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slave rights vs subs - 1/26/2008 7:35:38 PM   
selena123


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Status: offline 		My slave has a fit when I check his cell phone because other women are calling him and I will be jealous.  I am curious to know if other slaves have this privacy and what you think of this situation. My slave has stated that he wants to be a Slave not a sub, to me that means no privacy. What do you think? thanks
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RE: slave rights vs subs - 1/26/2008 7:36:48 PM   
selena123


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Status: offline 		A slave has no rights at all, beat his ass and take the phone or force him to just be a sub.

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RE: slave rights vs subs - 1/26/2008 7:39:45 PM   
PrizedPosession


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Status: offline 		Master looks through my phone and He always asks who it is when someone calls but He has never taking my phone.  Personally i think that You need to understand why You are so jealous...has he had a past of cheating or is he just friends with them? He has chosen to serve You and by forcing it may defer him from telling You things because he will be afraid of your jealousy, but that's just me.
Hope You find the answers You need.
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RE: slave rights vs subs - 1/26/2008 7:43:58 PM   
BoundDown


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Status: offline 		What do I think... Tell him to suck it up, this is what he said he wanted, what he agreed to... now he wants to change the agreement because releasing this last bit of control over his phone makes him uncomfortable... if you give in to this complant then you might hear one day that you aren't really controling him how he needs or wants to be. I would hard line it... Either he figures out what he wants and needs and accepts it, or find some other way to exercise your control over him.

Wether he is a slave or submissive shouldn't be the focus here, those are only titles that are used very interchangebly here. The real issue is did he agree to your control over his cell phone.

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RE: slave rights vs subs - 1/26/2008 7:45:04 PM   
LeatherMasterKY


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Status: offline 		I wouldn't want to submit to someone who is so insecure, honestly.
That being said, HoneyMaster knows that He is welcome to look at anything He wants, any time.
I have nothing to hide.
Except my deepest darkest fantasies.
And He won't find those on my phone or in my computer...

~Christina

As you can see...HoneyMaster used my computer and didn't log out, so...but this is xxblushesxx (as if you couldn't tell...)

I do have to say that I am surprised that no one else wonders about the lack of security this Mistress has. If mine were so insecure, I don't think I could look up to Him as I do.
(then again, I don't have a bunch of things I'm hiding from Him on my phone, so...)

< Message edited by LeatherMasterKY -- 1/26/2008 8:09:02 PM >

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RE: slave rights vs subs - 1/26/2008 7:45:12 PM   
CalifChick


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quote:

ORIGINAL: selena123

My slave has a fit when I check his cell phone because other women are calling him and I will be jealous.  I am curious to know if other slaves have this privacy and what you think of this situation. My slave has stated that he wants to be a Slave not a sub, to me that means no privacy. What do you think? thanks


It only means whatever it means to YOU.  There is no standard definition, so if that's what it means to you, then that brings me to...

I am curious as to why he is allowing other women to call him when he is YOUR slave/sub/whatever (whatever YOUR definition of those words are).  And why are YOU allowing it?  Who is in charge here?

Cali


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RE: slave rights vs subs - 1/26/2008 7:45:58 PM   
MissMagnolia


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Status: offline 		He has other women calling him? HE has a fit? WTF????

Shove the phone up his arse and make him say thank you.

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RE: slave rights vs subs - 1/26/2008 7:49:07 PM   
Daddysjezzy


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Status: offline 		He sounds like a whiner not a slave.  Sorry but (a) a slave has only what you allow them to have; (b) a slave doesnt get to decide when they get privacy (c) a slave definitely doesnt get to have a "fit" when they dont get their own way.   You dont have a slave you have a whiney assed submissive who is trying to top from the bottom. 

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RE: slave rights vs subs - 1/26/2008 7:54:57 PM   
IrishMist


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ORIGINAL: MissMagnolia

He has other women calling him? HE has a fit? WTF????

Shove the phone up his arse and make him say thank you.

LMAO
Priceless

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RE: slave rights vs subs - 1/26/2008 8:05:14 PM   
kiwisub12


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Status: offline 		i am a slave - my master can open and read my mail, go on my computer and read my email - do what ever he wants when he wants - because he is my master.  Most of the time he chooses not to do these things - but he could, and would if he desired.   I have no rights - i have what my master wants me to have.  And i love that.

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RE: slave rights vs subs - 1/26/2008 8:17:25 PM   
fasn8nsub


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Status: offline 		Gotta love Miss Magnolia.....  lmao 

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RE: slave rights vs subs - 1/26/2008 8:17:28 PM   
beargonewild


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quote:

ORIGINAL: selena123

My slave has a fit when I check his cell phone because other women are calling him and I will be jealous.  I am curious to know if other slaves have this privacy and what you think of this situation. My slave has stated that he wants to be a Slave not a sub, to me that means no privacy. What do you think? thanks


Is this a 24/7 relationship?
Was this situation discussed prior to acquiring the slave?
Did you state right from the beginning that any slave of yours will have absolutely no privacy whatsoever?
Have you discussed what a slave and a sub means to the both of you?

It is fine that you define a slave to having no privacy yet yet if the slave hasn't consented to this from the beginning then it leaves too much room for conflict and dispute appearing. I believe that a slave should be given a small measure of privacy though that is strictly my thought. Each owner has their own concept and it's a matter of seeking a slave who is in full agreement to your views and best suits your needs.




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RE: slave rights vs subs - 1/26/2008 9:03:24 PM   
hisannabelle


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Status: offline 		greetings selena,

i am encouraged (required) to date other men by my master, but i am not allowed any privacy in that beyond being respectful to whomever i'm dating in terms of discretion. he doesn't check my phone; he doesn't need to. i'm expected to tell him whatever's going on that he needs to know.

respectfully,
annabelle.


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RE: slave rights vs subs - 1/26/2008 9:10:25 PM   
adoracat


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ORIGINAL: hisannabelle

greetings selena,

i am encouraged (required) to date other men by my master, but i am not allowed any privacy in that beyond being respectful to whomever i'm dating in terms of discretion. he doesn't check my phone; he doesn't need to. i'm expected to tell him whatever's going on that he needs to know.

respectfully,
annabelle.



hmm.  i wouldnt say i was encouraged to, but definitely allowed to.  Daddy knows and approves that i'm getting extra attention, and the one(s) i have seen know about Daddy, and my relationship with him.

but i agree, Daddy knows everything that goes on.  i'd not even THOUGHT of being anything but honest with him.

kitten

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RE: slave rights vs subs - 1/26/2008 9:15:37 PM   
MistressVnus


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Status: offline 		Bahahahahahaha!!!  Tooooooooooo funny Ms Magnoia.

After you get it up there, and he thanks you...call him and make his ass ring!!

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RE: slave rights vs subs - 1/26/2008 9:19:29 PM   
DiurnalVampire


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Status: offline 		If he has a fit because you will be jealous unnecessarily, then that is a problem. The question is WILL you be jealous, and do you have a REASON to be jealous?
Answering your own question in the second post is a little strange... but not everyone who owns a slave sees things that way.
I have access to Foxs email, I know all his passwords, I know he has female friends calling him often and I dont care. Why? I dont have to worry. He can talk to anyone he wishes and I know he is my property. I ask him who he is talking to, he OKs most conversations through me and I know and have spoken to everyone who is on his list.
If he wants to be your slave, he has to understand what YOU see as the definition of a slave.  My defenition of what liberties and freedoms are given to someone in a slaves position arent going to help im at all, since he is not MY slave. If he wishes to be your slave, he has to agree to your rules.  If he doesnt, then he is not a good slave for you. It is up to you if you wis to keep him as a submissive, with a different set of rules, or if you want to dismiss him. But you have to put your foot down and tell him what is expected if he is going to be your slave. And then do not waver. If it is what he wants, he complies. If it is not what he wats, he walks.  It realy is that simple.

DV


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RE: slave rights vs subs - 1/26/2008 9:20:24 PM   
littlebitxxx


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Status: offline 		1)  you allow your slave a cell phone?
2)  other women call him on it and You get jealous?
3)  take his phone away or stop checking it....you're doing it to yourself.  If you are that insecure, why do you allow him to talk to others to begin with?  If you don't trust him, why do you allow him to have a cell phone?  If you want him to have no privacy, then give him no privacy.  Who's the Domme in this?

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RE: slave rights vs subs - 1/26/2008 10:34:15 PM   
ProlificNeeds


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Status: offline 		In the beginning was it defined to him that he would have no privacy by being your slave? If so remind him of that. His choice is to break agreement and leave, or adhere to your wishes in this. If such instances of his complaints over restrictions or lack of freedoms is an issue, sit his ass down, outline what is and is not within your agreed upon relationship. I wouldn't waste too much time on a 'slave' who likes to keep parts of his life private from you, doesn't encourage trust imo.

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RE: slave rights vs subs - 1/26/2008 10:41:19 PM   
CalifChick


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quote:

ORIGINAL: DiurnalVampire

Answering your own question in the second post is a little strange... but not everyone who owns a slave sees things that way.


I missed that on the first go-round.  OP, what does that mean?

Cali


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RE: slave rights vs subs - 1/26/2008 10:43:44 PM   
juliaoceania


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Status: offline 		I do not think it matters what anyone thinks. I believe this is a discussion you need to be having with him.

I would wonder about someone that needed that level of "privacy" even if they were a dom to be frank with you, why do they need to hide who calls? The way I will answer this is to ask you a question...

Is he hiding this information because of your insecurities and because you over react to his female friends contacting him? If you have been overly jealous and obsessed with his conversations with others in the past, I can imagine that he would not feel safe to disclose all his conversations with you.. especially if he has been wrongly accused in the past...

On the other hand, if you haven't been overly insecure or unreasonable, then I might wonder why he hides his friendships from you. I think this applies to both doms and subs btw, if my Daddy had oodles of "private conversations" with people he did not want me to know about, I would wonder about that.

My Daddy has never demanded to know about any of my private conversations, and I never hide them from him. I think it might hurt me if he questioned it overtly, I would feel he did not trust me if he seemed obsessed to know who I was speaking with all the time.. for me it is not about privacy, it is about trust... I do not know if that makes sense.


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