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RE: What attracts U/u to a BBW or any sub/slave - 1/17/2008 10:23:14 PM   
MissMagnolia


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Oh fucking hell.

No matter who you are, what your size, what your weight, what your height, SOMEONE in this world is going to think you are a corker, sexy as all hell and the best thing on the planet.

Those who don't, well who gives a flying fuck about them?

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RE: What attracts U/u to a BBW or any sub/slave - 1/17/2008 10:33:55 PM   
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To me the words bbw means big breasted woman, so yep I am a bbw, and nope it's not cause I am f at. I was a 34c in 5th grade, and I was your average skinny person. I'm now a 48 DDD and I am 25.
Now would I say I was a bbw just cause I was fat, nope.

Either way Who really cares. Attraction is what it is, weather your fat, or ugly, or bald, or have a tiny penis, or can bark like a seal.

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RE: What attracts U/u to a BBW or any sub/slave - 1/17/2008 11:01:09 PM   
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I dunno hun, barking like a seal is pretty fucking hot to most of us!!!

Isn't it?

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RE: What attracts U/u to a BBW or any sub/slave - 1/17/2008 11:29:44 PM   
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Daddy loves me as i am.  why should i give two rat's behinds about what anyone else thinks?

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RE: What attracts U/u to a BBW or any sub/slave - 1/18/2008 12:48:06 AM   
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Intelligent, articulate, open, willing, sense of humour, generous of heart, honest, industrious, curious, imaginative, clean, polite- and I'm a sucker for eyes, they are the windows of the soul after all.  Oh, and sane is good too.

How important are looks?  Not all that.  At the risk of sounding trite,  people that are pleasant, amusing, interesting to be in the company of do become attractive, beautiful/handsome, sexy to me. 
If you've ever watched the movie "Shallow Hal" ....

For some people physical type is a higher priority in what attracts them.  So what?  We don't get hyped up when a D wants an s, a Sadist wants a maso.  Some adore those that are feminine others masculine and so on.   Some of us even have a preference for one gender or another - imagine that!  No reason to be threatened or hatin' if we aren't some ones cup-o-tea.  We are for some one else.   But most important of all is being right with yourself. You are stuck with you for the rest of your life - everyone else has a choice. If you can't accept and love yourself you're really screwed.  

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RE: What attracts U/u to a BBW or any sub/slave - 1/18/2008 5:53:21 AM   
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P.S. I gather from these boards that a few of you American women are averse to receiving oral..............that can't happen.


i for one don't like receiving oral. 


to answer your thought, OP, Daddy loves big, breasted black women however what attracted Him to me was my love for the classics (Dean Martin, Frank Sinatra, Ella, etc) to Funk/Soul music, conversation, intelligence, inner and outer beauty, etc. the same attracted my SO to me


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RE: What attracts U/u to a BBW or any sub/slave - 1/18/2008 6:08:48 AM   
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OMG...i LOVE that....yes....yes....yes.....apparently the truth does piss some people off....me?....call me fat...go ahead...say it...You know what?...its TRUE!!!....am I going to wither and die....no....if it bothered me, I guess I'd change it wouldn't I?



Ok. Your fat. That's what you feel describes you and it's good thing it works for you.

I'm not about to judge someone for thinking they are beautiful and using the term BBW when so many boney chicks use the term "slender" or "nubile". It's about what you think suits you and the only thing about the discussion that annoys me is the fact that it gets entirely focused on one side of the weight issue.

Now, for the OP's question, Valyraen has been with both and much prefers women around my weight. I don't personally use the term BBW simply because it doesn't mean much to me.

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RE: What attracts U/u to a BBW or any sub/slave - 1/18/2008 9:05:21 AM   
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Now, can we maybe talk about how ugly (physically and personality-wise) some thin ppl are?


Not trying to be antagonistic but there is there a term like SSC (Small,Sexy,Chick) or TBW (Thin,Beautiful Woman)?......If there was then people would be pissed or at the very least not quite impressed

There are ugly and beautiful on both ends of the scale...and for those of us in the middle somewhere too....Alot can be made up for or destroyed by personality....and like sexyred1 said, CONFIDENCE is the biggest HOT thing of all.



For the record, I agree wholeheartedly with sexyred. She said it best and though I haven't yet read the rest of the thread, I think the original question was put to rest by her post on confidence. I can't tell you how many men and women in my opinion, are walking around, trying to convince themselves and the world that they're submissive when what it really is is a lack of self-confidence.

But as to your first sentence (?), why should anyone be pissed at an acronym? That IS all BBW is, after all. Now, if some thin chick wants to use SSC to describe themselves, that's fine by me - although someone is bound to confuse that with Safe, Sane, Consensual...so maybe TBW would be the safer bet.


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RE: What attracts U/u to a BBW or any sub/slave - 1/18/2008 9:09:14 AM   
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AZ sweetie? You forgot to tell her to pack the crime scene tape.

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Actually, that tape is a myth...it would contaminate the crime scene. At least, that's what Gil said...

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RE: What attracts U/u to a BBW or any sub/slave - 1/18/2008 9:25:14 AM   
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It's just amazing how many, many times this subject continually comes up. AMAZING! Just goes to show how incredibly obsessed we are with this subject. It's so been said a million times over. No one person is qualified to define what beauty is for all of us. Each individual decides for themselves.

Now, can we maybe talk about how ugly (physically and personality-wise) some thin ppl are? Or is there just no interest in beating that dead horse?


MNN,

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I've been average sized, normal sized, too thin and now I'm larger then average (using the "statistical" yardstick that gets plastered all over the internet that states that the average American woman is @ a size 14).

I've noticed in this size bracket that there are many woman who feel that they are inferior to their thinner counter parts because of their size.  When one internalizes this inferiority it chips at their self esteem so many woman feel they have something to overcome that the smaller sized women don't.

I get into discussions with my best friend often because she sees her size in a different context then her brown, short hair or other physical attributes, she can understand a man not preferring her because she's white or because she has brown hair, but she feels far more rejected when a man doesn't prefer her body type.  It is the chip on her shoulders and I believe it directly manifests itself in her personality as it does with other women.

I don't think that my personality has changed with my body and I've never felt overlooked no matter what size I was.  I've always felt that there are men out there that will enjoy my body, the whole different storkes philosophy.  Maybe it's because I haven't given in to the media/cultural hype and I haven't allowed myself to feel defective because I've got more cushion now that I don't seem to have the same issues as the best friend, or maybe I am being just as rejected and I'm too thick to notice, eh who knows.

Anyway-- this was a convoluted way of addressing your statement.  I think it comes up so often because there are women who do need to hear, contrary to what the media/television/society (grandmothers apparently are the worst at telling their granddaughters that they will find "Mr. Right" if they just loose weight and become pretty), that there are men who appreciate them, that they don't have to give up hope of finding companionship, love, sex, et al.  In short, they appreciate hearing others tell them that they are of value just like their skinny sisters.

And, as an afterthought, I've seemed to turn into a spokes woman for "skinny women have insecurities and issues and get rejected to" when talking to the best friend or others.  There is a myth that thin women just don't have any problems.

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RE: What attracts U/u to a BBW or any sub/slave - 1/18/2008 9:39:26 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MistressNoName

It's just amazing how many, many times this subject continually comes up. AMAZING! Just goes to show how incredibly obsessed we are with this subject. It's so been said a million times over. No one person is qualified to define what beauty is for all of us. Each individual decides for themselves.

Now, can we maybe talk about how ugly (physically and personality-wise) some thin ppl are? Or is there just no interest in beating that dead horse?


MNN,

BBW Extraordinaire



It never ceases to amaze me how many females continute to get pissed off by this topic. Does the truth hurt?




OMG...i LOVE that....yes....yes....yes.....apparently the truth does piss some people off....me?....call me fat...go ahead...say it...You know what?...its TRUE!!!....am I going to wither and die....no....if it bothered me, I guess I'd change it wouldn't I?



Again, I have to laugh! The idea that being called fat should bother anyone... When I was 9 years old it bothered me. Now, I'm too damned old and fat to give a shit who wants to call me names. I refer to myself as a Fat Chick. I refer to myself as a Big and Beautiful Woman and I abbreviate that as BBW - for brevity (sorry for being redundant). I also call myself and identify myself in other ways...I call myself Bi, I call myself Dominant and sometimes Dominant Switch. I call myself African American and I abbreviate that AA. I call myself MNN and sometimes, MsP - I call myself a Proud Leather Woman and I own the clout to pull all of that off.

Again, I'm amazed how often this topic comes up. But sexyred called it out for what it is. The Op's original question was about herself. Anytime anyone starts a thread, it's about what they bring to the table. And anytime anyone brings up a fat-bashing thread, (which was not the OP's original intent and this is not) it's about themselves in some way, shape or form. If someone doesn't like the term BBW, that's their own personal issue, opinion, whatever. It's got nothing to do with me or you or anyone else. And it doesn't give anyone the right to even suggest that someone might or might not be qualified to use the term to describe herself.

I'm free enough to define me for ME. You go ahead and define you for YOU. But don't assume there's some secret TRUTH I'm running away from. I don't buy into that CC (read, "ca-ca").


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RE: What attracts U/u to a BBW or any sub/slave - 1/18/2008 10:02:04 AM   
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will somebody just please tie me gag me and beat and play with me for a few days female with bilateral breath sounds and a pulse, blood coursing through her veins experience a plus .deviant a bonus !hows is that for descriptive ?too desperate chuckles ...


Only if you wear that outfit I saw you in luv... and whicker for me...

*winks*

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RE: What attracts U/u to a BBW or any sub/slave - 1/18/2008 10:10:13 AM   
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There is a myth that thin women just don't have any problems.


OmegaG, thanks for stating this. I think one of the reasons why I am so amazed with this topic coming up time and again is exactly because there does seem to be this myth that this society perpetuates - that thin women have no confidence issues of their own. I think we all know the reality, but it's hardly ever dealt with. And these fat threads just perpetuate this false idea that somehow fat (naturally) = ugly (which) = unworthiness and that the opposite must then be true, that is that thin (naturally) = beautiful (which) = worthiness. And this is a false ideal that is drilled into our collective consciousness from day one. What truly amazes me is how fixed and rigid many people's mindsets are, and I'm not talking about personal preference but that some people seem to not be able to wrap their brains around the concept of beauty being in the eye of the beholder. That notwithstanding whatever you may prefer and what you may identify as beauty, some other people simply may not agree with you...and that's okay. But I think that attests to the power of that myth.

So, getting back to your statement. We all know it's simply not true that thin women have no problems. And going back to what sexyred said, one of the major issues we all face, regardless of gender, size, ethnicity, religion, whatever, too many people simply lack confidence. And I think, if we women took it upon ourselves, made a promise to ourselves, a commitment to ourselves to develop and nurture within a greater sense of confidence - and if we did this relentlessly, I think we would see a drastic decrease in threads like this.


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RE: What attracts U/u to a BBW or any sub/slave - 1/18/2008 10:23:03 AM   
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Oh geez the BBW and "fat" threads will never die. I think on average one must pop up every week.

I am a big girl... Some call me an Amazon. I am 5'10 and a size 18. Does it bother me? Nope.. I am losing weight to help with my back, and joint problems.. and to help in the sports I do. But not to fit someone elses Idea of Beauty. I personaly like the term Amazon or Voluptuous.

I don't give a fig about what the concept of ideal body type should be. I have a hour glass figure, and I am well porportioned even at the size I am.

I take good care of myself with pedicures, manicures, I get my hair done.. I wear fashionable well fitting clothes with nice shoes and handbags. I am always smiling, and outgoing. I have confidance to spare.

I don't think it matters what size a woman is really.. but how she carries herself, and how she takes care of herself.

I have seen mousey and slobbish skinny girls, and big girls I wouldnt give the time of day... and I have seen well put together people I would. It is in the personality and all over package.

If you are a size 4 and think you are a fat slob, and simply miserable... and bitchy about it.. you are just as bad as the woman who is a size 32 who thinks she is a fat slob, and slimply miserable... and bitchy about it. I see no differance in the two women. I would not wish to deal with either of them. It is all about body image and how *you feel* about yourself. It comes out in all you do.

Lets not forget the men who have that lack of confidance and who are just sad sacks.. or asshats because of it.. and lack basic hygeine.... it is the *very same* as the BBW aspects... but only in realtion to males. Why does this never come up once a week? Hmmmm.... new thread any one?

Gwyn

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RE: What attracts U/u to a BBW or any sub/slave - 1/18/2008 10:24:32 AM   
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There is a myth that thin women just don't have any problems.


OmegaG, thanks for stating this. I think one of the reasons why I am so amazed with this topic coming up time and again is exactly because there does seem to be this myth that this society perpetuates - that thin women have no confidence issues of their own. I think we all know the reality, but it's hardly ever dealt with. And these fat threads just perpetuate this false idea that somehow fat (naturally) = ugly (which) = unworthiness and that the opposite must then be true, that is that thin (naturally) = beautiful (which) = worthiness. And this is a false ideal that is drilled into our collective consciousness from day one. What truly amazes me is how fixed and rigid many people's mindsets are, and I'm not talking about personal preference but that some people seem to not be able to wrap their brains around the concept of beauty being in the eye of the beholder. That notwithstanding whatever you may prefer and what you may identify as beauty, some other people simply may not agree with you...and that's okay. But I think that attests to the power of that myth.

So, getting back to your statement. We all know it's simply not true that thin women have no problems. And going back to what sexyred said, one of the major issues we all face, regardless of gender, size, ethnicity, religion, whatever, too many people simply lack confidence. And I think, if we women took it upon ourselves, made a promise to ourselves, a commitment to ourselves to develop and nurture within a greater sense of confidence - and if we did this relentlessly, I think we would see a drastic decrease in threads like this.


MNN


Some of us just seem to have an internal voice that keeps us knowing our worth, some, no matter what size and shape are seriously lacking in the ability to love themselves regardless of outside influences.  I've been friends with the person I spoke of before for over 4 years now and during that time she's stated that she is envious of my self esteem and wants to know how I get it, I'm not sure, it's always come from within.  To tell someone to be confident is well and good, but I'm clueless to how to get someone to reach inside themselves and find that self worth and self love.

Until we can figure that out, there will be people who need validation for self worth and these threads will continue.

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RE: What attracts U/u to a BBW or any sub/slave - 1/18/2008 10:43:09 AM   
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No matter what is said or done, we will never be able to please everyone. Many people have their own tastes, wants and needs.  Really now do we look at someone walking down the street and say "Damn look at the brain on her/him." We can discuss this subject until we are blue in the face and there will never be a common ground.  Yet, that is what makes a good discussion, right?
 
If you really think about it, we are attracted to someone by their appearance, that is what makes us want to get to know them.  Some people the more you get to know the less attractive they become, and on the other hand, someone you did not even think you would be attracted to suddenly becomes that much more appealing. 
 
I am what I am whether you like it or not.  I am happy with myself and that is what matters, not what everyone else thinks.

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RE: What attracts U/u to a BBW or any sub/slave - 1/18/2008 10:43:44 AM   
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To tell someone to be confident is well and good, but I'm clueless to how to get someone to reach inside themselves and find that self worth and self love.

Until we can figure that out, there will be people who need validation for self worth and these threads will continue.


It's never about telling someone to be confident. It starts by having the courage to start asking oneself some very hard questions like, why do I need external validation in order to feel good about myself? Why do I always ask my boyfriend/husband/Dom/Master whether I look fat in this outfit or that? Why do I worry so much about how I look? Or about whether someone will think I'm ridiculous for voicing my opinions? And there are so many more. Then, we start to answer those questions and we start challenging our beliefs. This is one way to start building a foundation based upon personal strength and confidence. Only when I started challenging those false beliefs running around in my head since childhood, trying to tell me I was less than worthy was I able to begin constructing a Woman I could stand to live with.

Everyone can do the same. We don't have to be slaves to external validation.

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RE: What attracts U/u to a BBW or any sub/slave - 1/18/2008 10:48:55 AM   
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To tell someone to be confident is well and good, but I'm clueless to how to get someone to reach inside themselves and find that self worth and self love.

Until we can figure that out, there will be people who need validation for self worth and these threads will continue.


It's never about telling someone to be confident. It starts by having the courage to start asking oneself some very hard questions like, why do I need external validation in order to feel good about myself? Why do I always ask my boyfriend/husband/Dom/Master whether I look fat in this outfit or that? Why do I worry so much about how I look? Or about whether someone will think I'm ridiculous for voicing my opinions? And there are so many more. Then, we start to answer those questions and we start challenging our beliefs. This is one way to start building a foundation based upon personal strength and confidence. Only when I started challenging those false beliefs running around in my head since childhood, trying to tell me I was less than worthy was I able to begin constructing a Woman I could stand to live with.

Everyone can do the same. We don't have to be slaves to external validation.

MNN


I agree with you, but I'm a confident person.

I'm telling you what multiple conversations with a friend that lacks that confidence has lead me to see through her eyes.  If a guy asks her out he does it *despite* of her weight, when a guy breaks up with her he does in *because* of her weight.  For her and many other women, they've been conditioned by outside sources that their weight is their biggest issue.  These women look to the same external sources that broke them down to begin with to help build them back up which creates a vicious circle for them.

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RE: What attracts U/u to a BBW or any sub/slave - 1/18/2008 10:57:40 AM   
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My screen name pretty much says it all.  I find my beauty is in the eyes of others.  I am extremely straightforward in my profile and my journals.  If someone finds me to be attractive in their eyes, then they will approach me.  I don't push myself on others.  Why would anyone do that?  It is an act of desperation in my opinion.  I would much rather be approached by someone who has looked at all my pictures, read my profile and journal entries.  And yes, I do know that I am morbidly obese, fat, overweight, whatever someone wants to use to describe me.  I do not demand the attention of anyone who does not want to know me.

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RE: What attracts U/u to a BBW or any sub/slave - 1/18/2008 11:14:45 AM   
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ok but how about barking AND doing the flipper clap, would I get bonus points?

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I dunno hun, barking like a seal is pretty fucking hot to most of us!!!

Isn't it?

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