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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 8:34:39 PM

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Only 5% of women naturally have what is considered the perfect body.

It's probably more like .5%.

It's a strange thing about our society. Americans are somewhat more overweight than people in most industrialized nations, yet we have a beauty ideal that is so thin that it is unhealthy for most and almost impossible to achieve.

I am fat compared to 90% of celebs, at least. I am 100 lbs and a size 0 in dresses and a double 0 in pants in some stores. And I am not kidding. I know what I look like naked in the mirror and I am plain fat compared to celebs which are idolzed. And I am not talking about absurd runway models. I am talking about celebs that the media calls 'curvy'. Salma Hayek is supposedly 5'1" and 95 lbs. Adriana Lima, who is a victoria secret model, is 5'10" and 112 lbs- understand that one has to be far curvier than a fashion runway model to be a lingerie model in a catalogue.

Society just sets itself up for failure when idolizing women who they will never be or never have.

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 8:45:20 PM

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 8:48:07 PM

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You can come up with many reasons to not succeed, but the question is, how many reasons can you come up with to succeed?

Orion,
i've given Your post a great deal of thought.. Despite the antagonistic approach i do get what You are saying...One time last year i watched Oprah...i was so freaking livid afterwards, because here were all these 400 -600 pound people (previously) on there who would indulge in behaviors such as buying a whole wedding cake and eating it, etc. etc. etc. The thing that i must confess pissed me off the most was the fact that once they stopped eating this way, they lost weight...And then they began to work out some... Some!!! WTF!!!?? It was at that point that He and i agreed i needed to get rid of the scale completly.....

Yeah I am pretty blunt and in your face kind of person, but it is nothing personal, it is just me. The scale was my worst enemy when I was losing weight, so I got rid of it as well. I literally would cut my portions in half. At a restaurant I asked for a seperate plate, and before eating I took half of it off and gave it back. I started eating 6-8 times a day, but much smaller portions (half the time just a piece of fruit). I stopped eating after a certain time at night. I then started walking three miles a day and added an extra half mile every two weeks there after. I stopped eating red meat, and only ate meat about twice a month, then only white meat or seafood. Every person is different and will need to find what works for them, but the point is to keep at it and don't quit.

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Honestly Orion, i can not come up with any freaking reasons not to succeed...But, i can come up with plenty to succeed...However, here's the deal for me...What's Your definition of success? Because mine (currently...subject to change moment by moment) is to feel okay inside my own skin... To be able to walk a couple miles without losing my breath and to be able to have a respectful (not fearful) relationship with food...
Could just be me though

I think this is a great start. Set realistic goals, achieve them, and then use that success to move the bar higher. After a while it becomes learned behavior. What do I determine success? That would be when you are out of the danger zone according to either weight, BMI, or a combination of both. Measures of that success along the way would be when you can do more physically without getting tired, when you can get better sleep, when your blood sugar stays out of the pre diabetic range, resting and exercising heart rate improves, and blood pressure improves.

As you meet each of these goals along the way, and you succeed, then use that as momentum for the next. The only way you can fail is to give up or not give it your all. I understand their are factors that cause a persons metabolism to slow down, but I had a few of these factors as well. It was up to me to use them to not succeed, or admit that I needed to put more effort into it.

I used to live to eat, and in the process of losing weight (and the introspective stage I was at in life), I changed my thoughts to now, where I eat to live. I have to be careful because I developed a mental block to hunger signs, and when busy I may skip meals. Then in the afternoon as my blood sugar drops I wonder why I cannot concentrate, and sometimes see pretty orange/red dots at the edges of my vision. I mention this because you can condition yourself too much the other way.

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 8:52:57 PM

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Did your BMI go down any though? When working out, as muscle is built and fat burns, you often see a weight gain in the beginning. Also, do not starve yourself or your body switches to starvation mode. Eat all that shit I hate, like fruits and veggies. I look at salads as medicine, because I do not like alot of veggies but I realize, especially as I get older, that I need to eat healthier. To help with energy levels and flexibility, try Tai Chi. I have been doing Tai Chi for about 9 years now, and though I need to get back on a regular schedule, it helped alot with full body health, and state of mind.

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It's like seeing an alcoholic in a bar room.
And they'll argue with you all night long that they're not alcoholic. ("Filler up Joe")

Popeye, correct me if i'm wrong but isn't the goal of most alcoholics some kind of abstinence? (Be it sobriety, recovery, not drinking, etc?) Can You explain to me in Your infinite wisdom how the hell that would even work with food? Because i'll tell ya the truth...Those 12 days that i didn't eat anything i was working out...i walked two and a half miles every evening and i worked out for two hours in the morning at the gym...The end of those 12 days? i gained 10 or 15 pounds..

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 9:09:03 PM

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Couple of comments in this:

Hard to accept comments from a Political Scientist and Law Professor on this subject.

Standards were changed in these newer studies and only this group claims they are more acurate, it needs peer review.

The biggest things this article seems to address is that the problems with obeisity were not presented properly to the public.

I agree that just dieting does not correct the problem. You need to change how you eat, and eat a more balanced diet.

The article does finally say at the very end, after trying to prove other claims wrong, that better diet makes for a healthier person.

Their main focus seemed to be on disproving that type 2 diabetes is often caused by obesity. What about other health issues that it causes that are undisputed?

Just get healthier and alot of the rest will start to take care of itself. In all of this, esteem issues need to be addressed in the individual, which often is what started the problems.

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Check this Scientific American article out, it has a lot of data about the impact of obesity:
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=000E5065-2345-128A-9E1583414B7F0000&page=1

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ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf

Really?

"Overweight is a serious health concern for children and adolescents. Data from two NHANES surveys (1976–1980 and 2003–2004) show that the prevalence of overweight is increasing: for children aged 2–5 years, prevalence increased from 5.0% to 13.9%; for those aged 6–11 years, prevalence increased from 6.5% to 18.8%; and for those aged 12–19 years, prevalence increased from 5.0% to 17.4%. "

http://www.cdc.gov/nccdphp/dnpa/obesity/trend/index.htm

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ORIGINAL: Smith117
However, since we, as a country have collectively gotten progressively lazier and more fast-food inclined, the number of larger people is growing astromically.

The so-called "obesity epidemic" leveled off in 2000. Too bad so few have looked at the stats in the last 7 years or so.

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 9:12:53 PM

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I'm not obsessed with weight. It's just a preference of mine to have some cushion for the pushin.

As for my weight, I only care about being able to fit into expensive slacks and suits. I hate the idea of lossing money on things that I'll never wear again because my gut got a little to big.

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 9:33:50 PM

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If you're overweight you're not a "victim." You need to make some choices and decisions like an alcoholic does. "But I have a "medical condition"; so do alcoholics, deal with it.
You continue that behaviour of drinking (or eating) and you'll die sooner than you should.
I don't see a lot of drunks out walking biking or at the gym either.
But if I were to go into the dew drop in I know I would.
Just an observation, I'm not judging them either.

I most definitely have to disagree here. For one, you're comparing apples and oranges when it comes to medical reasons for being overweight with that of alcoholism or any type of substance addiction. I could expound upon the distinctions, but since this thread is more about being overweight (with a heavy focus on medical reasons), I'll try and stay on track with the subject at hand.

In my personal case, like many of the others here, I have hypothyroidism. At the end of 2006, my thyroid went kaputs, and over a period of about 6 months, I gained large amounts of weight due to chemical reasons, not due to a lack of control as you seem to suggest. Previously, I had a metabolism that was the envy of most people I knew. I was in fantastic physical shape (great muscle definition, tone, and excellent stamina and endurance).

I went into the doctor, had a bunch of bloodwork and tests done, and was put on medication for it. I still worked out continuously and gained weight. Since I was still gaining weight, I also decided to modify my (what was my pre-thyroid, never-gaining-a-pound no matter what I ate) eating habits. I would eat salads (no dressing), lots of fruits and vegetables and still gained weight. It beggared belief how I could possibly gain 5 to 10 pounds from eating salad.

At the height of my weight gain, I was still in very good shape even though I was now fat. I could still run, hike and bike for hours (without getting sore or tired). Physically, I was still in great shape. My muscles and everything were still there... just covered under all of the weight that had accumulated around them. It was as though I had put on one of those blown-up sumo wrestler costumes, and just couldn't take it off again.

Other people just didn't get it. They could not comprehend that a person could be physically active, eat sensible and healthy food, and still gain enormous amounts of weight. The assumption was that I couldn't control my eating, or that I was being lazy... that it was due to personal bad life choices. I don't blame them, until it happened to me, I didn't even think that was humanly possible.

I got lots of advice to not be a glutton and to exercise more... this from people who had known me all my life (meanwhile they're eating a huge fried meal while I was eating a salad). We could go out and have a full day of activity and exercise, and they were the ones who were winded or sore the next day.

Unlike what you say in your post, it had nothing to do with my personal behaviour. I literally had no control over it. None. The only thing that finally helped was getting the correct medication (after lots of trial and error, and tests... I get tested every month now, and my medication still gets adjusted due to the results). Weight and muscle definition wise, I am now finally back to where I was before my thyroid went. If it wasn't for the right combination of medication I would still be overweight. I know that nothing I could do could have reversed that. It was chemical and had nothing to do with my personal choices or behaviours.

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 9:53:06 PM

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Excess skin is why it still looks like I have a slight roll. The stretch marks are still there. I can hike, exercise and do alot more now. I am at less risk of heart disease, hypertension, diabetes, etc. I eat in moderation until I am no longer hungry (occasionally until full if it is a great meal). I drink plenty of water. I stay away from the sodas. I eat more fruits and veggies (though I could stand to eat more).

Your advice to not lose weight until you can do something about the cosmetics, shows that you only look at it from a cosmetic point. I am talking about being as healthy as you can be, and moderation. It seems that you just want to ignore a problem as a solution, and if you want you can, but to advise others to is dangerous.

You can come up with many reasons to not succeed, but the question is, how many reasons can you come up with to succeed?

I can come up with plenty of reasons to succeed. I'll feel better, have more energy, look good in a bikini, and be more attractive. As far as advising others to wait, I suppose you have a point, but who wants to work hard for a year to get in shape only to continue being insulted about weight? Who's going to see the sculpted body beneath the excess skin? That's enough to make some people stop caring about their weight permanently. If someone loses weight when they can afford surgery, they will see the result they deserve to see after all the hard work of getting the weight off. I'm not saying people shouldn't lose weight. I'm saying I think losing weight should be a positive experience, not a disappointing one.

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 10:17:55 PM

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ORIGINAL: Nats

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If you're overweight you're not a "victim." You need to make some choices and decisions like an alcoholic does. "But I have a "medical condition"; so do alcoholics, deal with it.
You continue that behaviour of drinking (or eating) and you'll die sooner than you should.
I don't see a lot of drunks out walking biking or at the gym either.
But if I were to go into the dew drop in I know I would.
Just an observation, I'm not judging them either.

I most definitely have to disagree here. For one, you're comparing apples and oranges when it comes to medical reasons for being overweight with that of alcoholism or any type of substance addiction. I could expound upon the distinctions, but since this thread is more about being overweight (with a heavy focus on medical reasons), I'll try and stay on track with the subject at hand.

In my personal case, like many of the others here, I have hypothyroidism. At the end of 2006, my thyroid went kaputs, and over a period of about 6 months, I gained large amounts of weight due to chemical reasons, not due to a lack of control as you seem to suggest. Previously, I had a metabolism that was the envy of most people I knew. I was in fantastic physical shape (great muscle definition, tone, and excellent stamina and endurance).

I went into the doctor, had a bunch of bloodwork and tests done, and was put on medication for it. I still worked out continuously and gained weight. Since I was still gaining weight, I also decided to modify my (what was my pre-thyroid, never-gaining-a-pound no matter what I ate) eating habits. I would eat salads (no dressing), lots of fruits and vegetables and still gained weight. It beggared belief how I could possibly gain 5 to 10 pounds from eating salad.

At the height of my weight gain, I was still in very good shape even though I was now fat. I could still run, hike and bike for hours (without getting sore or tired). Physically, I was still in great shape. My muscles and everything were still there... just covered under all of the weight that had accumulated around them. It was as though I had put on one of those blown-up sumo wrestler costumes, and just couldn't take it off again.

Other people just didn't get it. They could not comprehend that a person could be physically active, eat sensible and healthy food, and still gain enormous amounts of weight. The assumption was that I couldn't control my eating, or that I was being lazy... that it was due to personal bad life choices. I don't blame them, until it happened to me, I didn't even think that was humanly possible.

I got lots of advice to not be a glutton and to exercise more... this from people who had known me all my life (meanwhile they're eating a huge fried meal while I was eating a salad). We could go out and have a full day of activity and exercise, and they were the ones who were winded or sore the next day.

Unlike what you say in your post, it had nothing to do with my personal behaviour. I literally had no control over it. None. The only thing that finally helped was getting the correct medication (after lots of trial and error, and tests... I get tested every month now, and my medication still gets adjusted due to the results). Weight and muscle definition wise, I am now finally back to where I was before my thyroid went. If it wasn't for the right combination of medication I would still be overweight. I know that nothing I could do could have reversed that. It was chemical and had nothing to do with my personal choices or behaviours.

Nat, I know, there's always a heavy emphasis on "medical reasons".
That's the "out", "it's not my fault" it's always some sort of "medical problem."
I guess there's been an absolute explosion of thyroid problems in the last 30-50 years.
How come we never had all these problems in the 1950's and 60's?
Is it an epidemic?
People should stop complaining and get up off their ample arses open the door and go for a walk!
"But my hips hurt if I walk more than 500 feet."
"I get out of breath when I walk."
"But it's raining!"
"But...."
"But,..."
"But,..."

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 10:23:36 PM

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Nat, I know, there's always a heavy emphasis on "medical reasons".
That's the "out", "it's not my fault" it's always some sort of "medical problem."
I guess there's been an absolute explosion of thyroid problems in the last 30-50 years.
How come we never had all these problems in the 1950's and 60's?
Is it an epidemic?
People should stop complaining and get up off their ample arses open the door and go for a walk!
"But my hips hurt if I walk more than 500 feet."
"I get out of breath when I walk."
"But it's raining!"
"But...."
"But,..."
"But,..."

Popeye, i dont have a good answer for Your question.... Although good intuition and logic tell me You aren't really looking for an answer as much as You are looking to be a jackass....Anyway, my grandmother died when i was 19 (i'm 33 now, You do the math cause that's why my masters degree is as far away from math as You can get) and she had to be in her 60's... She very clearly had thyroid issues...Although we don't know anything about our medical history as a family, i can tell You she had those fucking bulging eyes that people with graves disease get...(made me so paranoid in fact that i used to use a tape measure to measure my eyes..)...i suspect that's why she was so fat....i feel very ashamed now for how i treated her based on her weight...Although, not once do i regret singing ding dong the witch is dead once i found out she was gone.

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 10:30:20 PM

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When's the last time you saw a fat Chinaman, or woman?
I don't think I ever have. Maybe on that "Book 'em, Danno show but never in person.

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 10:32:38 PM

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Not a reply - just an observation.

A nutritionist told me two things recently:

1 - A "rule of thumb" for counting calories is to take your goal weight and multiply it by 10 to find out how many calories you need to achieve or maintain that weight.

2 - Carbs (which includes starches and fruits/veggies) should constitute 50% of the calories you eat each day; protein should be 30%; fats should be 20%.

There is fine-tuning involved, including the rules of 15 - carb servings each include 15 grams of carbs, one should have 2 servings of breads, pasta, or starchy veggies at each meal, and the rest of the carbs should be divided between fruits and veggies.

I have begun following this plan, and I am pleased to note that if I eat slowly and enjoy every bite, I am satisfied at the end of each meal. I use my allowance of fruits as dessert at lunch (yogurt and fruit mixed - yum) and dinner (sugar-free applesauce or a fresh piece of fruit). We'll see if I actually lose weight (which I can only tell if I can get into some clothes that I can't right now.

I am also beginning exercise, consisting of wheeling myself around the apartment complex. This is not just for weight control, but to maintain a healthy cardiovascular system. That's why I don't want an electric wheelchair - people who use those and don't really need them tend to atrophy.

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 10:33:15 PM

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When's the last time you saw a fat Chinaman, or woman?
I don't think I ever have. Maybe on that "Book 'em, Danno show but never in person.

Seriously popeye, perhaps You need to hit a meeting or call Your sponsor or get the fuck out of yourself....Because this belligerant behavior in which You are repeatedly provoking posters to go off on you is so unbecoming.....It saddens me...and frankly i pitty you, because you must be very very dry.

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 10:33:43 PM

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That outside appearance is just looking for acceptance externally. The reward should be you feel better about yourself and you are healthier.

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Excess skin is why it still looks like I have a slight roll. The stretch marks are still there. I can hike, exercise and do alot more now. I am at less risk of heart disease, hypertension, diabetes, etc. I eat in moderation until I am no longer hungry (occasionally until full if it is a great meal). I drink plenty of water. I stay away from the sodas. I eat more fruits and veggies (though I could stand to eat more).

Your advice to not lose weight until you can do something about the cosmetics, shows that you only look at it from a cosmetic point. I am talking about being as healthy as you can be, and moderation. It seems that you just want to ignore a problem as a solution, and if you want you can, but to advise others to is dangerous.

You can come up with many reasons to not succeed, but the question is, how many reasons can you come up with to succeed?

I can come up with plenty of reasons to succeed. I'll feel better, have more energy, look good in a bikini, and be more attractive. As far as advising others to wait, I suppose you have a point, but who wants to work hard for a year to get in shape only to continue being insulted about weight? Who's going to see the sculpted body beneath the excess skin? That's enough to make some people stop caring about their weight permanently. If someone loses weight when they can afford surgery, they will see the result they deserve to see after all the hard work of getting the weight off. I'm not saying people shouldn't lose weight. I'm saying I think losing weight should be a positive experience, not a disappointing one.

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 10:38:33 PM

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That outside appearance is just looking for acceptance externally. The reward should be you feel better about yourself and you are healthier.

Orion, i get where You are coming from totally...And to most people i would share this story with they would roll their eyes...but here goes anyway...Recently i was going up to Champaign for a job interview...i was staying with Him the night before... About a half hour outside of town i realized i had worn the wrong bra...So, i went to target to see if by some grace of god they had my size...Of course they didn't.. BASTARDS..he he...The did however have one in a similar cut and style which was two sizes smaller than what i normally wear..It fit, and fit nicely too i must add...It was not until that following week when i went to the doctor and was bitching about having only lost two pounds in the four months since i had seen her that she asked me if any of my clothes fit differently.... Then i had to admit to the bra issue...i think it may have been at that point that she assualted me with her clip board, spouting something about expectations...

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 10:41:22 PM

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That is a good sign, because it seems you are losing inches and gaining muscle. More muscle means more energy you can expend and burn calories with.

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/7/2008 10:53:36 PM

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I heard that it`s hard wired,into our heads.Youth signs like sharp jaw lines and slim profiles are embedded in our survival instincts.Being with someone bigger or stronger is part of that to.

How heavy people are sometimes treated, is nothing less then bigotry.

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/8/2008 3:53:15 AM

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I know that bar well, upon Waltons Mountain. lol

Dew Drop Inn? omg that was the funniest comment ever.

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/8/2008 3:54:21 AM

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There are some very diverse views on the topic at hand and I just thought I would add my two-pence worth….and these are only my thoughts and opinions.

In western societies many people are having it drummed into them what the perfect body should be and what some people fail to realise is that people have varying body types and shapes.

With the way the world has gone there is a lot of ‘back-biting’ and ‘bullying’ going on and I guess many people deal with pressures by overeating or ‘comfort eating’.

Some people I would like to say a minority (I think it is but don’t know if it actually is) of people do have a medical problem that causes them to gain weight or find it difficult to lose weight.

My experiences are of this:

I was never a ‘skinny’ child or ‘slender’ teen I was bullied when I was younger had a few bad personal experiences (never bullied bout weight) and I did turn to comfort eating and then when I was say 18 I turned to bullemia to try and ‘control’ things without realising I was spiralling out of control.

I was diagnosed with PCOS (polycystic ovary syndrome) at the age of 18 on there are many side effects of that which I don’t need to go into, however one was that inevitably most women with PCOS occasionally gain weight around the mid-drift area and also find it a lot harder than most to lose weight.

I became down – I guess with no real need to be I would go out with friends I could have fun and nobody had ever made any derogative comments about my weight, guys would flirt etc (that could have been due to my over-sized chest)….but I wasn’t happy with me, and that’s what needed to change.

I then thought well its not my fault that i’m ‘fat’ it’s the PCOS – and that is utter bollocks to be honest, if I hadn’t spent years of ‘comfort’ or ‘binge’ eating then I wouldn’t have got to the weight I was.

So I started to eat healthier the weight came off slowly very very slowly and I got fed up and down with eating all the ‘right’ foods correct portions etc and exercising more. I became down and stopped eating much at all.

I decided to do a lot of research on PCOS and found a site and group which admittedly you paid to, and the diet worked wonders for me – it was taylor made for PCOS as there are some foods that PCOS sufferers are very sensitive to.

I lost a significant amount of weight (my metabolism appeared to speed up as PCOS is also a metabolic as well as hormone disorder).

My endo wanted to try me on meds I said yes and stopped the diet and stuck to healthy eating introducing some foods back into my diet and I ballooned in weight and put just under half of what I lost back on….even though at one point I practically lived in the gym I was there twice a day and swimming too – again I think this was a control issue.

I know my body and I know what worked for me and it was the diet and infact I have just started on it again….it isn’t a diet it is a way of life.

if you are not eating you will not lose weight if you are overweight it isn’t a myth it is fact.

If you feel you are ‘comfort’ eating I think (again my opinion) that it is to do with control not necessarily food control either.

With the right frame of mind I think you should be able to lose weight, however if you set out to fail then inevitably you will fail.

And if self-esteem is a problem and being unhappy with yourself is a problem then being ‘thin’ ain’t going to change that. The only thing that can change that is the person as a whole.

If someone wants to lose weight make sure you do it for you not society, not a friend, not a lover etc – ultimately if it isn’t for you –you wont be happy.

I am going to lose my weight for me and no-one else, I don’t like my weight but I like what I see in the mirror, I’m never going to be a uk size 8 nor do I want to be, I’ve noticed that when I lose weight I don’t lose much off my boobs so even if I wanted to be I couldn’t.

(this is only my musings, my rambling thoughts my opinions – when I say you it isn’t directed at anyone at all and hope I don’t offend anyone)

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RE: Why are we obsessed with weight? - 2/8/2008 4:23:31 AM

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I know I am obsessed with weight. I have been my whole life whther I am thin or fat. Through my life I have been a squeeze box. I have been as small as a size 6(when 6 was really small) and as large as a 20W. 3 years ago I lost about 55 pounds. I have kept most of it off but have gained back around 20. I am struggling right now to get it off. healthy food is a luxury that takes more money and groceries keep climbing higher in price. Also the temptation at work is sometimes overcoming. Especially with all the stress the job entails and working with people from a culture that dont normally value healthy eating and they are always encouraging me to indulge.

There is a fine line between wanting to be your best and never accepting yourself the way you are. Be your best but love yourself right now. Dont wait until you've lost the weight to get clothes that flatter your best parts. that ego boost will bolster your self esteem and continue to aid you in keeping your eye on the prize. dont be your own worst enemy. I am so self concious with men. I think that if i dont look like a runway model, they are going to find me hideous. they dont. Really, they focus on your best feature. I remember feeling embarassed the first time i was with my Sir(even though he has a potbelly), about my stretch marks and hanging belly from a c-section when my 9 year old was born. He sees the stretchmarks and hanging skin and thinks"she earned that".

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