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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 8:38:59 AM   
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You are very welcome. I should then mention that Reeses peanut butter cups rarely even make it to the house.

Doing my civic duty to help keep the best junk food manufacturers in business, one convert at a time.....



You just HAD to mention Reese's didn't you? You couldn't leave it at cheetos, hmmm? Grrrrrr. You're no daisy. You're no daisy at all!"

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 8:53:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		When I first moved to a big city, I didn't make friend easily. The first holiday when all my acquaintances either invited others to their homes or were invited - and I wasn't - I bought a whole dozen donuts on the way home from church. I sat there, cramming whole donuts in my mouth and sobbing. To this day, despair has a tate - donut and tears. That started my weight gain: I was trying to fill a hole in my life with SOMETHING, and all I could find was food. Unfortunately, food didn't fill that hole, but I kept trying, like trying to fill a sieve with water. Once I gained a sense of who I really am, and showed my confidence in my skills, intelligence, and abilities, I started making real friends. And I learned to love myself no matter what the body looked like. It took me ten years, but at the end of that time I had lost 100 pounds, without even half-trying.

My roommate was model-thin for a while. Then she started getting hit on by men on the street and on the bus. She is totally asexual, and the wolf whistles and "Hey, baby" and other calls bothered her (go figure). So she consciously gained weight until they stopped. Now she sort of regrets that, and she is trying to lose.

Not all overweight people are lazy. Some are desperately lonely. And some see themselves as worthless anyway, so why bother? So instead of labeling all overweight people as "bigfatslobs," why not stop and think that maybe there's a whole lot more than sloth and gluttony going on in their lives.

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 8:56:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		Would you like any other items off my list of occasional forays into utter depravity of horrible foods?

Dingdongs
KFC
Take out pizza, preferably Papa Johns ham and mushroom with extra mushrooms and garlic butter for crust dipping
BBQ Pringles

Or was the Cheetos and Reeses Peanut Butter Cups enough?


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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 8:58:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		I disagree with the premise that "everyone" is obsessed with weight. I don't think people are anymore obsessed with weight than they are with money or sex or prestige.

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 9:00:30 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Would you like any other items off my list of occasional forays into utter depravity of horrible foods?

Dingdongs
KFC
Take out pizza, preferably Papa Johns ham and mushroom with extra mushrooms and garlic butter for crust dipping
BBQ Pringles

Or was the Cheetos and Reeses Peanut Butter Cups enough?



John Pinette (awesomely hilarious comedian) said KFC is the culinary equivelent of crack cocaine. (But it just tastes so damned good!)

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 9:04:35 AM   
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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 9:11:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		i've been considered overweight since i hit puberty and i got bullied something rotten for it at school.  since then, it hasn't been much better, i'm still badly overweight, but it has nothing to do with being lazy or overeating.  i eat plenty of fruit and veggies, though it sometimes kills my food budget and i keep a relatively healthy lifestyle.  aside from the buses to school and back, i tend to walk most places and i swim there times a week.  i also run when i can.

i admit that i'm conscious about my weight and it does affect how i see myself and what others might think about me.  i do however, have some sayings that my mother tells me very often when i'm feeling down about it.  women like me are built for comfort, not for speed.  big women are better at three things than skinny women.  1)  a fella can restaraunt and we're not afraid to order real food instead of nibbling on a lettuce leaf and breadsticks.  2)  we are more fun because we're not constantly trying to compete with skinny women for attention.  3)  we're better in bed because we're concentrating on what we're doing and not what we look like doing it.

this isn't a dig at thin people by the way, this is just to say that being big is not always bad

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 9:11:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		5% is thin? i dunno but i doubt it is even that high.  especially in adults.  i very RARELY see an adult who is height/weight prop.  regardless if it is male or female.

in fact the only thin people i see around here anyway are people under 21.  more so people who are under 16.  but even they are now gaining more weight.

it is human nature to eat...eat...and eat.  we like our junk food.  we like our beer. (well i dont but most do) ..what does this mean? bigger bodies.

and i need to use my bbq sauce at some point so meaty women are fine with me!



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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 9:22:18 AM   
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girly,
LMFAO at the whole BMI bullshit thing...My bestfriend/roommate who's all of maybe a size 2 came home from the gym whining last night about how high her BMI is...Now, i've seen this woman naked (repeatedly) and there's maybe 4 inches of fat on her entire body....i was simply like WTF ever..
And i hear ya about clothes shopping..i hate it...grrrr...


BMI is not solely based upon fat tissue. It is regarding total body mass. My BMI looks like I should weigh 300 pounds though I don't. It takes into account height along with things like dense and heavy bones (this is not what being called big boned is) which a small framed person can have and it also accounts muscle weight. Until I became a research guinea pig at age 19, I had no knowledge of BMI. I do have very heavy and thick bones though I am what people would call farily small boned. I also have a great deal of muscle weight. A BMI has little to do with how someone looks. In order to find true ''fat values'' for a person, they need to be in a float tank for that. So, someone can be quite small, as far as the look or lack thereof of fat, yet still have a fairly high BMI should they have the more heavy bones and muscles. BMI has very little to do with how fat someone is.

I also hope those getting their BMI are not using the scales in stores which claim to be able to calculate BMI or heaven forbid, at some of the online BMI calculators. You really need a doc who knows you and your body type who can calculate in a minute or so. These other things don't know you and work with averages which not everyone holds true to.


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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 9:50:38 AM   
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I've not seen anyone ask for pity. Unless you count 'compassion' or 'understanding' as pity?


I refer to the title, obsession with weight.

Maybe if the obsession was directed to another area in one's life the circle of loss/gain would cease. I don't refer to anyone in particular in need of pity, yet I know many a complainer about their weight.  They didn't get that way by merely breathing.


Well flipping fuck, I did! But you go right ahead and look into the published information on my disorder, which by the way still has no name after 25 years of reasearch though has a laboratory ''working title,'' (psuedoacromegaly) and the only person you will find there is me. New England Journal of Medicine (for those in the US) circa 1984-1991. I am also in most of the world's medical literature.

Get a grip.

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 9:56:46 AM   
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Granted not everyone is obsessed with weight though you do have to admit that a large portion of the population are obsessed. For us who are either carrying  extra pounds, we are constantly bombarded through print media, television, fashion industry over the fact that having this extra weight is a big no-no.
I live in Canada and here this issue has been one of the top issues which Health Canada is taking measures to combat what they consider a major problem. What I find is too many people who fail to realized ALL the circumstances which contributes to a person being over weight. There are psychological reasons, health issues to cause a person to gain weight, low metabolism, and the list goes on.
Granted we who are over weight may and do desire to be thinner, unfortunately we struggle with this on top of trying to maintain a decent self image about ourselves. I know what I am saying as I too , fight with my weight and with my demons about self image. Over the course of a year, my weight will yo yo 5-30 lbs. If I am able to keep my weight stabilized to approx 5-8 lbs above my supposed ideal weight I am somewhat happy. Irregardless if a person is 20 lbs overweight or 100, the issues we face are still the same.
It is too bad that many refuse to see past the physical image and see the actual person inside.


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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 9:58:54 AM   
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My point is that it is a learned behavior. We are taught by the media, our peers, and our parents to dislike and fear the overweight.

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 10:00:08 AM   
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this will come off corney, but I am telling you anyway. this is song lyrics.
With all my heart, i sing it to you.


"How could anyone ever tell you
You are anything less than beautiful,
How could anyone ever tell you
You are less than whole.

How could anyone fail to notice
Your love is like a miracle,
How deeply you're connected to my soul"


We love you just the way you are.


Great lyrics Luscious.

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 10:05:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		I know. I'm also hypothyroid.  My T-3 cells read abnormal and my metabolism reads at 20% that of a normal person and I go to an endocronologist to work on it to get the Synthroid to go through my body normally. It sucks, to meet with the predjudice, even though I do eat normally and my exercise keeps me with an hourglass shape.  I've had this my entire life and all I can say is that it gets easier the older you get.  You just do what's best for you, you work on yourself and ignore the idiots who don't realize what you're eating, how much you're exercising: it's none of their business and they're simply ignorant.  Daily scientists are uncovering genes for this and other causes but will it stop the predjudice?  Doubtful, until we as a society look at abhorrance when someone slams fat people the same way we do when people who use racial slurs, for instance.  As our society gets educated about wellness, perhaps that day will come.

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 10:20:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		Why? Because gluttony is a huge problem that leads to many health and psychological problems. These health and psychological problems cause a burden on society. Gluttony is also a sign of no self discipline, something that is also needed in the world. What we see physically is just a symptom of a society.

Orion,
So in essence, if i'm reading this correctly what You are telling me is that i have issues with gluttony and that's why i'm so over weight?  So, because i'm over weight i also have issues of no self discipline, huh? Funny.... Every other area of my life reeks of self discipline except for this one..Which is not to say that i don't have self discipline, but is to say no amount of self discipline is going to change my metabolism....Hell, it's only been within the last two or three years that they've figured out that i in fact needed two different thyroid medications (one to treat my T3 and on to treat my T4) so i've been able to stop gaining freaking weight...Self discipline? Pshht!! Please....




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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 10:27:13 AM   
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You can tell a lot about a person from the condition of their body. Diet, disapline, focus, vanity, morals, and laziness these are the things that shape our bodies.


Really?? What exactly is it that You can tell about me then? That i'm lazy, unfocused, have no morals?? Because i'm fat??!! That is the most ridiculous thing i've heard all year!!

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I find the largest problem of all is simply people are lazy, now I know a lot of people will use the excuse "I'm fat because of medical problems." and I know Im going to sound like a dick for saying this but, SO WHAT?

huh....really???  And Your point here is what? That i should be condemned to some abandoned island because i'm fat and there's not a freaking thing in this world i can do about it currently? How does that even make sense in Your mind? i've got Your so what for ya...So what? So, back the fuck off dude...Do You people really think we need any help judging ourselves?? i mean seriously..

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Todays people just want a quick fix to their problems because they are to lazy to fix it themsleves. Look at all the Fat-be-Gone Pills, the Plastic surgery ads, and the stomach stapleing comercials. If you really want something you have to work for it.

Damn!!! You found me out...The two miles i walk every day, they are just for kicks and giggles.....If i wanted a quick fix i'd be doing the surgery thing...

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ORIGINAL: joanus
How? Eat better, or just put down the fork all together. (J/K) A green apple has more energy for your body than a cup of coffee. Stop smoking, nicatine slows down your bodies motabolisim. heavy drinking up sets the liver therefor not allowing full filtration of your blood ending in you packing on pounds easier. walk 30 mins a day. Do a situp or two, it will not kill you.

This is such utter bullshit i should not even respond to it....However, i apparently lack enough 'self discipline' according to other posters to control myself....Soooooooooooo...Get a freaking grip!! Do You know how much coffee i drink or pop??? Do You know how much i smoke?? Yeah, that's right..Zero to both!!! Put down the fork all together? Huh...Ya think? Oh weight, i tried that when i didn't eat for 12 days......damn didn't do a freaking thing for me..



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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 10:28:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		I seriously doubt you can tell the morals of a person by their weight and their body. Just whay do you propose are the morals of a fat person, that their easy. or they fuck anything that walks, or that they have no morals?

Versus what a perfect skinny person who is easy or would fuck anything that walks an had no morals?

Lazyness to some extent yeah ok somepeople are fat cause they're lazy, I'll be the first to say yup that's me I am lazy. Cause I am. How about the women who work so hard to loose weight  and so much and they eat right, an it's almost to an unhealthy point. They're not lazy and they're not any of the other stero types, so you can not lump them into any of the statements below

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You can tell a lot about a person from the condition of their body. Diet, disapline, focus, vanity, morals, and laziness these are the things that shape our bodies.

How? Eat better,  walk 30 mins a day.

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 10:34:38 AM   
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Yesterday, I was reading the news and I found that some moron in Jackson, Mississippi. Thinks he can get a bill passed that would ban Obese people from going into restaurants. I would give anything for 15 minutes alone with this idiot. I'd even put on my combat boots.


Was it from going into the restaurant or from ordering fattening food? i heard of one man who was trying that w/his place, refusing to serve his version of obese customers food that was "bad for them" all in the interest of helping their weight.

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 10:50:12 AM   
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I find the largest problem of all is simply people are lazy, now I know a lot of people will use the excuse "I'm fat because of medical problems." and I know Im going to sound like a dick for saying this but, SO WHAT?

Your words, not mine

I found my self reading a medical diagnosis book while sitting in a doctors waiting room. One questionaire peaked my curiousity. "Are You Bi-Polar" after answering the question are I looked at the end result which said " if any of these aply to you, you may be bi-polar." In my opinion Magnets are bi-polar, people just have aditude problems. The point to bringing this up is that any one of the questions could aply to anybody.

Umm...not really.  How fortunate for you that you've never had to struggle with mental illness yourself or known someone who does. 



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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 11:09:56 AM   
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Here's something esle i don't comprehend.... Many medical professionals will tell you the best long term weight loss solution is to follow a program such as weight watchers....However, will my insurance cover it? No.... So, then (in the past) i was left to make my own good food decisions.... {Which is about to prove my theory that people who state we all know how to eat well are full of shit} which would be chicken and rice...Only...Because those were the only two healthy foods i knew... And then there's the whole concept of the doctor telling You to exercise...But will an insurance company assist you in paying for that? No...Despite the fact that in the end it would probably highly reduce their premiums......
*Laughing now* Oddly, enough my doctor doesn't say any of these things to me anymore..She asks me how many times a day i'm eating and how much i'm walking...


I agree wholeheartedly that I am judged by my weight by others.  I do the best I can to stay healthy.  Yes you can be healthy without being thin and unhealthy when thin.  I am lucky to live in a place where my insurance does financially reward me for certain exercise programs.  I also belong to a CSA (community sustained agriculture) which offers financial help for low-income.  So instead of $800 for 40 weeks of fresh organic seasonal produce, it is only $400.  Bonus of helping local farmers exist.  This is a community driven program to help others afford to eat healthier. 

So to those so inclined go ahead and judge me.  However you do not know me, my lifestyle, my diet, my activity level, my health, etc.  I however will not judge you because that is the type of human being I am.  Nothing good comes from such an attitude. 


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