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RE: Punnishment...two N's are one? - 9/8/2005 2:14:24 AM

KatyLied

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Just to clarify for you (NakedOnMyChain), I was not being sarcastic. Being tickled is fun when it's in a playful way, but being bound and tickled would be torture to me, knowing that there was no escape would make it something I wouldn't enjoy.

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RE: Punnishment...two N's are one? - 9/8/2005 3:12:24 AM

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Thanks. Sorry I got defensive for no reason. I misinterpreted. My apologies.

I completely agree with you. I'd rather be severely caned than bound and tickled. It's too intense.

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RE: Punnishment...two N's are one? - 9/8/2005 5:07:07 AM

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ORIGINAL: lustiwench

I destest the idea that 'we mustn't do that it will scare the newbies'. If a little light play such as toy testing as KinghtofMists described or a Dom or Master disciplining his sub/slave scares them, then they probably shouldn't be there to begin with.

I didn't mention SCARE anyone, none of my posts did. However, the majority of munches take place in a full vanilla setting, usually at a public vanilla restaurant, where overt displays of kink would cause unwelcome attention. There HAVE been munches that lose their venue because of the inappropriate behavior of the members.

Now, if people were going to a play party, or a munch at a private residence, the scenario would be entirely different. There would be an entirely different set of expectations of behavior.

My points were that- I'd considered it inappropriate if it were taking place at a typical vanilla restaurant munch, AND that I wanted to clarify that those things generally do NOT take place at a typical vanilla munch.

Amusing since I'm the LAST person on this forum who would start to talk about protecting the poor wittle newbies. What I am discussing is good manners and socially appropriate behavior.

Personally, I consider kneeling in restaurants perfectly acceptable, IF its unobtrusive and out of peoples ways AND it won't likely lead to awkwardness or difficulties with the people who have decided to share their time with me at the restaurant. The situation described here was neither.

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This is supposedly what they want to be involved in, why would it scare them? Just maybe, if munches reflected a bit more of who and what we are, whatever that might be, instead of pretending to be something we aren't, we might not have so many vanilla's involved in the lifestyle, whatever that may mean to you, just because it's all the rage and the latest fad right now.

Does that mean we don't go out to restaurants and eat and socialize like vanilla people?

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BTW...it's also considered bad manners to impose your ideals on others as the only twue and right way.

I'm definiely an etiquette snob in some ways. But to consciously do behavior in public that had a high likelihood of DIRECTLY negatively affecting the group you are with is rude and irresponsible IMO.

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RE: Punnishment...two N's are one? - 9/8/2005 6:34:15 AM

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Hello There,
I would suggest making her scrub your kitchen floor with a tooth brush. If you really wanted to be mean you could make her wear nipple clamps with a chain between them while she did it. Tell her you'll only take them off when she's done the floor.
I've never had to do this, but I did scrub someones tub while naked with nipple clamps. I also vacuumed that way before. As you move around the chain makes the clamps sting. It could be a good punishment to someone with sensative nipples.
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RE: Punnishment...two N's are one? - 9/8/2005 8:37:45 AM

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Thank you Suzanne, I will remember this suggestion as it appeals to me.
I hope you and Master are well and will look forward to seeing you both again soon!

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RE: Punnishment...two N's are one? - 9/8/2005 8:57:29 AM

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Munches aren't play opertunities, Munches, in the typical sense of them are to get together and socialize. You may see someone bring a small toy to show off to friends, and you may even see someone get a friendly smack or two. But munches are not play parties. The behavior guidelines are not so not to scare newbies, their so you will continue being welcome at that establishment. Even in private rooms the waiters sometimes come in to take your orders, and not all the time are rooms private the last munch I went to was held at a table in the middle of the restarante among other tables some of the people family people, in a family setting

Your statement is all encompassing, so by your reckoning if I go to a munch where people are playing then they are wrong, because all munches around the world have the same rules and guidelines. Thankyou next munch I go to where people are playing I'll be sure to tell them. To think all these years I have been getting it wrong, here I thought this life style was live and let live and tolerance but it appears there are select few people in the whole wide world who know the only way BDSM should be done and sit in judgement of all of us..

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RE: Punnishment...two N's are one? - 9/8/2005 9:17:52 AM

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The thing is emerald you talk of good manners yet show a distinct lack of them yourself. I posted about a punishment I did, you do not know me, you did not know where nor when this munch was nor did you know the rules, yet you felt you had a right to question me, then attack and insult me. I could have really been rude by saying 'Who the f**k are you to lecture me". Instead I tried politly to tell you that it was none of your buisness. Again you attack me, not knowing anything about when or where this took place, I was doing this stuff before you were born, but again you tell me by implication you know all there is to know about BDSM so therefore you must be right. Now tell me who is showing the lack of good manners here?
What I did at this munch was perfectly acceptable, I tried to show it to you

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But the really funny thing is I have never been banned from a munch, and get invited to go to 'lifestyle' functions all the time...

, because if it was against the rules I am sure I would have been banned, but it went right over your head as you continued to attack and insult. Others posted, but you acted like a petulant child wanting your point of view accepted and no other. Next time before you attack someone for something they have done and shared make sure you know all the facts, better yet be there and see it for yourself before you start name calling. I am not going to post on this thread again I'm bored with it and have better things to do. So you can continue name calling all you want. Have fun.........

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RE: Punnishment...two N's are one? - 9/8/2005 10:13:28 AM

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had to wade back thru the bickering to remember what original post was about...not that i have been posting much or for very long here...but shouldn't you two take this private if you wish to continue??

worst physical punishment for me was after not ahem cleaning myself out properly...at which point, he filled me up with an enema...let me release what was absolutely necessary, then made me get on all 4s on a bed, spread a little bit and then paddled me mediumly with a smooth piece of wood...not a paddle, but just a pice of wood...corners and all, while holding a bit of water in...then going with a red butt to finish emptying...no real damage done but i never forgot to clean again...

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RE: Punnishment...two N's are one? - 9/8/2005 11:32:58 AM

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For my Kat, it's pretty simple... a lot of impact play is a turn-on for us both, but there are a couple of things she hates. One of them is the cane. As a result, that's pretty much become our punishment tool.

I'll be clear that we aren't really in a service situation, so making her scrub floors or whatever isn't going to fly. So this is what works for us.

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RE: Punnishment...two N's are one? - 9/8/2005 3:46:53 PM

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ORIGINAL: WickedKev
you did not know where nor when this munch was nor did you know the rules

Isn't that why I asked in the first place?

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, yet you felt you had a right to question me

This is a discussion forum, if you're here, you will be questioned. The only person who might not have a right to do so would be your own property. It's also not good manners to tell other people what their rights are.

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then attack and insult me.

I didn't really attack you, certainly not to start out. You could say I insulted you- I did after all say I felt the behavior (in certain contexts) would be rude and that you held your own selfish desires above those of common sense and long term consequences. However, you seem rather proud of those actions so I'd be surprised if you were saying now that you felt insulted by that.

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I could have really been rude by saying 'Who the f**k are you to lecture me". Instead I tried politly to tell you that it was none of your buisness.

No, you asked why it made a difference. I explained my reasons for why it made a difference (manners, consequences to others, being out of place at a normal vanilla munch setting) and THEN you started going on about being puritanical and how you wouldn't curb what you wanted to do just because of circumstances or consequences to others.

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Again you attack me, not knowing anything about when or where this took place,

Uh again, that was my first question. The only one who is to blame for me not knowing where it was or what circumstances it was under was you, I actively tried to find out so I could make a more informed judgement.

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I was doing this stuff before you were born, but again you tell me by implication you know all there is to know about BDSM so therefore you must be right. Now tell me who is showing the lack of good manners here?

Ohh the age card. I didn't imply anything at all. I stated what I felt was lack of manners and what wasn't. Nothing more or less. I also stated some generalities about munches.

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Next time before you attack someone for something they have done and shared make sure you know all the facts, better yet be there and see it for yourself before you start name calling. I am not going to post on this thread again I'm bored with it and have better things to do. So you can continue name calling all you want. Have fun.........

Next time try engaging in productive discussion rather than questioning back and being snarky and THEN getting huffy because the other person "doesn't know what they are talking about" even though they were directly ASKING so they COULD know what happened.

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