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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 12:03:16 AM   
Smith117


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ORIGINAL: Sasy

Some times it is best to walk away from a conversation before the prejudices you are trying to hide are fully confirmed by  your own words


Enlighten me, please. What prejudices am I trying to hide? And, more importantly, why would I see the need to hide anything from anyone in a message board? Isn't this the medium where I am supposed to be some arrogant lil 18-year-old punk who rattles off nonsense and hatred without fear of repercussion due to the anonymity of the internet?

I think I've stated my stance plain and clear. Nothing I've said is false, nor are any of the remarks I've made supposed to be all-encompassing of "fat people."

I speak from a mixture of personal experience, personal observation and a theorhetical extrapolation based on the same. I made no claims that my answer was the one true answer nor did I say that anyone here was 'wrong' for what they had to say.

So please, what prejudices am I hiding? I'm genuinely curious.

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 12:06:35 AM   
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A persons worth is not to be measured by weight/looks/material goods. A persons worth is measured in how they live their lives and their character. The most beautiful and perfect person in the world can be ugly, if they are ugly inside. Beautiful is a feeling, not a look.


Oh I must agree with this. I've met many girls who I suppose some would, at first glance, consider to be 'average looking' but their attitude and zest made them beautiful beyond words. By the same token, I've seen the stereotypical "hot, legy blonde" lose major beauty points the moment she opened her mouth.

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 12:08:11 AM   
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Now i am going to have to find out what percentage of men have perfect bodies. 


Let me know when you find the answer to that. I'd like to see society as obsessed with men's appearance as it is with women's. It's perfectly acceptable for men to wear sloppy clothes and have bald spots, but heaven forbid if a woman weighs more than one of these guys thinks she should. I think a great comeback would be "I would be happy to discuss my weight with you as soon as you go buy a new wardrobe and get a hair transplant."

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 12:09:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		It really isnt important ... I have  just  lived long enough to  learn to  read between the lines ...

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 12:13:28 AM   
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It really isnt important ... I have  just  lived long enough to  learn to  read between the lines ...


But not long enough to avoid commenting on that which you truly know nothing about.

Perhaps the prejudices here are yours. I've said plainly my stance. And from that plainly worded monoloague, you seem to take some inference that you aren't sharing, and clearly that I did not intend. That's fine, really. Because how I live my life and how I govern myself does not depend on your approval or your understanding.

I don't think I can be any more clear than I already have. And really, anyone who says they're not even a little bit prejudiced about 'something' is lying. The difference here, is that I stated, in great detail, my point of view. I simply make no apologies for it.

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 12:15:19 AM   
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As for me, I will say that more often than not, a person's size doesn't affect me in the least. I have bigger-sized friends and I have tiny friends and I have in-between friends. I will say that I am not phsyicaly or sexually attracted to someone who's fat, but that's something I can conciously control about as much as a person can control what gender they are attracted to or whether they get off looking at high heels. I am how I am. Doesn't mean that I wouldn't have a bigger person as a friend. I do, in fact. I've even dated them, of course that's how I found out where my attractions begin and end.



OK, so I may be reading this wrong, and excuse me... but, are you fucking kidding me?  You have "bigger-sized friends"  What? are they giving out awards for big sized friends?  I have to tell you, your comments smell of something similar to "oh yea, I have friends that are Catholic, or Jewish..... and this makes what you say and who you are OK. 

I got it, I got it... we all have our views on this and I also got that I may be reading this way off... but for the first time in 500 something posts.... you dear smith are the winner!  I let you get under my skin.  Be well
girly



Girly...  I agree ...  with your concept of what is being written. Somethings  just cant be hidden

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 12:16:35 AM   
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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 12:17:08 AM   
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Hmmm ...  Little man syndrome I am guessing ... 


Hmmm, opinionated gash syndrome I am guessing.

I guess your early reply of it not being important was a lie, since it's clearly important enough for you to continue elluding to and making snide comments about.


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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 12:17:49 AM   
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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 12:19:20 AM   
Smith117


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HAH  did you  know if you  click the little hidey  button they go away ?


Heh. Run if you must. I've taken off my mask and stated my, non-popular opinion. Let's see if you have the same guts.

Besides that, you hiding my comments means I don't have to hear your opinion on them either. I guess we both win.


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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 12:27:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		Back to the topic.... I totally get you... I'm a big girl living in a small girl country - i mean like where a size 6 is considered extra large.

I remember when I found out I had hypothyroidism... I was DETERMINED it wasn't gonna get me.  I worked out - HARD... 2 hours of hard cardio a day - 2 tshirts worth, an  hour of weights, and an hour of yoga or pilates six days a week.  PLUS I ate a normal amount of food according to Weight Watchers ... after 4 months, I'd lost 10 pounds!  Ack!  ten flipping pounds... well... sigh... what to do?  I love who I am... I adore my passions... and I ignore people who say mean things to me - they aren't allowed in my life.  I'm healthier than almost all of them...

Not everybody understands... I know I have this condition... I know there are some people who are just not interested in me because of it... but so what?  I'm not interested in people that are a certain other way.... Yeah it sucks, but lots of things in life do. 

So come see me and we'll hike the mountains of the world together - that's what I do.  *shrugs.

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 12:33:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		So far in my  family  we have  4  consectutive  generations with hypothyroidism.. I work on trying to get my 16 year old to  understand she could well have it to in time and learn to  understand she may  now always be the size nine . Mine showed up before my  dads I was diagnosed at 30 my dad wasnt till he was almost 60.  So I am concerned hers will show up earlier than mine. And I dont want  it  to  effect her  like it did me

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 12:40:34 AM   
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None of us do my dear. If we are chiseled and buff, our wieners are shrunk from the steroids. If we are functional there, we are pot bellied. But in our minds .. each of us is perfect.


Awwww... but MMC... you're perfect in my eyes.   and btw.... mmmmm I like a man with a pot belly weeeeeeeeeeee

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 12:41:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		My mother is one of those people. Countless times she has said in a stage whisper 'oh that poor woman, look at her. Poor poor thing' concerning a fat person within sight. It took me a long time to realise much of that was from fear.She fears her own loss of control and views fat people as having no control so it forces her own fears to the forefront. This woman is thin, horribly thin. I think she looks on the edge of repulsive because of it and it totally overshadows her real beauty. When she hugs me or one of my nieces she does the fat-pinch hug. Honest to gods, she puts an arm around my waist and squeezes to see how much excess there is. I avoided her (yeah okay I still avoid her) for years because it hurt and it was exhausting especially since I was never above a size 18 in her sight!!It took me so long to realise it was her own terror about losing control, she is rigid about her food. Ironically she is diabetic. She is 5'10 and weighs 115-120. Far far too skinny. So for those that think only fat folks become diabetic.. not true. She exhausts me. Since the age of 12 I have   tried to avoid meals in her presence 'do you really think you need to eat that piece of yadda-yadda?'. It hurt. Now it makes me sad for her. She has passed down that fear to me but it has gone in a different direction, inwards. Thankfully. I would rather feel disgust at myself than a stranger.

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 12:43:58 AM   
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I find it amusing that there is so much emphasis placed on being thin when, 100-odd years ago, being fat was a status symbol!  Think about it. If you were overweight, you were obviously prosperous because only someone with money could afford so much food. I have even read about Westerner who was in China in the 1850's and caused a street riot; Chinese natives were mobbing the man, because he was over 300 pounds. Their thinking was that if they touched him they would be similarly blessed with good fortune!

So, don't worry. The pendulum will swing back, eventually.


Kisses Feric!   Could you swing it a little faster please.

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 1:22:03 AM   
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so...we're not going to focus on finding me a gf??? i thought u wanted to change the subject :(

dang.


Now, why would you be wanting a GF when there are all these amazing studly swinging dick-type Ubermenschen Domly-Dimmy truck-drivin' drugstore uh...uh...

Never mind. I get it.

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 3:50:18 AM   
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so...we're not going to focus on finding me a gf??? i thought u wanted to change the subject :(

dang.



Well, then You apparently misread my op...My question wasn't "What else can we focus on" it was WHY THE FUCK ARE WE SO OBSESSED WITH WEIGHT. 


Kali

I cant believe you started another fucking Fat thread!!!

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 4:07:46 AM   
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so...we're not going to focus on finding me a gf??? i thought u wanted to change the subject :(

dang.



Hey   I'll help you find a gf for a fee    hehehehehehe

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 4:27:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		Why? Because gluttony is a huge problem that leads to many health and psychological problems. These health and psychological problems cause a burden on society. Gluttony is also a sign of no self discipline, something that is also needed in the world. What we see physically is just a symptom of a society.


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ORIGINAL: Kalista07

This thread is not aimed at one person in particular...Although truth be told there is one poster who i pray to all that is both holy and unholy that they regain their senses long enough to not post on this thread..........
However, i really don't get it? i mean seriously why is everyone obsessed with weight? Please don't misunderstand me, i don't mean their own weight, i mean everyone else's in the free freaking world??!! How many times a week do i come on to this site and see another post about "those damned fat people"?! Why??!!
The only thing i can rationally  figure out is that the people who are "not fat" are somehow afraid we are going to rub off on them?? Is that it??? Or are You afraid we are going to completely lose control and eat You?? i'm really being serious here...
i understand that when i read these threads and walk away offended and hurt at how people (who most of which don't even know me) would judge me, that's my issue...But, i just can not wrap my mind around what they fuck You get out of it? Is it just the whole "ooohhh!! i'm so much better than him or her cause i only weigh a buck oh five bullshit?" Because seriously, that got old for me about ten years ago!!!
More than likely this is the first, last, and only time i will get this real or this honest on a thread on here.... Twelve years ago or so i weighed 140... i thought i was fat, i had always been told i was fat, blah blah blah blah blah...Then i developed this disease...The disease rocked in my opinion...i could lose 8 pounds in a day...heh...The doctor told me at one point (on a Friday) that i was to go out find all the junk food i liked and eat it all, all weekend...Because if i came back on Monday and had lost anymore weight he was going to have to admit me to the hospital.....Well, after they removed my thyroid that all stopped...However, no one in their infinite wisdom saw fit to give me any replacement medications...Not until i gained about 150 pounds......So, now here i set waaaayyy obese, oh yeah, and i have a metabolic disorder....So, the surgeries the "quick fixes" are not even options for me...Especially the lap band one, because eating too much food is not my issue at all....
i eat less than my friend whom i currently live with who's a size fucking 2..... And i walk 2 miles everyday..And i drink tons of water...
i know that..i know i'm doing everything humanly possible to do what i need to do...However, do You think that it makes me feel any better when i see the look people give me when i go into the grocery store??!! Or god forbid a restaurant??!! And don't even get my started on clothes shopping!!!
i just really think there has to be more important things out there that we can focus on besides tearing people down because of the way they look....
Kali


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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 4:46:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		Kali,
this will come off corney, but I am telling you anyway. this is song lyrics.
With all my heart, i sing it to you.


"How could anyone ever tell you
You are anything less than beautiful,
How could anyone ever tell you
You are less than whole.

How could anyone fail to notice
Your love is like a miracle,
How deeply you're connected to my soul"


We love you just the way you are.

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