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As far as someone mastering her.. ya know what they say.. those who scream the loudest against homosexuality usualy harbor some very *personal* issues with it.

I would love the chalange of bringing that hateful little mouthy bitch to heel.. However it would prob. come down to a scene with fish hooks and gas nozzles.. *smiles wickedly*

Gwyn

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ORIGINAL: OmegaG

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

We are a male dom/fem sub couple and are both very liberal. He firmly believes that a woman should be able to be whatever she wants, otherwise her decision to be his doesn't mean as much.

Actually...the idea of a woman being what she wants to be while still acting in a "traditional" submissive manner is more in line with the conservative ideal.  Witness all the "liberated" feminists' who are not submissive who just do not seem to get the "submissive" woman and who see her as somehow abused...they want to save her from her "abusive" dominant and/or herself.

I tend to be a rather weird mix...conservative in many areas, moderate in many areas.  I want my partner to be all that she wants to be and I want to help and guide her and yes, dominate her.  I feel that it is an interesting paradox...most women who are submissive made a conscious choice to be so and is that not truly the whole idea behind "liberation"?  The freedom to choose?

Conservatives has one ideal for women and they think all women should fit into that mold.  Liberals have another and expect all women to rejoyce in that role.  Neither side sees that true feminism is about individual choice, that the woman who chooses to stay home and raise children has the exact same worth as the woman who chooses to be childfree and run a fortune 500 company and both of them need to get off their high horses and understand that women who choose to work or need to work while raising a family are just as good as they are.

When people get out of their "once size fits all" paradigms, the world will be a happier place.

I believe the paragraph I have made bold is too much of a generalization.  I would agree that there are some on both sides...conservative and liberal...who need to get their heads out of their ass and deal with more pressing problems.  But...no matter what the political affiliation or gender, would you not agree that what you have stated is also a problem with many "true" feminists when it comes to "the submissive woman"? 

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ORIGINAL: Gwynvyd

Hehehehe I love ya too sweetie! *winks*


and of course you can play along.. as long as you dont get squicked by massive amounts of screaming and blood. *Great Big Creepy Grin*


Gwyn

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ORIGINAL: gorgeous1

I want to say a bit more...

I am a realist with idealistic dreams.

I happen to hold a political office. Not a big one...it's sandbox politics, really, but I am pretty proud of what I did. I saw MAJOR problems, and I decided to do something about it. For four years, our Association did not reach Quorum. The Board would just roll over to the next year. I went door to door and managed almost singlehandedly by collecting proxys to reach Quorum. I am the youngest person to ever hold a position as a Director, and while I was running, I had people threatening and bullying me, telling me I had no idea what I was getting myself into, I was going to get sued, and lose my home. I didn't back down, and I didn't let these people intimidate me.

I have really stirred the pot. In fact, I am going to be censured. FUCK 'EM. I'll wear it like a badge of honor. I'm not being censured because of FACTS- nobody is disputing the FACTS. I'm being censured for a subjective opinion of a Board majority who didn't like "the tone of my voice".

I have lots of friends and lots of enemies. I rejoice in the fact that I have awakened people. Before I ran, we had maybe 3 people attending our Board meetings. Now there are close to 40 a month. Some of them attack me and ridicule me, others support me. I REFUSE to play politics. If somebody puts a good idea on the table, I vote in favor of them, whether I like them as a person or not. I ALWAYS consider what is best for the people who put me in office.

I AM NOT A POLITICIAN.

I made a HUGE mistake, and helped two other people get into office. I thought they shared the same ideas as myself, but I found out later they were using me, riding on my coat tails to get elected, and both of them threw me under the bus. I should have known better- one of them has a degree on political science. She is a political whore, I see that now. All I can do is work harder next year to reach Quorum, and hope that some better people decide to run. I won't help anyone though, that's for sure.

Anyhow, I have a unique outlook on politics now. Politicians are dirty, and they don't get very far without giving somebody a blow job. I'm not going to crawl under the table for anybody or anything. If I can create change it will be only because I lead the way without compromising my ideas, and others chose to follow. I got elected on certain promises and principles and I won't sacrifice them.

Now, here's an idea: I wish we would all stop fighting amongst ourselves and start fighting for leaders who represent our values and beliefs. We should be going to our respective parties and demand they represent us once again, because they care nothing for you and me. All they care about is retaining their power, and they will whore us all out if it means they'll get to keep their cushy elitist jobs.

I would much rather have a Democrat in office that truly inspired their party members with true Democratic ideals and beliefs than a mediocre Republican who barely scraped by with a few more votes and leaves us Republicans with an uneasy feeling that they would sell us down river if it was politically expedient. Our leaders should take to heart that you can't please everybody. BE REAL, and if enough people vote you into office, be true to them, and represent them, and fight to give them what you promised.

Another thing: I stand firm in my values and beliefs, but I respect other people's beliefs too. If you think differently from me, that's great- let's keep it going because that is what makes our country great- people who are awake and aware and have an opinion. If Obama or HIllary wins, I will be disappointed, but if that's what the majority of the people want, I respect that. I just hope that you Dems out there don't sacrifice your beliefs and vote for "the lesser of two evils". Hold your candidates responsible and may the best man or woman win!

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ORIGINAL: jackriddle

Hi,

I confess, I'm a social disaster... can't keep my mouth off 'bad' topics after dinner, namely religion, politics... and sex of course. People end up fighting, but hey, if it's not to talk about things that matter to us, why talk at all!

So I've had for a long time a question nagging me, mainly because I -for different reasons- never had access to any 'community' where I could exchange views with other like minded folks:

Is the D/s community leaning towards a specifical political side ?

Logically, I'd say that a man who likes to be served by a submissive woman should be having a more right wing/conservative state of mind... but that's my case and I'm rather on the other side.

I'd particularly love to hear views from anyone having had interactions with a wide range of people within the BDSM community... Did you notice anything? Are certain profiles clearly ideologically defined?

Thanks for any imput !

Jack

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ORIGINAL: OmegaG

Oh, it is a rant that could apply in so many contexts.  I was once Mormon, for a woman to not wish to be married and raise a flock of children was unimaginable in their minds, a woman who wished a career was scorned, a woman who had a career and a family was even more detested.

A few weeks ago I saw a History channel documentary on the 60s which covered the beginnings of feminism as we know it, I was appalled by their black and white view of the need for women to throw down the yolk of men, The Gor series and Time Slave (also written by Norman) were, IMO, his counter attack to the extremists of that time.

Wow.. I had pondered that myself.

While feminism has mellowed over the years, they still haven't reached a point where the see that each woman's individual choice should be her own and should be what is best for her-- they still wish that every woman would seek independence from men.  And there still are extremists who would wish a world devoid of penis.  There is a Law professor at the school I work for that still maintains that every sexual act that a woman engages in is rape as a woman can never find pleasure in sex and she only does it for the pay-out, be it affection, marriage or security.

I choose a much more symbiotic relationship.

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ORIGINAL: jackriddle

Hi,

I confess, I'm a social disaster... can't keep my mouth off 'bad' topics after dinner, namely religion, politics... and sex of course. People end up fighting, but hey, if it's not to talk about things that matter to us, why talk at all!

So I've had for a long time a question nagging me, mainly because I -for different reasons- never had access to any 'community' where I could exchange views with other like minded folks:

Is the D/s community leaning towards a specifical political side ?

Logically, I'd say that a man who likes to be served by a submissive woman should be having a more right wing/conservative state of mind... but that's my case and I'm rather on the other side.

I'd particularly love to hear views from anyone having had interactions with a wide range of people within the BDSM community... Did you notice anything? Are certain profiles clearly ideologically defined?

Thanks for any imput !

Jack

I belong to whichever party listens to both sides of an issue, thinks about it objectively, and then makes a decision

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It made me see clearly that they care more for animals than people, and their agenda has clouded their sense of reason and better judgement.

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ORIGINAL: gorgeous1

I still hate the idea of the abuse of circus animals, the grinding up of baby chicks to feed other chickens, the treatment of animals as commodities, puppy mills, testing the SAME cosmetic ingredients on animals over and over again, producing the same results (don't eat lipstick, don't drink shampoo or massage your eyeballs with Preparation H, blah, blah, blah.

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Anyhow, I got really pissed off when PETA decided to chase after the Pope when he came to the states. They were carrying signs like "Go Veggie, for Christ's sake!". I'm not Catholic, but I just thought, C'mon! Millions of people love the Pope and this is a very deep and spiritual moment for them, to see and be near him. I don't like how PETA had to go stick their agenda in there. It made me see clearly that they care more for animals than people, and their agenda has clouded their sense of reason and better judgement.

I think I came to realize that there are far more pressing human issues that we need to focus on.

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Baby girls are murdered in China, Christians are imprisoned for no other reason than being Christians, we abhor child labor in our country, yet we look the other way when we purchase sneakers (or even our kinky toys) for an unbeatable price because a child works in a factory in China or Bangladesh. We pick and choose when and where and how we fight against genocide, we think a woman has a "right to choose" but shun the 15 year old girl with a swollen belly. We complain about illegal immigration, yet pay the gardener $40 a month for a job we damn well know is worth $70, and he sleeps in a dirty garage with 8 other men. In an effort to "empower" females, we have a generation of lost boys who don't know who they are or how to become men. We are a lazy, decadent, and self-indulgent society that has had the American Dream slipped out from under us while we were sleeping.

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If more people read historical biographies, particulary those of our founding fathers, there would be much gnashing of teeth and pounding of fists over what the politicians have done to our country, and the people who have allowed it to happen.

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It made me see clearly that they care more for animals than people, and their agenda has clouded their sense of reason and better judgement.

I'll believe that they care more for animals when I see them throwing red paint on the leather jackets of a bike gang. 
As long as they stick to little old ladies in fur coats, I will always have a sneaking doubt as to the courage of their convictions.

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Hi,

I confess, I'm a social disaster... can't keep my mouth off 'bad' topics after dinner, namely religion, politics... and sex of course. People end up fighting, but hey, if it's not to talk about things that matter to us, why talk at all!

So I've had for a long time a question nagging me, mainly because I -for different reasons- never had access to any 'community' where I could exchange views with other like minded folks:

Is the D/s community leaning towards a specifical political side ?

Logically, I'd say that a man who likes to be served by a submissive woman should be having a more right wing/conservative state of mind... but that's my case and I'm rather on the other side.

I'd particularly love to hear views from anyone having had interactions with a wide range of people within the BDSM community... Did you notice anything? Are certain profiles clearly ideologically defined?

Thanks for any imput !

Jack