocols.

One of the really fun things about protocols is that if someone can't seem to remember previously agreed upon / implemented ones, you can demote them for a bit to give them a set they can handle more easily.

When my slave was behaving very poorly (as far as remembering her protocols), I told her she was getting a new set of protocols and would be expected to act consistently. Since she was acting like a dog, she would communicate only by saying "woof" once for yes, twice for no. She would pee outside (in the rain no less) wearing nothing but her collar. She walked only on all fours and had to lay curled up on a rug in front of the fireplace. Once she established she could handle dog protocols with diligence, I re-instituted her more lady-like sex slave protocols one by one.

But, you don't have to take my word for how effective (and fun this is): my slave's account can be read here: http://www.kinkycrafts.info/gorgeous-blog/gblog.php?id=4537704513901631609

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RE: Protocals....do you enjoy? - 1/13/2008 5:37:31 PM   
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Do you and the girls consider these actions to be protocals?

Just curious because there are things I do daily because it makes Sir's life a little easier, such as: preparing the coffee at night, setting His clothes out for work when running late, since He is currently walking to and from work; making sure His robe is just coming out a warm dryer (on cold nights), handing Him a drink (the drink depends on the day) or running a warm bath.

Personally I hadn't considered these things to be protocals, just random(or daily) acts of love and appreciation.

Saya



What you describe are alot of acts of service.. but acts of service can incorporate a protocal to them.

For example... one of the acts of service is for my girls to get me drinks from time to time.  But the protocal is how they are to do it.  When they serve me a drink, it is balance on the flat of their hand balance with their thumb which is hidden from my view.  The handle if one is towards me.  The balance the glass or cup until I decide to take it.

Sevice is getting the me the drink the Protocal is how they will serve me the drink.  For many their is no specific manner to which acts of service is accomplished and for some thier is a specific manner to which acts of service is done.  Another Act of service would be doing the laundry.  The protocal would be how my shirts are very specifically hung in the closet. 

Acts of service are lovely thing within a D/s dynamic and many services my girls do not have any specific protocal.  In fact, they do many acts of service in a manner that they enjoy.  My girls do manicures and pedicures for me.  I enjoy this service but make no decisions or establish no protocals on how they are to do it.  I just sit back and enjoy the pampering and they take enjoyment of doing the service.

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RE: Protocals....do you enjoy? - 1/13/2008 6:02:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		i enjoy them but, do not currently have any with my current.  Would luv to add them in but, i've come to terms with the whole that's not my decision to make sector......

i'll have to read up on this subject, cause it's one of those topics that i just cant stay away from!

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RE: Protocals....do you enjoy? - 1/13/2008 6:32:14 PM   
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How about a little of both?  Surely there are some things that you would enjoy as the norm.  Perhaps having your coffee/tea ready each morning for you?  Taking your shoes off for you each evening and slipping on more comfortible house shoes? Fixing you a refreshing drink after you come home from a hard day's work?  Perhaps having a warm towel handed to you after you climb out of the shower? Yes, of course it means much more coming from the heart, but the heart is where it comes from in the first place or she/he would not be doing these little things for you in the first place. For the submissive, it is romantic either way.  :)


I don't consider those protocols... it's what I've always done for the man in my life, BDSM or nilla.  It's what I do to show I care, and it's not planned (I don't think, "I will do this to show him I care"), it just *is*.

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When im topping someone and they use my real name, its over. I cant even start again, its basically ruined the moment.


That made me smile.  This is the only place online that I am Cali, and I keep that separate from the work-related stuff I do online, where I use my real first name.  Anybody can use my real name... but calling me Cali puts me in a completely different mindspace. 

Oh, and by the way geisha, I don't need any warm validation.  My id is all nice and toasty warm as it is.

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RE: Protocals....do you enjoy? - 1/13/2008 6:38:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		See, that's why I'm such a barbarian. I grew up on a ranch out in western North Dakota. I didn't have anyone to teach me these here protocols. I just thought you were supposed to take the woman you wanted. My mother used to get angry and make me take them home. I bought hand and ankle cuffs because it was faster to put on if they squirmed and tried to get away. Spanking ... I just love the look and feel of a pretty butt lying across my lap. I just always found that if you warm up a ladies bottom, you got a better ride.
It's really demoralizing to find out I've been doing it all wrong. All those ladies must have been lying to me.
What's a poor country boy to do?

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RE: Protocals....do you enjoy? - 1/13/2008 6:39:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		i'm very much a newbie here, but are protocols typically considered to be rituals? are rituals almost always some kind of protocol? i saw mention of rituals earlier and have never been very clear on what people mean by it in this context.. thx

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RE: Protocals....do you enjoy? - 1/13/2008 8:03:43 PM   
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Kinda like the baseball ones? In what situations do you use them?



They are used in all situations when one of the following things needs to be communicated:  (the first two are used by him and the others are used by Alandra and me)

Get him a drink (though we are allowed to use this in play to ask for a drink)
Get ready to leave
May I give information
May I ask a question
May I express an opinion
May I be excused

They are signals that were made up by him years ago and are used unless we are given the instruction to speak freely. 

edited to add, not nearly as obvious as the sports signals.  Only one hand is needed and it is in a very discreet position so that he can see it out of the corner of his eye.  Most people do not even see that we are doing it.

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RE: Protocals....do you enjoy? - 1/13/2008 9:46:30 PM   
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My goal is to establish effective communication without verbal communication.  We are training and learning to watch for non-verbal communication signals.

KoM,
I have always admired you and the way that you have trained your girls. This is just yet another reason why I have respect for you. Your girls are both lovely and very well spoken on the boards here. It is a direct reflection on your training. I love the non-verbal commands idea. I may incorporate that into my re-training of pup. Thank you for sharing this with us.

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RE: Protocals....do you enjoy? - 1/13/2008 9:58:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		For myself I have found that the use of hand comand protocols without any verbal a great way to stay in touch with my submissive when we are out and about. He is constantly aware of my presence and is ready to respond to any command given - it also prevents me having to yell what I want if we are someplace noisy (I hate yelling). He knows with only one small movement of my hand exactly what I expect and want of him.

These hand gestures commands were trained early on in our relationship as a building block and to establish that power exchange mentality that is an important aspect of any D/s relationship. I still believe the simple things tend to work the best when it comes to creating a power exchange relationship.

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RE: Protocals....do you enjoy? - 1/14/2008 12:47:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		One that comes to mind..i kiss the collar and then rest my head between her breasts while she fastens the collar...Tightly.

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RE: Protocals....do you enjoy? - 1/14/2008 1:36:14 AM   
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One that comes to mind..i kiss the collar and then rest my head between her breasts while she fastens the collar...Tightly.


that is very nice too, indeed.

I had a friend, a Master. that could steer his alpha slave almost with his eyes and little head movements.
That made then a great impression on me 

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