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TribeTziyon -> RE: Paying To Be Handicapped (2/4/2008 2:39:33 PM)

I am jumping ahead here without finishing reading the thread but I may not make it through or back.

I lived in Phoenix for a a number of years in the 1990's. I have been gone 6 years now, so things have changed I suppose. There were some nice rentals in the Glendale that specialized in serving the handicapped. The ones I am referring to were on 59th Avenue. They were all ground floor and spacious. The accomodations were more tailored for those with mobility challenges but they might be an option. Renting in Phoenix was like renting in no other place I lived.

Good thoughts and wishes to you on your journey.

I use to live almost a stone's throw from the Arizona School for the Blind. Just reading your post brought it back so clearly.




kittensmailbox -> RE: Paying To Be Handicapped (2/4/2008 2:42:06 PM)

i loving all this great advise and support that everyone is giving, i would clap for everyone if i could {LOL, LOL} ... NOT to change the topic, but quick question... Why do some ppl have to wait to have there posts approved?

OH, and something that i wish to add, yes i too have been discriminated against when looking for work and i could have sued, but then i had to think, is that some place that i really want to work...




MistressOfGa -> RE: Paying To Be Handicapped (2/4/2008 2:49:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kittensmailbox

i loving all this great advise and support that everyone is giving, i would clap for everyone if i could {LOL, LOL} ... NOT to change the topic, but quick question... Why do some ppl have to wait to have there posts approved?

OH, and something that i wish to add, yes i too have been discriminated against when looking for work and i could have sued, but then i had to think, is that some place that i really want to work...


I love the advice and support too..and not to say anything bad, but I've a feeling the reason this thread is going so well, is that we don't have anyone negative posting on it. [;)]
 
The reason some people have "waiting for approval" is because they are on "Moderation" for something they may or may not have done wrong in posting.





LadyHathor -> RE: Paying To Be Handicapped (2/4/2008 2:51:52 PM)

Yes Dear, but you forgot to mention that you are My designated driver when you are here, when I have martinis when we are out---one hand on the road and one on the wheel----smiles, this has been great---lost if support, it does show that at the end of the day, we do pull together---




farglebargle -> RE: Paying To Be Handicapped (2/4/2008 2:52:49 PM)


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ORIGINAL: AxilX

The reason i mentioned dog food was because the fact you need a guide dog is also a direct result of your condition. 


It's quite likely, and you'd have to verify this with your own CPA, that the care and maintenance, including dog food is an expensable item in this instance.





MistressOfGa -> RE: Paying To Be Handicapped (2/4/2008 2:54:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyHathor

Yes Dear, but you forgot to mention that you are My designated driver when you are here, when I have martinis when we are out---one hand on the road and one on the wheel----smiles, this has been great---lost if support, it does show that at the end of the day, we do pull together---


lol LH,
I tried to tell that Helen Keller joke at school...no one laughed...then I changed Helen Keller to my name and they all laughed lol funny stuff!
I will drive, but you have to be my eyes lol
 
Moga




MistressOfGa -> RE: Paying To Be Handicapped (2/4/2008 2:57:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle


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ORIGINAL: AxilX

The reason i mentioned dog food was because the fact you need a guide dog is also a direct result of your condition. 


It's quite likely, and you'd have to verify this with your own CPA, that the care and maintenance, including dog food is an expensable item in this instance.

farglebargle I love the name!(But excuse me if my program said the wrong thing lol) The guide dog school allows 250.00 per year for each dog they send out. Anything above and beyond that is my responsibility. Unless of course he is not working out for me, then they bring me back for more training with another dog.
Thanks for responding :)
 
MoGa




MistressOfGa -> RE: Paying To Be Handicapped (2/4/2008 3:00:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TribeTziyon

I am jumping ahead here without finishing reading the thread but I may not make it through or back.

I lived in Phoenix for a a number of years in the 1990's. I have been gone 6 years now, so things have changed I suppose. There were some nice rentals in the Glendale that specialized in serving the handicapped. The ones I am referring to were on 59th Avenue. They were all ground floor and spacious. The accomodations were more tailored for those with mobility challenges but they might be an option. Renting in Phoenix was like renting in no other place I lived.

Good thoughts and wishes to you on your journey.

I use to live almost a stone's throw from the Arizona School for the Blind. Just reading your post brought it back so clearly.

I found a place in the Glendale area. It is very far from my school as you know, but I use dial-a-ride so fairly cheap to get there :)
 
MoGa




MissHarlet -> RE: Paying To Be Handicapped (2/4/2008 3:12:28 PM)

Congratulations on finding a place ... I hope you get moved in and settled soon .. nothing like having your own place no matter what.




farglebargle -> RE: Paying To Be Handicapped (2/4/2008 5:03:32 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MistressOfGa

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle


quote:

ORIGINAL: AxilX

The reason i mentioned dog food was because the fact you need a guide dog is also a direct result of your condition. 


It's quite likely, and you'd have to verify this with your own CPA, that the care and maintenance, including dog food is an expensable item in this instance.

farglebargle I love the name!(But excuse me if my program said the wrong thing lol) The guide dog school allows 250.00 per year for each dog they send out. Anything above and beyond that is my responsibility. Unless of course he is not working out for me, then they bring me back for more training with another dog.
Thanks for responding :)
 
MoGa



I *know* it's your responsibility. It *MAY BE* an expense which reduces your tax liability. Again, consult your CPA.




pupofMoGa -> RE: Paying To Be Handicapped (2/4/2008 5:41:08 PM)

<crawls up to Mistress with a guide harness on and sits quietly by Her side, listening to Her talk>




Griswold -> RE: Paying To Be Handicapped (2/4/2008 5:51:01 PM)

When did you become blind?




Level -> RE: Paying To Be Handicapped (2/4/2008 5:55:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MistressOfGa

As most of you know, I am blind. When searching for an apt. for the past several weeks, I ran into this:


Good lady, I didn't know that.... *warm hugsssssss*
 
I've always liked you, but my respect for you has grown quite a bit, reading this thread.




Griswold -> RE: Paying To Be Handicapped (2/4/2008 6:00:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: AxilX

The manager is correct, you are not being charged more because you are handicapped, you are being charged more because a bottom floor is preferable to a top floor.  I'm somewhat suprised that there is no handicapped access to the second floor, in most states that is a requirmeent under most conditions.  Would you also have the pet store provide you free dogfood?


Ya know....that was just entirely uncalled for.

She never suggested as much in her post.  In fact, her post was uniquely unbaised.

She suggested "why?"....you suggested alternatively "get the fuck in the game".

67,000 people in the United States will become "visually impaired" this year.

That includes both blind (entirely) and impaired enough such that they will have equivalently, sight that is by all measures....lacking.

Those of us that have enough vision that we can see well, have advantages that those who don't, will only have fond memories of.

Tie a bandana around your head...close off your own sight until you no longer have any...then try to find your way around an environment you're all too familiar with (your own)....then show me your ambivalence towards those who should just "get in the game".

Tell me then what being blind feels like.  Explain to everyone here in precise detail just exactly how to "get in the game".

Please...really...show us how it's done.

This is all too real for some.  And for those that it is...trust that they have all the more understanding of your world.

(Try to have some for their's).




LadyHathor -> RE: Paying To Be Handicapped (2/4/2008 6:34:01 PM)

I believe if you look back a few pages, she wrote about when this happened and how ( about last October I believe it finally diminshed)--also if you write to her, MoGa she will be glad to chat off post---She is IMHO one gutsy broad---I could not be as strong.




Griswold -> RE: Paying To Be Handicapped (2/4/2008 6:37:47 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyHathor

I believe if you look back a few pages, she wrote about when this happened and how ( about last October I believe it finally diminshed)--also if you write to her, MoGa she will be glad to chat off post---She is IMHO one gutsy broad---I could not be as strong.


I wrote to her privately....awaiting....thank you :)




Griswold -> RE: Paying To Be Handicapped (2/4/2008 6:44:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MistressOfGa
Is this for real ? I will address that and move on, you are typing, if you can't see you can't type. Is there a new program called typospeak, or speakotype or something ? I am not trying to be antagonistic here, I really want to know.


Gawwwwd....some people were just born stupid.

This reminds me of a question I'm often asked;  "Why the hell do they have Braille on Drive Thru bank machines?"

(Did it ever occur that while being driven to a bank....after hours....blind people may occasionally need money too?)




Griswold -> RE: Paying To Be Handicapped (2/4/2008 6:46:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: angelikaJ

Have you contacted your local "disability office" to find out what your rights are?

I might suggest also trying to network with someone who has gone through what you are going through...find out how they handled that kind of thing...

Best of luck!



Also:  http://www.access-board.gov/

I have specific and individual contact names if you need them.




sblady -> RE: Paying To Be Handicapped (2/4/2008 7:34:01 PM)

MistressOfGa,
You can contact the American with Disabilities Acts (ADA) administration in your area if you feel this apartment complex is discriminating because of your specific needs or requests.   Sometimes just the thought of being investigated by the ADA and the ensuing legal issues are enough to snap these folks into place.  I've never heard where the price of an apartment is higher on a ground floor than it is on a higher floor in an apartment (it's usually opposite, but I'm in Michigan).  I haven't yet read thru all the posts, but please let me know if you need any addditional information.

Take care




EvilGenie -> RE: Paying To Be Handicapped (2/4/2008 8:16:46 PM)

 I wonder what makes the, already laudable for who she is, MoGA so much more laudable here now. I have read from more than one along the lines of ............I didn't know you were blind and then all of the sudden she is automatically ''gutsy'' ''strong'' and many other adjectives. I would dare say MoGA you'd be exactly the same sort of woman that you are now, blind or not. See where this is going? Anyone? All of the sudden she has changed because she deals with blindness.

Many of us are disabled, ''gutsy'' and ''strong'' but it is not our disabilities that make us such. I have always been gutsy and strong long before the word disability came into my life and always will remain so. We are no more gutsy or strong because we are disabled than all of the other gutsy and strong folks who are not disabled. My disabilities are at times horrific and people often ask ''how do you do it??''  There are plenty of disabled couch potatoes as well just as there are plenty of non-disabled couch potatoes. It is a personality type, not a disability which sets some of us apart, disabled or not. Is life a bit more difficult with disabilities? In many cases, yes. Though those who perservere are those who want to not only those with disabilities.

Well peeps, we all have 2 options, disabled or not. Move forward, go on and live a life worth living or give up, sit in a corner and wait to die. I do not want to take up space waiting to die thanks. For every ONE thing that I am unable to do, there are a MILLION more that I can do.

MoGA as to your question of telling people. When I was actively seeking, I told those whom I felt a closeness with. When making friends it is much the same. When I met mine whom I am now married to I pretty much told him most of it right up front as I knew for certain this was going someplace. You see, my disabilities are 3 tiered and I think I have mentioned one of them in my journal here. I have always been one of those ''my life is an open book'' types so I tend not to even think to hide these facts about myself. In fact, at times, I believe it has helped people understand me and other disabled folks a bit better.

My disabilities are facts to me just like my eyes being green or my hair being blonde. They carry very little if any emotional weight to them anymore though I have my moments. So I am a bit like Joe Friday with a ''just the facts Ma'am'' attitude. They are part of what makes me who I am and I am proud of who I am and what I have contributed to those I love and care about and to the world through my chosen career paths.

Many may take exception to my post and that is your perogative though I tend to call things as I see them. To me, seeing someone as anything more special than you already thought that they were because they speak of their disability is just another form, though a bit more palitable, of discrimination. It discriminates against the very person who is disabled in a reverse sort of way and discriminates against those without disabilities. I live by this saying, ''I am not my disabilities. I am Hajar''

We aren't exceptional people, though we may be plain old folks doing exceptional things along with the millions of other plain old folks doing exceptional things. MoGA thank you for the compliments and I gratefully accept them as a fellow human being.

Best of All Things in Life!




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