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RE: Thread Hijacking - 2/2/2008 8:06:01 AM

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

Yes laurell3 I agree with you...my island in the universe is the only true reality...the rest of you are just visions in my mind. I can change you as I see fit… then you will disappear when I cease to exist.

well it beats the theory that we're all just actors in other people's dreams...

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RE: Thread Hijacking - 2/2/2008 8:07:37 AM

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If one is getting their positive strokes or responding overly negatively to the internet one needs to take a look at how "they" (whom are totally unknown to them) are being allowed so much power over their lives.

I think it is possible that some enjoy the struggle, in a masochistic sort of way. It's like they are receiving pain through public humiliation. It is the only way to explain some of threads that get started around here. They are receiving domination, on-line, from strangers, and although they complain about it, I am convinced in some cases, that they live for it.

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RE: Thread Hijacking - 2/2/2008 8:08:27 AM

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lol kd, you get my point, no man is an island but neither should any man be a sponge. Fluffy it's not personal, I was merely pointing out there are those here that do have that unrealistic expectation that goes far beyond "nice" or "respect".

Actually Katy I've often suspected the troll emails I get and those that change profiles to continue receiving snark via email for their inappropriate emails enjoy and/or seek serious negative attention which is one of the reasons I don't respond to them anymore. It's quite possible people seek negative attention here as well, although sometimes it's clear it's really more a measure of being lacking in intelligence.

< Message edited by laurell3 -- 2/2/2008 8:10:18 AM >

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RE: Thread Hijacking - 2/2/2008 8:09:31 AM

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ORIGINAL: fluffyswitch

meh. i think what it comes down to for me personally is that this is so much more interesting than the feminist theory i have to read that i already spent a semester dissecting...

Anything is more interesting than that.....

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RE: Thread Hijacking - 2/2/2008 8:09:50 AM

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      Amazing how the talk of being 'nice' goes right around the elephant in the room. Have ya'll forgotten this is a BDSM site??? There aren't a lot of places where you can walk in, get comfy and say, "hi, my name is _____ and I get a kick out of hurting other people." Or that you crave humiliation and abuse. This is one of them.

     Are we supposed to hide the very aspects of our personalities that brought us here?

     Nice???   If I want to be nice, I'll just stay on the work intranet 24/7.

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RE: Thread Hijacking - 2/2/2008 8:10:24 AM

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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

quote:

If one is getting their positive strokes or responding overly negatively to the internet one needs to take a look at how "they" (whom are totally unknown to them) are being allowed so much power over their lives.

I think it is possible that some enjoy the struggle, in a masochistic sort of way. It's like they are receiving pain through public humiliation. It is the only way to explain some of threads that get started around here. They are receiving domination, on-line, from strangers, and although they complain about it, I am convinced in some cases, that they live for it.

i think that it also gives people a sense of personal affirmation...even if people are nasty to you then they are paying you attention, and if you keep talking about it people will respond (even if it's just find a decent therapist, which i find exceptionally problematic but i think again that's more of a sociological issue for me than anything directed to people here) which may give people the sensation of, well, they're not being nice to me but maybe it's better to be infamous (annoying) than not noticed at all?

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RE: Thread Hijacking - 2/2/2008 8:11:58 AM

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ORIGINAL: fluffyswitch

meh. i think what it comes down to for me personally is that this is so much more interesting than the feminist theory i have to read that i already spent a semester dissecting...

Anything is more interesting than that.....

are you kidding me? part of me is wishing i had IRB approval so i could use this thread as data. i swear there's a paper in this somewhere...lol.

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RE: Thread Hijacking - 2/2/2008 8:12:16 AM

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ORIGINAL: laurell3
lol kd, you get my point, no man is an island but neither should any man be a sponge.

On the topic of sponges why has no one invented one that doesn't suck in millions of pubes. The man that invents such a sponge, well he could have the world at his feet.

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RE: Thread Hijacking - 2/2/2008 8:13:08 AM

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ORIGINAL: EvilCrimeLord

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ORIGINAL: laurell3
lol kd, you get my point, no man is an island but neither should any man be a sponge.

On the topic of sponges why has no one invented one that doesn't suck in millions of pubes. The man that invents such a sponge, well he could have the world at his feet.

and what would you do with it once it got full?

uh oh veering dangerously into no no land

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RE: Thread Hijacking - 2/2/2008 8:14:02 AM

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i think that it also gives people a sense of personal affirmation...

Absolutely. I think they are not getting it from significant areas in their lives: work, home, family, partner. So they come here in order to be validated, even if it's validation of a negative nature.

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RE: Thread Hijacking - 2/2/2008 8:15:05 AM

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E=MC something it is all about the potential energy.

Critical pube mass maybe.

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RE: Thread Hijacking - 2/2/2008 8:16:00 AM

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

     Amazing how the talk of being 'nice' goes right around the elephant in the room. Have ya'll forgotten this is a BDSM site??? There aren't a lot of places where you can walk in, get comfy and say, "hi, my name is _____ and I get a kick out of hurting other people." Or that you crave humiliation and abuse. This is one of them.

    Are we supposed to hide the very aspects of our personalities that brought us here?

    Nice???   If I want to be nice, I'll just stay on the work intranet 24/7.

But my friend...should the moderators also reflect this attitude...That is my question.

Said as I sidestep the raging elephant with a big number 11 painted on the side.

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RE: Thread Hijacking - 2/2/2008 8:17:52 AM

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

     Amazing how the talk of being 'nice' goes right around the elephant in the room. Have ya'll forgotten this is a BDSM site??? There aren't a lot of places where you can walk in, get comfy and say, "hi, my name is _____ and I get a kick out of hurting other people." Or that you crave humiliation and abuse. This is one of them.

    Are we supposed to hide the very aspects of our personalities that brought us here?

    Nice???   If I want to be nice, I'll just stay on the work intranet 24/7.

i guess i didn't realize that they're mutually exclusive concepts. i'll keep that in mind.

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RE: Thread Hijacking - 2/2/2008 8:26:18 AM

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ORIGINAL: fluffyswitch
i swear there's a paper in this somewhere...lol.

This is telling. Your primary relation to trauma is verbal, so you are worried about words triggering someone's breakdown. When I read Letters from a War Zone, my response to it was "Yeah, so...?" because I had already been caring for women with PTSD flashbacks since before I was 18 years old. Sheltered people from upper middle class backgrounds are impressed by Dworkin because she had a hard life and she's got a good mind.

The best posters on this site have had a hard life and have a good mind. Posters on this very thread have been raped, sometimes multiple times. I'm not glad it happened, but their ability to move beyond such experiences is part of why they can write well and genuinely help others.

I've taught undocumented, illiterate immigrant women how to read. I've done legal advocacy and, for example, won a woman $3,000 and a job reinstatement after she was fired from waitressing because she got pregnant. Meanwhile, you're reading theory and writing papers.

People are extremely strong and resilient. I consider women to be people. Words hurt, but there are other things that hurt far, far more. If you have no personal experience about that, I am glad for you. Regardless of your own history, it is far more important to tell the truth -- whether respectfully or nastily -- than to be a polite liar.

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RE: Thread Hijacking - 2/2/2008 8:28:23 AM

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speaking of no no's...mine was the clam chowder comment last night that got me my warning. i got a bit pissy about it last night when i didn't know the reason for the warning, but now that i know what the problem was, it is justified i think. i find it interesting that i didnt' realize i was doing it since i was joking around in a good natured way. at any rate, this gives me a different way of thinking about what a hijack is or isn't i suppose.

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RE: Thread Hijacking - 2/2/2008 8:31:20 AM

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Though I`ve responded to items not in an OP,I haven`t tried to hijack.

I`ve been accused of hijacking my own thread,but I didn`t.

Not sure what the fuss is all about,but then again,this isn`t my house or my rules.

The 1st thread I posted to was "Thought Police,something or other",about political correctness etc.

Don`t ask me how,but the thread turned into a discussion about guns,and who had what gun(s),and why they liked their guns,and how many guns people had.

There should be moderation for that kind of major rift,but not a lttle drift.

My 2 cents.

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RE: Thread Hijacking - 2/2/2008 8:32:49 AM

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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

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ORIGINAL: fluffyswitch
i swear there's a paper in this somewhere...lol.

This is telling. Your primary relation to trauma is verbal, so you are worried about words triggering someone's breakdown. When I read Letters from a War Zone, my response to it was "Yeah, so...?" because I had already been caring for women with PTSD flashbacks since before I was 18 years old. Sheltered people from upper middle class backgrounds are impressed by Dworkin because she had a hard life and she's got a good mind.

The best posters on this site have had a hard life and have a good mind. Posters on this very thread have been raped, sometimes multiple times. I'm not glad it happened, but their ability to move beyond such experiences is part of why they can write well and genuinely help others.

I've taught undocumented, illiterate immigrant women how to read. I've done legal advocacy and, for example, won a woman $3,000 and a job reinstatement after she was fired from waitressing because she got pregnant. Meanwhile, you're reading theory and writing papers.

People are extremely strong and resilient. I consider women to be people. Words hurt, but there are other things that hurt far, far more. If you have no personal experience about that, I am glad for you. Regardless of your own history, it is far more important to tell the truth -- whether respectfully or nastily -- than to be a polite liar.

i never once made any implication about lying, and frankly you have no idea about what i have had happen to me outside of what i've posted on this board, as you have said. what if i had said that i've been in and out of therapy for the past ten years, in part for borderline verbal and emotional abuse? what difference would it have made to say that i was raised by two abuse survivors who in turn had to parent based off of that? what difference would it have to said that i've been assaulted twice? not a damn thing.

i realize that you may not have intended to but you're attempting to place me in a box that may not be the right one for me

and i never once made any suggestion about lying.

so yes i'm writing papers. so yes i'm being educated. there is more than one form of advocacy out there, and just because i'm choosing as a feminist academic to attack the ivory tower doesn't make me any less worthy, especially considering you have no idea what that damn paper would even be about.

i realize that this sort of harsh for a post that may have not been about that but unless there's a delete funciton on this thing i haven't found yet there it stands.

< Message edited by fluffyswitch -- 2/2/2008 8:34:25 AM >

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RE: Thread Hijacking - 2/2/2008 8:38:17 AM

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ne'er- do-wells

Fucker, it burns me when sob's like you just don't call me straight out by name.

BTW, I used to be on that short list.

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RE: Thread Hijacking - 2/2/2008 8:42:55 AM

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speaking of no no's...mine was the clam chowder comment last night that got me my warning. i got a bit pissy about it last night when i didn't know the reason for the warning, but now that i know what the problem was, it is justified i think. i find it interesting that i didnt' realize i was doing it since i was joking around in a good natured way. at any rate, this gives me a different way of thinking about what a hijack is or isn't i suppose.

i really think this is part of the problem. we dont't really understand context online right off the bat, or don't necessarily initially anyway. there's a reply here that i really wish i could pull but it's got to sit there.

sigh such is the joys of online communication.

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RE: Thread Hijacking - 2/2/2008 8:45:46 AM

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ORIGINAL: fluffyswitch

i guess i didn't realize that they're mutually exclusive concepts. i'll keep that in mind.

If you can only see it as a black and white issue, we aren't going to communicate very well, Fluffy. Doesn't it seem logical that a kink site's line of tolerance will lie towards a darker shade of grey?

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