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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 11:32:34 AM

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We all want to look as good as possible without doing the work required.

Ladies it's not your fault...Why would you to be to blame for your own appearance? It all lies at the feet of cortisol.

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 11:42:12 AM

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I like Jewels song I am sensitive. Some parts of It, it reminds me of these threads very very much.

It doesn't take a talent to be mean.
Your words can crush things that are unseen.

I have this theory, that if we're told we're bad
Then that's the only idea we'll ever have.

'Cause anyone can start a conflict;
It's harder yet to disregard it.
I'd rather see the world from another angle.

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 11:42:59 AM

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domiguy...........domiguy.............domiguy............. *sigh*
What on earth made You think this was simply about "getting dick" for me?? For the record, it's not about getting dick or ass or any other part of the human body...It's about the way people treat me...It's about the looks of disgust, the things they mutter "under their breath" although mysteriously loud enough for me to hear, it's about the way a person is judged by their weight...i guess i didn't get a copy of the weight to worth equivalancy (sp) scale...Damn it domiguy, can i borrow yours?

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 11:48:06 AM

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domiguy...........domiguy.............domiguy............. *sigh*
What on earth made You think this was simply about "getting dick" for me?? For the record, it's not about getting dick or ass or any other part of the human body...It's about the way people treat me...It's about the looks of disgust, the things they mutter "under their breath" although mysteriously loud enough for me to hear, it's about the way a person is judged by their weight...i guess i didn't get a copy of the weight to worth equivalancy (sp) scale...Damn it domiguy, can i borrow yours?

Is it just me, or does anyone else hear the voice of Eddie Griffin when domiguy speaks? I think it's because of his avatar but every time I see a post of his, I can't help but picture Eddie Griffin saying it. It actually doubles the comedic value of it.

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 11:51:00 AM

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.... i really don't get it? i mean seriously why is everyone obsessed with weight? Please don't misunderstand me, i don't mean their own weight, i mean everyone else's in the free freaking world??!! How many times a week do i come on to this site and see another post about "those damned fat people"?! Why??!!
Kali

Heya Kali *S*. I saw mention of this elsewhere, came, read, and pondered a wee bit. Brace yourself for my two cents *W*.

We often fear that which we do not understand. We also tend to hate what we fear. So, people do not understand the myriad reasons and countless permutations that make up all the possible body shapes and sizes out there. Here in North America, the societal ideal that the media shoves at us is one specific body type (I speak of female body types because I am female, so I am a wee bit more familiar with them than male bodies), that being small of frame and pared down of any extra body fat at all. I am not saying that all people buy into that, but there are far too many vidiots out there who do not question what is being shovelled into their brains via their eyes on a daily basis. So when these unwashed masses see a person who is too far removed from that ideal image, they recoil, they reject it without thinking, and they react instead of responding. Keep in mind that a severely underweight body is much closer to the projected ideal image than a severely overweight body, so it is not demonized in the same manner.

Ultimately, Kali, we don't get to control what others think of us. That sucks, but it is true. It is exhausting to try to live up to everyone's expectations, especially when their expectations are based on their issues, not yours. I think perhaps what you wish for is the same thing many of us wish for in many regards to how others in our worlds treat us : some respect, some courtesy, and some form of self-restraint when it comes to telling others how to live their lives. Sadly, we do not live in that world, we live in this one. So, while we cannot control what anyone else does or says, we can control how we respond to such things. We seek love, we seek acceptance, and it hurts when one is not accepted on the most basic level as a human with the right to be on this planet, or loved simply because we exist.

You and I both know there are people who love each of us, regarldess of size, shape, height, skin colour, age, or anything other factor one wants to toss into the mix. Choose to seek out those who uplift you, and choose to leave the rest to their own designs. Choose to care for yourself, love yourself. Choose to be as kind to yourself as you can. Most importantly, choose to try to be happy. Life is far too short to listen to the angry voices that try to beat you down.

In my opinion, you are a wonderful addition to this planet, simply because you often make me smile when I read your words. You touch others' worlds, just by being you. That, Kali, is pretty damn wonderful *S*.

All done now.

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 12:02:35 PM

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quick,
Thank you sooo much for your positive words and encouragment... About 12 years ago i learned a very valuable lesson, which it appears i may have forgotten somehow... That what other people think about me or say about me is none of my business.....Thanks, because somehow i forgot that.......

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 12:10:26 PM

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Any time. Just remember, there are a bunch of perverted folks hanging around here who like and enjoy your presence very much. And Kali? It is okay if you forget. We are here to remind you, you wonderful person you!

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 12:36:28 PM

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So many thoughts running through my head so excuse the segues that don't flow with one another.

I am one of those people that had eating disorders in the past which has made keeping a healthy weight damned near impossible for me now. I work out, I eat only non-processed foods and I think I have fat content of the entire grocery store memorized. I don't obsess so much about the number on the scale, but how I feel and how I look and maintaining a balance between enjoying life now and keeping healthy to enjoy life later. Because of my past I have gotten very good at almost always reaching inside for self validation especially when I'm not feeling that my physical appearance or health is where I want it to be.

Once I was talking about a beautiful woman who I worked with, Queen Latifa and a few others BBWs that I admire for the way they display confidence and I mentioned that I wished I was one of these women who appeared to be so comfortable in their own skin. The reply from my friend was that I appear to others to be just what these women desplay.

Another time a friend was on one of her frequent "everybody hates me because I'm fat" tirades and I, not being in a particularly sympathetic mood that day asked her why we had such dissimilar experiences. We are the same size but she experiences prejudice, discrimination, bullying and out and out hostility. She has had people tell her that she shouldn't eat "X" as it was unhealthy and would cause her to remain fat. This type of behavior from others is totally alien to me, I've either never had someone blatently discount me because of my size or I simply don't notice it. Her response to me was that I am confident and that makes me beautiful.

I've also held on to the memory of a friend who I'd party with some 20 years ago, she was an amazon compared to what I was, she was tall and large but she drew people to her and was never longing for companionship. I think that she might have been my first lesson that attitude makes an attractive person more often then genetics do.

Anyway, I can't make people stop being mean, I would if I could as I wish my friend never had another humiliating story to tell me. But I also remember my father telling me that nobody could hurt me unless I gave them the power to do so, I guess that somewhere in my past I figured out how to keep that power for myself and if I ever figure out how, I'd willingly share.

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 2:17:00 PM

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ORIGINAL: Kalista07

domiguy...........domiguy.............domiguy............. *sigh*
What on earth made You think this was simply about "getting dick" for me?? For the record, it's not about getting dick or ass or any other part of the human body...It's about the way people treat me...It's about the looks of disgust, the things they mutter "under their breath" although mysteriously loud enough for me to hear, it's about the way a person is judged by their weight...i guess i didn't get a copy of the weight to worth equivalancy (sp) scale...Damn it domiguy, can i borrow yours?

kalista.........kalista......kalista......kalista.......*sigh*

Did you really think that my post was directed at you?....Although I can understand that you might, it was really just me talking aloud...Not directed at anyone in particular...But directed at anyone who would care to read it and is suffering from -a nasty little stress hormone- called cortisol.

Consider it to be nothing more than a little CM infomercial.....Relacore is not for everyone consult your doctor before taking Relacore......

Side affects of taking Relacore.
Vaginal itching, chaffing and discharge. Mood swings. Being a bigger bitch than normal. Excessive and embarassing facial hair. Halitosis. Explosive diarrhea. Obnoxious gas. Projectile vomiting.....And an all inclusive all expenses paid free round-trip to Gor.

If you experience any of the above symptoms combined with a desire to only do it missionary...Consult yor physician immediately.

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 2:33:46 PM

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Is it just me, or does anyone else hear the voice of Eddie Griffin when domiguy speaks? I think it's because of his avatar but every time I see a post of his, I can't help but picture Eddie Griffin saying it. It actually doubles the comedic value of it.

Eddie Griffin? Why Eddie Griffin...Other than the fact that all black people look alike?

You think I'm here to entertain you? But I'm funny how? I mean, funny like I'm a clown? I amuse you? I make you laugh? I'm here to fuckin amuse you? What do you mean, funny? Funny how? How am I funny?? ... How the fuck am I funny? What the fuck is so funny about me? Tell me! Tell me what's so funny!!

I Don't Give A Fuck lyrics

Artist - 2pac
Album - 2Pacalypse Now
Lyrics - I Don't Give A Fuck

I gotta give my fuck offs

Fuck you to the San FranCisco police department
Fuck you to the Marin County Sheriff department
Fuck you to the F.B.I
Fuck you to the C.I.A
Fuck you to the B-u-s-h
Fuck you to the AmeriKKKa
Fuck you to all you redneck prejudice mutha fuckas
And fuck yah
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2paclypse mutha fuckin' know
Y'all can kiss my ass and suck my dick
And my uncle Tommy's balls
Fuck Y'all
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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 2:39:00 PM

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 4:40:50 PM

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That is bullshit. Gluttony, whether it is mine or someone elses, needs to be addressed. I am not a perfect ten, but I am also not a fat ass either. Your comments are strawman bullshit, address the gluttony where ever it is. What does bald or receding hairlines have to do with gluttony? Nothing, they are bullshit slung to avoid the issue.

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Why? Because gluttony is a huge problem that leads to many health and psychological problems. These health and psychological problems cause a burden on society. Gluttony is also a sign of no self discipline, something that is also needed in the world. What we see physically is just a symptom of a society.

I assume you're a perfect 10 with a wardrobe of the latest fashion and no bald spots or receeding hairline. If not, you shouldn't be talking about gluttony until you fix your own appearance.

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 4:41:57 PM

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Like I've said before, when I go out for a walk or bike riding or to the gym I rarely see fat people walking, biking or gyming.
When I go to the Chinese all you can eat buffet I always see fat people.
Maybe they go down to the beach and jog it off unbeknownst to me.
One thing though, should you really be at an all you can eat buffet if you're overweight by that much?

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 4:43:41 PM

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More bullshit. People can cut down on food intake and increase activity to effect their weight, which is what I did when I was overweight. Gluttony causes health issues. Someone can be ideal weight and still be ugly. Your defensiveness states volumes about your issues.

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How does baldness equate with gluttony?

If women get negative remarks about their weight, men that treat women this way should get negative comments about their wardrobe and baldness. Look at all the surgeries women have just to get as close as they can to society's image of a perfect body. Compare that to the number of men that actually have hair transplants. No balding man should ever make nasty comments about a woman's weight. If they don't look perfect, they need to shut up until they do.

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 4:52:06 PM

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Gluttony isn't the only cause of being overweight.... I swear people stereotype the shit out of people who have weight issues. I spent seven months on a drug called prednisone. Between that and the fact that on my parents side genetically there is a predisposition to be fat. What I resent the most is how much damage the prednisone did to my metabolism in the process of saving my life.

Now that I'm single and trying to get out again and meet others, I'm discovering there is a lot of those who drop a converation like a hot potato when they realize one is big. Whatever happen to looking at the over all package, seeing who is inside the body they have already passed judgement over. We need love too! We need friends too! We need to be ok just being us!
k

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 4:55:13 PM

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Facts are facts, and when I was overweight I had to face them as well. You get no sugar coating with me. If your intake was lower, and your activity higher, unless you have a true medical condition that prevents it, then you do not accumulate excess weight.

Yes, yes, people can come up with all kinds of exceptions and excuses, but how many reasons can you come up with to succeed? If you have a true medical condition, then you need to rip the shit out of those that say they do, when in fact they do not. I had a roommate that used the medical condition line all the time, and the fact is she was just lazy.

Just because you may be an exception, does not mean an exception should be made for fat assess that have no medical condition, other than psychological laziness.

Having self discipline in all other areas of your life, does not mean that you do not have a weakness. If you did not want honest opinion, then do not ask the questions.

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Why? Because gluttony is a huge problem that leads to many health and psychological problems. These health and psychological problems cause a burden on society. Gluttony is also a sign of no self discipline, something that is also needed in the world. What we see physically is just a symptom of a society.

Orion,
So in essence, if i'm reading this correctly what You are telling me is that i have issues with gluttony and that's why i'm so over weight? So, because i'm over weight i also have issues of no self discipline, huh? Funny.... Every other area of my life reeks of self discipline except for this one..Which is not to say that i don't have self discipline, but is to say no amount of self discipline is going to change my metabolism....Hell, it's only been within the last two or three years that they've figured out that i in fact needed two different thyroid medications (one to treat my T3 and on to treat my T4) so i've been able to stop gaining freaking weight...Self discipline? Pshht!! Please....

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 4:57:12 PM

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It is called a "mean standard", not a stereotype. Look at the data.

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Gluttony isn't the only cause of being overweight.... I swear people stereotype the shit out of people who have weight issues. I spent seven months on a drug called prednisone. Between that and the fact that on my parents side genetically there is a predisposition to be fat. What I resent the most is how much damage the prednisone did to my metabolism in the process of saving my life.

Now that I'm single and trying to get out again and meet others, I'm discovering there is a lot of those who drop a converation like a hot potato when they realize one is big. Whatever happen to looking at the over all package, seeing who is inside the body they have already passed judgement over. We need love too! We need friends too! We need to be ok just being us!
k

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 5:00:47 PM

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However, since we, as a country have collectively gotten progressively lazier and more fast-food inclined, the number of larger people is growing astromically.

The so-called "obesity epidemic" leveled off in 2000. Too bad so few have looked at the stats in the last 7 years or so.

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 5:03:24 PM

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Really?

"Overweight is a serious health concern for children and adolescents. Data from two NHANES surveys (1976–1980 and 2003–2004) show that the prevalence of overweight is increasing: for children aged 2–5 years, prevalence increased from 5.0% to 13.9%; for those aged 6–11 years, prevalence increased from 6.5% to 18.8%; and for those aged 12–19 years, prevalence increased from 5.0% to 17.4%. "

http://www.cdc.gov/nccdphp/dnpa/obesity/trend/index.htm

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However, since we, as a country have collectively gotten progressively lazier and more fast-food inclined, the number of larger people is growing astromically.

The so-called "obesity epidemic" leveled off in 2000. Too bad so few have looked at the stats in the last 7 years or so.

thornhappy

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 5:05:10 PM

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Orion,
i believe i have stated on this thread, repeatedly, and elsewhere that my weight is in fact a direct result of the doctor's lack of acting in my best interest by not placing me on a medication to correct the fact that they had removed my thyroid.... i'm offended by the accusation that it's simply a matter of gluttony or laziness on my part... Mostly because yes, in addition to not having a thyroid i also have a metabolic disorder...Which means, that despite the fact that i eat half (if even that) what my room mate does (who's a size 2) and work out twice as much as she does i don't lose any weight....
Furthermore, i don't believe i asked for an "honest opinion" of Your assesment of my values or worth as a human being...i believe my question was more about why are we as a society obsessed with weight......
Kali

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