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RE: It's hard to obey some things. - 1/28/2008 8:51:52 AM   
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You're right. i did misread that. Although i have to say that if her only concern for taking the pill is weight gain. Then it must be a serious issue at least for her. It could even be a deal breaker between them. i don't know, because there is not enough information for me to go on about that.


Serious is subjective.

I knew a man many years ago that would finance abortions rather then have his girl on the pill, he would also strictly enforce a diet and exercise plan if she gained as little as 5#.   I also know women who will impose the same dicipline to themselves for the same weight gain.  For some and once is a big deal, for others it isn't.

And I'm still unclear if the weight gain is her issue or her Masters.


i am also unbclear about that.


Maybe I'm just really lucky, but when any of these "Oh, my, I can't believe he's asking me to do THAT" topics come up and I try to imagine myself in their shoes, I just can't.  He is as attracted to my intellect as much as my physical appearence, my personality or my disposition and we've talked in abstract about concerns that may arise and I feel fairly confident that if he ever asked for something that triggered a negative emotion or reaction from me that I could simply talk to him about it.

Of course he has the right to listen to my concerns and expect his will implemented anyway, but with communication I can understand why he feels his ideas supercede my own reaction.

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RE: It's hard to obey some things. - 1/28/2008 9:55:35 AM   
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greetings sailingbum,

i have chronic migraines, which puts me at a higher risk of stroke while taking the pill. my gynecologist hates writing me the prescription every year, but she does it anyway. i still take it because it pleases him. nevertheless, most people i know do not list heightened risk of stroke under "acceptable." (and that's just the big scary side effect.) i don't think sweeping generalizations about the acceptability of risk make for particularly intelligent posts, considering that there are many common conditions that can cause issues with taking the pill, and we don't know anything about the op's health situation.




Hi Annabelle

The OP indicated her ONLY concern was weight gain.  She made no mention of any other health conditions or concerns.  I would never suggest to anyone to go against theirs doctors advice unlike you who is doing so currently.  But that is my point.  You get to decide what kind of risk your willing to take.  Thank you for making my point so CLEAR.  When you speak of ppl not knowing the risk factors it comes with every drug you buy, ya know the flyer that most ppl toss in the trash.  Personally I read them so I know what to expect.

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RE: It's hard to obey some things. - 1/28/2008 10:10:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		The only birth control that i have found, and used for a few years, is the Depo-provera. Which in my case, since i know not everyone is the exact same, did not cause me to gain weight. Though there are other side affects associated with it. But it's also a shot that you go in for every three months and it can be somewhat expensive. i'm starting a new bc known as desogen, of which i was told that it's one of the least expensive methods of bc and it doesn't cause a huge weight gain in most females who take it.
  As far as your Master telling you to take the bc pills, i would first talk with him since not all bc will protect against unwanted pregnancy. Unless that is what your hoping/going for. But it doesn't seem like it. Good luck with it

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RE: It's hard to obey some things. - 1/28/2008 11:56:52 AM   
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The only birth control that i have found, and used for a few years, is the Depo-provera. Which in my case, since i know not everyone is the exact same, did not cause me to gain weight. Though there are other side affects associated with it. But it's also a shot that you go in for every three months and it can be somewhat expensive. i'm starting a new bc known as desogen, of which i was told that it's one of the least expensive methods of bc and it doesn't cause a huge weight gain in most females who take it.
As far as your Master telling you to take the bc pills, i would first talk with him since not all bc will protect against unwanted pregnancy. Unless that is what your hoping/going for. But it doesn't seem like it. Good luck with it


The last time the doctor and I talked about Depo there'd been some new side effects discovered with long term use (osteoperosis being one of them) and they suggest that 2 years in an entire lifetime is the maximum anyone should get the shots.

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RE: It's hard to obey some things. - 1/28/2008 12:04:53 PM   
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Fast reply:

If she finds the pill she is taking causes weight gain and her diet/exercise program has not changed then she can go to him and ask to discuss it. Perhaps if it does occur a dietary/exercise adjustment can counter it or another BC method may need to be explored. There is no need to be afraid, it is a risk, ask him what the plan is if it happens, plan on implenting it if it does, and move on. I don't see the point in fretting about something that hasn't happened and may not.




I'm going to second this.  I don't understand what all the other fretting is about on this thread.  A gazillion women take the pill regularly, under their doctors care.  I believe it's the most recognized and most popular form of birth control.  People here seem to be reacting as though he's having her take arsenic.

Her concern was in displeasing her Master by gaining weight.  So to that I say, do the research, and that means asking the Master what his plan is if she does gain.  Any time my Master assigns me something that may have side affects, I do the research and explain those side affects to him, so he is fully informed.  If he accepts those side affects as part of the assignment, then it is inappropriate for him to punish me later for them.

For the record, I can not be on the pill, for medical reasons (Annabel, your situation really concerns me, as my reaction was so strong the docs couldn't decide if it was a severe migraine or a mild stroke), so my Master, while he prefers me to have a convenient birth control such as the pill, does not require it of me.  He'd rather  have me alive than dead or incapacitated.

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RE: It's hard to obey some things. - 1/28/2008 12:47:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		Make sure he knows about possible weight gain and won't object to this.

Are you monogamous? Because otherwise, and you've been monogamous for six months now with both of you having std scans done then and now, don't be stupid enough to contract a disease from him. If he cared about you, instead of just wanting sex his way, he would do what he had to in order to protect your health.

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RE: It's hard to obey some things. - 1/28/2008 2:10:28 PM   
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I'm going to second this.  I don't understand what all the other fretting is about on this thread.  A gazillion women take the pill regularly, under their doctors care.  I believe it's the most recognized and most popular form of birth control.  People here seem to be reacting as though he's having her take arsenic.

Her concern was in displeasing her Master by gaining weight.  So to that I say, do the research, and that means asking the Master what his plan is if she does gain.  Any time my Master assigns me something that may have side affects, I do the research and explain those side affects to him, so he is fully informed.  If he accepts those side affects as part of the assignment, then it is inappropriate for him to punish me later for them.

For the record, I can not be on the pill, for medical reasons (Annabel, your situation really concerns me, as my reaction was so strong the docs couldn't decide if it was a severe migraine or a mild stroke), so my Master, while he prefers me to have a convenient birth control such as the pill, does not require it of me.  He'd rather  have me alive than dead or incapacitated.


I just had to quote you.  I was amazed by the response but but but my situation is different.   To be blunt the OP didn't ask about your stiuaiton.  She was outlining her issue with weight gain.  I tend to give ppl a lot of credit in these forums most ppl give well thought out questions and answers are always fun to read as lot's of times it is something I had not thought of.  Today though my faith was shaken.

BadOne 

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RE: It's hard to obey some things. - 1/28/2008 2:20:55 PM   
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Master finally has told me to take my birth control pills so that he can cum in my cunt and fuck me without a condom. of course i want to please him this way, but i am loathe to take the pills. god, how i don't want to.

this is pretty tough for me. i am so worried about how i will displease him by gaining weight.


You can obey your master.

You can disobey your master.

In all matters, these are your two options.  Choose one.


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RE: It's hard to obey some things. - 1/28/2008 2:23:14 PM   
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I'm going to second this. I don't understand what all the other fretting is about on this thread. A gazillion women take the pill regularly, under their doctors care. I believe it's the most recognized and most popular form of birth control. People here seem to be reacting as though he's having her take arsenic.


I'm with you on this one.  Millions of women take the pill and, provided they are monitored properly by the doc, have no health issues whatsoever.  Obviously, if she has high blood pressure, or some other ailment which precludes her taking the pill, the doc usually won't prescribe it!  But to not take it because of weight gain is ludicrous - I've been off and on the pill (different ones too) many times over my life for different reasons, and never had more than a 5 pound swing, which quickly came off. 

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RE: It's hard to obey some things. - 1/28/2008 2:24:21 PM   
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I'm going to second this.  I don't understand what all the other fretting is about on this thread.  A gazillion women take the pill regularly, under their doctors care.  I believe it's the most recognized and most popular form of birth control.  People here seem to be reacting as though he's having her take arsenic.

Her concern was in displeasing her Master by gaining weight.  So to that I say, do the research, and that means asking the Master what his plan is if she does gain.  Any time my Master assigns me something that may have side affects, I do the research and explain those side affects to him, so he is fully informed.  If he accepts those side affects as part of the assignment, then it is inappropriate for him to punish me later for them.

For the record, I can not be on the pill, for medical reasons (Annabel, your situation really concerns me, as my reaction was so strong the docs couldn't decide if it was a severe migraine or a mild stroke), so my Master, while he prefers me to have a convenient birth control such as the pill, does not require it of me.  He'd rather  have me alive than dead or incapacitated.


I just had to quote you.  I was amazed by the response but but but my situation is different.   To be blunt the OP didn't ask about your stiuaiton.  She was outlining her issue with weight gain.  I tend to give ppl a lot of credit in these forums most ppl give well thought out questions and answers are always fun to read as lot's of times it is something I had not thought of.  Today though my faith was shaken.

BadOne 


Your post confused me a bit.  When someone asks what they should do, I can only tell them what I would do in a similar situation, which would be to do the research and present it to the Master.  She did not ask about health risks of the pill.  She did not present that as a concern.  If she did, I would have delved deeper into what various concerns are.  Regardless, I wouldn't be posting about what an asshole her Master is, like others are this thread have done.  Who am I to make such a conclusion?

I added that I can't take the pill to express that I certainly understand there are health concerns with it, but that I give people credit (maybe too much credit?) for knowing and communicating to their partners what medicines are safe for them and what are not. 

If a post such as mine shakes your faith in people, then I suggest asking yourself why you give so much power to pixels on a screen. 

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RE: It's hard to obey some things. - 1/28/2008 2:25:29 PM   
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But to not take it because of weight gain is ludicrous - I've been off and on the pill (different ones too) many times over my life for different reasons, and never had more than a 5 pound swing, which quickly came off. 


honestly i lost weight.


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RE: It's hard to obey some things. - 1/28/2008 2:27:48 PM   
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Master finally has told me to take my birth control pills so that he can cum in my cunt and fuck me without a condom. of course i want to please him this way, but i am loathe to take the pills. god, how i don't want to.

this is pretty tough for me. i am so worried about how i will displease him by gaining weight.


You can obey your master.

You can disobey your master.

In all matters, these are your two options.  Choose one.



3 She can talk to Him


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RE: It's hard to obey some things. - 1/28/2008 2:27:53 PM   
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Has he considered getting a vasectomy?

It is exasperating to read opinions a slave must follow blindly, no matter the consequences.

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RE: It's hard to obey some things. - 1/28/2008 3:15:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: kitttty

Master finally has told me to take my birth control pills so that he can cum in my cunt and fuck me without a condom. of course i want to please him this way, but i am loathe to take the pills. god, how i don't want to.

this is pretty tough for me. i am so worried about how i will displease him by gaining weight.


You can obey your master.

You can disobey your master.

In all matters, these are your two options.  Choose one.



3 She can talk to Him



She can, but that is merely a longer path to the same two options.  The master will issue a command, and she will obey or she will disobey.

That is the essence of TPE.  All the rest is window dressing.


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RE: It's hard to obey some things. - 1/28/2008 4:02:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		The whole reason contraceptives cause weight gain is because you're body isn't spending the calories preping for pregnancy and then shedding a thick uterine lining when it doesn't happen. An increase in your activity levels and a slight adjustment to your diet (less sugar, more protein), should fix any weight issues caused by the hormone fluctuations.

Now, this would be true for MOST women, but definately not for ALL women. Some women are extremely sensitive and will gain weight like crazy (if that happens, go see your doctor). Some women (a really close friend of mine) will actually loose weight while on birth control. If you have had a rough history with oral contraceptives, you need to take your Master with you to the doctor and discuss all your options with your OB-GYN. You're his slave right? Surely he'll want to know what the best choice is for him to make in regards to your safety, your health, and your overall well-being.

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RE: It's hard to obey some things. - 1/28/2008 6:46:45 PM   
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But to not take it because of weight gain is ludicrous - I've been off and on the pill (different ones too) many times over my life for different reasons, and never had more than a 5 pound swing, which quickly came off. 


honestly i lost weight.



Can I just say- for that I hate you j/k but I wish I lost weight- I think my body is conspiring against me to make me weigh 200 lbs

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RE: It's hard to obey some things. - 1/28/2008 6:57:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		The pill is only as reliable as you are in taking it, you have to take it at the same time everyday and you have to take it correctly and you can still get pregnant on the pill or any other birthcontrol.


I also think that weight gain while it can be a side affect, just tends to be more of an issue if you're prone to gaining weight or are not taking efforts to stay in shape.
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Master finally has told me to take my birth control pills so that he can cum in my cunt and fuck me without a condom. of course i want to please him this way, but i am loathe to take the pills. god, how i don't want to.

this is pretty tough for me. i am so worried about how i will displease him by gaining weight.

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RE: It's hard to obey some things. - 1/28/2008 7:10:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		I was on birthcontrol as a teenager for other reasons not birthcontrol, my blood pressure was never checked in the 2 years I was on it, not to get on it, and not to stay on it. nor did I have to get pysichals regularly to stay on it.
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You can't even get the script or get it refilled without having your bp checked regularly.

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RE: It's hard to obey some things. - 1/28/2008 7:19:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well I would just take advice from the others commenting on the list..I have a hard limit of condoms always..>LOL

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RE: It's hard to obey some things. - 1/28/2008 7:28:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		the last pill i took made me gain 10 lbs in about 10 days. i am really hoping that this one does not have the same effect.

i don't know why, but if a pill has a side effect, i will feel it. i hate fucking my body up with pills.

i am not allowed to gain weight.

it's Master's body but if he gets a vastectomy, i'm out the door.

i know i should please him by making my bare cunt available. it's still hard though.

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