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RE: slave rights vs subs - 1/26/2008 11:02:45 PM   
sunshinemiss


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ORIGINAL: MistressVnus

Bahahahahahaha!!!  Tooooooooooo funny Ms Magnoia.

After you get it up there, and he thanks you...call him and make his ass ring!!


I'm just imagining walking behind someone on the stairs.. and their ass ringing in my face... I gotta stop drinking tea when I read these things... I'm tired of cleaning it up when I spit it out from laughing.

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RE: slave rights vs subs - 1/26/2008 11:17:40 PM   
ownedgirlie


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ORIGINAL: selena123

My slave has a fit when I check his cell phone because other women are calling him and I will be jealous.  I am curious to know if other slaves have this privacy and what you think of this situation. My slave has stated that he wants to be a Slave not a sub, to me that means no privacy. What do you think? thanks


This questions just leaves me with other questions.  Is he not allowed to talk to other women?  If he is not, then he is disobeying and that should be dealt with.  If he is, and you give him shit for doing something he is allowed, that's a confusing message. 

I have no problem giving up privacy for my Master, but if the motivation behind my Master's rules stemmped from distrust, insecurity and jealousy, I would realize I was with the wrong Master.

On the other hand, if he was interested in seeing my cell phone bill to learn how I spend my time and with whom, he is certainly entitled to that, although it would be a waste of his time since I tell him anyway.

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RE: slave rights vs subs - 1/27/2008 1:36:22 AM   
MRandme


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Status: offline 		For me it is very simple -- either You trust him or You don't. If You don't... why are You keeping him?  If You do, why do You need to obssess over every little call?

There's a little red flag waving here... You seem to be trying to cut him off from friends who might happen to be female.

i've lived with unearned suspicion and jealousy. It wasn't pretty and made me miserable. It's a good way to drive a partner off.


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RE: slave rights vs subs - 1/27/2008 2:20:30 AM   
Justme696


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ORIGINAL: littlebitxxx

1)  you allow your slave a cell phone?
2)  other women call him on it and You get jealous?
3)  take his phone away or stop checking it....you're doing it to yourself.  If you are that insecure, why do you allow him to talk to others to begin with?  If you don't trust him, why do you allow him to have a cell phone?  If you want him to have no privacy, then give him no privacy.  Who's the Domme in this?


Agree with that, although does taking the phone away make the slave an other person? IF the slave can't be trusted it is time to either be more strict and intensify training or stop the "relation". You should be sure that they are not just normal friends. Trust is mutual, something you do together.
If they hide the phone when you are around or hide their email when you come in, well yes..then you should worry...(or you are to jealous?).

I have just been in similar situation. But when trust is gone, there is hardly a reason to continue. To much wasted energy.

< Message edited by Justme696 -- 1/27/2008 2:24:41 AM >

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RE: slave rights vs subs - 1/27/2008 2:52:46 AM   
wolfsprincess


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ORIGINAL: selena123

My slave has a fit when I check his cell phone because other women are calling him and I will be jealous.  I am curious to know if other slaves have this privacy and what you think of this situation. My slave has stated that he wants to be a Slave not a sub, to me that means no privacy. What do you think? thanks


First question - WILL You be jealous or is he ASSUMING You will be?

i am in an APE relationship.  i have no rights - thus no privacy.  Master seldom IF EVER checks such things - he doesn't feel a need to.  But if this one of Yours has other females calling him, i'd have to wonder why.  If this is something You allow, then i'd say allow it completely.  If not, get rid of the phone altogether.

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RE: slave rights vs subs - 1/27/2008 3:07:32 AM   
MistressOfGa


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ORIGINAL: MissMagnolia

He has other women calling him? HE has a fit? WTF????

Shove the phone up his arse and make him say thank you.


MissMagnolia,
Have I ever told  you how awesome I think you are? lol well you are!
 
To the OP,
I don't really understand the problem here. Take the phone away from him, and put an end to it. BTW, why are other women calling him?
 
Only you can answer your question, which you did as the second poster here. You posted:
 
quote:

A slave has no rights at all, beat his ass and take the phone or force him to just be a sub.

 
There ya go then.

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RE: slave rights vs subs - 1/27/2008 4:01:50 AM   
Justme696


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quote:

quote:

A slave has no rights at all, beat his ass and take the phone or force him to just be a sub.


yes and when he is a sub...then he has the phone again..and we are still in the same situation?


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RE: slave rights vs subs - 1/27/2008 4:50:00 AM   
MsLadySue


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Status: offline 		Are these females friends he had before meeting you? I stress the word friends. If so, what's the big deal?

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RE: slave rights vs subs - 1/27/2008 6:49:51 AM   
sambamanslilgirl


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Status: offline 		perhaps you should discuss this with your slave since you've already replied to your own thread.

however to answer your question, as a submissive, my mobile phone is mine and since i pay the bill for it, mine don't need to know who called me or whom i'm chatting with.  it's all about T R U S T.  and it seems to me especially with your jealousy, your relationship doesn't have it if you have to constantly look at his recent call list.


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RE: slave rights vs subs - 1/27/2008 7:22:44 AM   
kittengirl8


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Status: offline 		I think you (OP) need to be asking yourself some of the questions posted here.

-Was he friends with these women before meeting you/becoming your slave?
-Did you outline at the beginning of the relationship that he would have no privacy?
-Why do you feel the need to check his phone?
-Do you trust your slave?
-How long have you been together? Have you always done this?

And, to the other posters - we don't know their entire situation (rarely do we ever!) and what if the slave has a job, and he's making calls from/to work? Hey, it's plausible. Perhaps his best friend for 15 years is a female. Shocker! We just don't know. Plus, seeing as the OP responded to herself before anyone else did... I'm wary about this entire situation she discussed.

I personally think it shows a lack of trust on the Domme's part, and a lack of full disclosure on the sub's part. But... we still don't know what was outlined at the beginning of the relationship, what the sub knows to expect...

Now I'm all curious.

(Also, I had that same thought of a cell phone ringing from someone's ass in front of me. MissMagnolia, you are a fascinating person.)

~kitten~

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RE: slave rights vs subs - 1/27/2008 7:26:25 AM   
xxblushesxx


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Status: offline 		HoneyMaster pays for my cell phone, but He still doesn't obsess over who I'm talking to or for how long.
It's because He knows He can trust me.
This would be an easier question if we knew the dynamics of your relationship...
For instance, is this a person who has friends, but you are worried because they also have a vagina? Then suck it up.
Or is your slave an untrustworthy person to begin with, but, you feel that since you 'own' him you can somehow control that part of him? If so, you should know now, you can't.
You just can't.
Unfounded jealousy can eat away at a good relationship.
So can lying and cheating.
Figure out which one you're dealing with and go from there.

*hugs*

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RE: slave rights vs subs - 1/27/2008 7:28:32 AM   
xxblushesxx


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Status: offline 		Oh HELL! I missed the part where she responded to herself.
Perhaps she is...multi-faceted... Yanno?
That is bizarre!

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RE: slave rights vs subs - 1/27/2008 7:52:54 AM   
sjskuared


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Status: offline 		The question to me is what type of relationship do you have with him exactly.  If he is a true slave and to you that means no privacy then he is disobeying you and needs to be punished.  If he is taking advantage of you because you are a new domme or whining or maybe he doesn't realize the consequences of slavery then he needs to be punished. 

This is where you have to be strong and either punish him or get rid of him. 

My take here is you being jealous or not is your right, its not his call if he is a slave. You don't have to share him if you don't want to.  If you have some other relationship then you have to discuss what you both want.  As a sub I agree personally that no privacy is a good rule as long as it doesn't interfere with family or work and I would extend that to things like mail if you chose to.  IMO you and he both NEED for you to punish him so you both are clear on who is in charge and what the rules are. 

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RE: slave rights vs subs - 1/27/2008 8:12:41 AM   
TysGalilah


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Status: offline 		  Trust, integrity, being trustworthy and creating an environment where all three happen naturally> is equally intregal to both a Ds or Ms dynamic.                                  imo> it doesn't matter whether you call yourself a sub,slave,pet,littlegurl or fred..
 
It is also ALL parties actions and responsibility to create that environment of trust not just the s-types.
 
 
 
 

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RE: slave rights vs subs - 1/27/2008 9:02:59 AM   
kyraofMists


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ORIGINAL: selena123

My slave has a fit when I check his cell phone because other women are calling him and I will be jealous.  I am curious to know if other slaves have this privacy and what you think of this situation. My slave has stated that he wants to be a Slave not a sub, to me that means no privacy. What do you think? thanks


From what I am reading, it appears your motivation to eliminate his privacy is because you are jealous.

In my relationship he has the authority to do whatever he wants with the cell phone I use, email or any other thing he wishes to view.  However, his motivations are to know me and who I am.  It is not used as a means of monitoring me to alleviate any jealousy on his part.  If he was motivated out of jealousy, then I would not be his slave.

Maybe he does wish to be a slave, but just not a slave to someone who is jealous and insecure and need to use the cell phone as a means to monitor him.

My Lord has read my post before I posted it and his thoughts are that privacy or the lack thereof do not appear to be the issue; it is the lack of trust that is being communicated because of the motivation for wanting a lack of privacy. 

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RE: slave rights vs subs - 1/27/2008 9:14:00 AM   
DesFIP


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Status: offline 		Are you prone to irrational jealousy?

Did you tell him ahead of time he would have to give up contact with other females, even relatives and friends he has had for years? Are you demanding he break their privacy by giving you details of conversations, or allowing you to read text messages?

There's more than one way of looking at this and I'm a cynic. Especially when it comes to people who answer their own questions.

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RE: slave rights vs subs - 1/27/2008 9:41:27 AM   
LuckyAlbatross


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Status: offline 		I agree with Owned and will repeat that a slave can have whatever privacy the owner allows.

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RE: slave rights vs subs - 1/27/2008 3:40:29 PM   
sweetsub1986


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Status: offline 		I am a slave myself and if Gizzo ever felt the need to check my phone I would not question him.

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RE: slave rights vs subs - 1/27/2008 4:02:52 PM   
SweetieSub37


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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

My Daddy has never demanded to know about any of my private conversations, and I never hide them from him. I think it might hurt me if he questioned it overtly, I would feel he did not trust me if he seemed obsessed to know who I was speaking with all the time.. for me it is not about privacy, it is about trust... I do not know if that makes sense.



I totally agree with this - i would give access and would never hide conversations or friendships, but would worry if my Dom did not trust me.

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RE: slave rights vs subs - 1/27/2008 4:18:14 PM   
Littlepita


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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

My Daddy has never demanded to know about any of my private conversations, and I never hide them from him. I think it might hurt me if he questioned it overtly, I would feel he did not trust me if he seemed obsessed to know who I was speaking with all the time.. for me it is not about privacy, it is about trust... I do not know if that makes sense.



I was just talking to my Daddy about this thread and we talked about the exact same thing you just said in your post. It is about trust and it's about having a clear understanding of expecations.

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