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lateralist1 -> RE: Is Bisexual play bisexual? (2/12/2008 4:16:11 PM)

I always thought I was bisexual until I realised it was the act of  dominating a woman that I enjoy.
I think part of the fascination of BDSM for some people is not the D/s aspect of the relationship but the fact that bottoms/submissives gain experiences that they would not necessarily be able to get for themselves.
I don't find any power exchange in making a man indulge in sex with another.
I don't even think it's kinky.
If that's what a sub wants fine go ahead I'll give my permission as long as safety precautions are adhered to. But don't expect me to organise it for you. However if it gets out of hand then I will stop it. Like any other good relationship a D/s relationship relies on honesty.





Evility -> RE: Is Bisexual play bisexual? (2/12/2008 4:21:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MistressVnus
Homophobically speaking, of course.


I had a thought or two to share on this topic but I thought I would scan the thread first and see if anyone had dropped the H-bomb.

Hold your cards. We have a bingo.

I am not quite sure why this sort of topic cannot exist on any adult forum without someone brandishing the suggestion of homophobia but I have never seen it happen otherwise.



Nineveh -> RE: Is Bisexual play bisexual? (2/12/2008 4:49:37 PM)

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ORIGINAL: PsyVamp

I'm going to admit to answering prior to reading the whole thread because I have a strong feeling about these things.

I do not believe that by playing with someone of the same sex, even sexually playing necessarily makes you bisexual.

IMO, to be truly bi, you'd have to be willing to be in an actual relationship with someone of the same sex.  Play is just play- just sensations and doesn't necessarily have something to do with feelings.
One sexual encounter does not make a person bi

Lady Jag


I would agreee with this only if the person is willing to be in a relationship with one gender but not the other.  Some people are not willing to be in a relationship with either gender, and thus you can only judge their orientation by who they are willing to sleep with.



Nineveh -> RE: Is Bisexual play bisexual? (2/12/2008 4:52:28 PM)

I think I am the first male Dom to say so on this thread but I would quite enjoy forcing a male sub to engage in sexual play with another male sub if they were both het.  The power and emotional sadism involved in having them do something that they did not enjoy and that felt as taboo as homosexual behavior feels to the average heterosexual man would be a big rush for me.  I had posted earlier that I would enjoy the poer aspect of having a straight man suck me off, but honestly I think I would enjoy it even more if he were sucking someone else off who was straight and was disturbed by the fact that it was turning him on.



DarkDaddyZ -> RE: Is Bisexual play bisexual? (2/12/2008 7:06:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

An act does not equal an orientation. 

I agree.  That's why they made Deliverance[:D]



sweetnurseBBW -> RE: Is Bisexual play bisexual? (2/12/2008 7:10:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DarkDaddyZ

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

An act does not equal an orientation. 

I agree.  That's why they made Deliverance[:D]


Oh wow! That just brought some disturbing images to mind! [sm=horse.gif]



DarkDaddyZ -> RE: Is Bisexual play bisexual? (2/12/2008 7:17:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: sweetnurseBBW

quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkDaddyZ

quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

An act does not equal an orientation. 

I agree.  That's why they made Deliverance[:D]


Oh wow! That just brought some disturbing images to mind! [sm=horse.gif]

I just wanted everyone to be in a Valentine's Day mood [:)]



BumbleBee2MsP -> RE: Is Bisexual play bisexual? (2/12/2008 7:40:36 PM)

i have always considered myself as straight.  Being that i love the smell and taste and feel of of a real Woman. but as i explore the aspects of Female domination my mind was bent and thinking completly alterd when my Mistress put on Her Strap-on Dildo and odered me to suck Her cock. To make it worse, She had me dress in black satin panties a frilly see through dress and high heels. i was so torn up about it inside. i knew i wanted to obey Her commands but i was on my knees giving Her a blow job, that was way too gay for me  and i might have cried if i hadn't been alble to remind myself that Mistress Persephone is the most Feminine sexy Female i have ever met. So my question is this. Does complete role reversal like this with a Dominate Women count as bi behavior? After She used that big Dildo in my ass i sure felt scared and confussed.



girlygurl -> RE: Is Bisexual play bisexual? (2/12/2008 7:47:18 PM)

This is an interesting topic. Do I find other women attractive? Yes I do. Do I feel that I could be attracted to a woman in a way that resembles my attraction to a man? No, I don't believe so. I've been with three women and they were all purely physical/sexual acts verses an intimate/sexual act.

A previous poster mentioned liking the idea of dominating another woman... and that got me to thinking... although I wasn't the dominate with the past three (it was just kinda reciprocal play) I do enjoy the thought of making another female submit to me (and my Sir as well). I have a strong desire to be dominated by a Domme, *wink You know who You are. [8D]

So, after typing this I've come to the conclusion that I don't "think" I could ever be emotionally attached to a woman as I am a man, therefore my bi sexuality would be related to play only. Does that make sense? Moreover, would I be considered bi sexual if I only want a the interaction to be sex? In my opinion, I do believe I'm bi sexual in that I would willingly play with another. Hmmmm I dunno, lack of sleep makes one a bit fuzzy. [8D]

girly



LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Is Bisexual play bisexual? (2/12/2008 9:34:49 PM)

I will also add that just because one is bisexual doesn't mean that we're attracted to EVERYONE.  My master often ordered me to have sex with males and females I felt no connection to whatsoever and did NOT want to have sex with.

I certainly wouldn't have said I was a bisexual just because I allowed him to use my body in those ways.



LadyPact -> RE: Is Bisexual play bisexual? (2/13/2008 6:14:30 PM)

You may be right that you are the only Dom to admit it.  Not many would, so I can certainly appreciate your answer.

I can promise you that the power rush is amazing.  I just get the added benefit of enjoying the show as well.

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ORIGINAL: Nineveh

I think I am the first male Dom to say so on this thread but I would quite enjoy forcing a male sub to engage in sexual play with another male sub if they were both het.  The power and emotional sadism involved in having them do something that they did not enjoy and that felt as taboo as homosexual behavior feels to the average heterosexual man would be a big rush for me.  I had posted earlier that I would enjoy the poer aspect of having a straight man suck me off, but honestly I think I would enjoy it even more if he were sucking someone else off who was straight and was disturbed by the fact that it was turning him on.



Tslaveboy -> RE: Is Bisexual play bisexual? (2/13/2008 7:46:08 PM)

I think I might be a 1. But it didn't really feel sexual. The thrill came from somewhere else.



Reflectivesoul -> RE: Is Bisexual play bisexual? (2/14/2008 3:07:31 AM)

After reading this whole thread I figured I'd drop my cents in the bucket too.
 
I feel that be adding a label to what you like, dislike, are forced into doing is seriously limiting where you can go next. If you're so busy worrying about " OMG am I gay/bi/straight etc " you'll surely be missing out on what's right in front of you. If you enjoy pleasing same sex only in a D/s context great, then there is a definate line for you, if you like it as an everyday lifestyle great because thats something that you've found that you enjoy.
 
Personally I'd probably be sitting on the fence as I've been with both, just severely limited with women, I like making women squirm, like seeing their expressions, I love making them crawl, but as far as a " sexual " act such as ( using the common thread one lol ) going down on a woman, no thanks, her going south on me, I dont think so, anything else and you're on. Theres nothing like watching someone cum and knowing that *you* had a proverbial hand in it and that goes for any sexual relationship IMO.
 
For m/m contact, oh get me popcorn please lol. I've put boys into situations where they have either had to perform on someone else or they recieved, I have a friend that is bi, I have played with him and his primary male partner who is gay. Its a rush no other way to put it.  For me, forced or unforced hell lemme in lol. *snicker*
 
If its something that really isnt something that in any situation you'd ever do no matter what then yes I'd say make it a limit, but otherwise who really cares what goes on behind everyone elses doors? You do what you like, or can do to please another. Isn't it much more satisfying to think instead that your Mistress/Master is well pleased with what you have done for them, than who might squeal and cry ooo you're ( insert sexual orientation here)...
Please yourself, please who you are with and dont give a crud what someone else thinks about it
 
~RS~

~edited cause the deamons on the keyboard were running wild~



PsyVamp -> RE: Is Bisexual play bisexual? (2/14/2008 6:03:26 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Nineveh

quote:

ORIGINAL: PsyVamp

I'm going to admit to answering prior to reading the whole thread because I have a strong feeling about these things.

I do not believe that by playing with someone of the same sex, even sexually playing necessarily makes you bisexual.

IMO, to be truly bi, you'd have to be willing to be in an actual relationship with someone of the same sex.  Play is just play- just sensations and doesn't necessarily have something to do with feelings.
One sexual encounter does not make a person bi

Lady Jag


I would agreee with this only if the person is willing to be in a relationship with one gender but not the other.  Some people are not willing to be in a relationship with either gender, and thus you can only judge their orientation by who they are willing to sleep with.



That is an interesting distinction and one I had not imagined, thank you for the input. 
LJ



night101owl -> RE: Is Bisexual play bisexual? (2/14/2008 8:03:39 PM)

The term originally described conduct, not political identity. If you engage in bisexual sex, you, by definition, bisexual. It does not mean that you "identify" as bisexual (in any deep-seated soul-examined orientation sort of way), but you are not a 0 on the Kinsey scale.



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