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RE: Whaddya think? A forum for newbies? - 2/14/2008 11:19:16 AM   
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am i the only one that remembers the grass roots movement for a forum just for topics that are brought up on a regular basis? sub vs slave; fat chicks; no limit slaves; whether or not LA is a link-bot (she's not, i've met her in person, see the Positive Experiences forum); when Ron is going to get a blow job from something other than a blow up doll (that is in reference to another post...see this thread http://www.collarchat.com/m_1625359/tm.htm ); so forth and so on....but really...asking for a forum where you can ask the same "newbie" questions over and over again, has already been asked and denied...but i can't use the search feature as well as LA, so i can't find it...

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RE: Whaddya think? A forum for newbies? - 2/14/2008 11:25:32 AM   
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Other problem: what's the cutoff point for newbism? Many of us are as far removed from Ron's experience as newborn chicks are from singing cocks, for example, and yet, we've been here for a while...

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RE: Whaddya think? A forum for newbies? - 2/14/2008 11:26:55 AM   
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Compared to Ron I think I am but a twinkle of an egg in the old hen and rooster's eyes.

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RE: Whaddya think? A forum for newbies? - 2/14/2008 11:29:53 AM   
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ORIGINAL: lytehaze

I absolutely agree with everything the OP said. There is a large "didn't you read that post from 2005" type of response when you ask a beginner question. I like to ask questions here and now to those active here and now. I like to be a part of an active discussion. The flip side is if you do search the archives and respond to a thread you get the "we've already discussed this why is this topic active again"


Damn I must be on of those elitest that the OP was refering to.  At times my tongue is sharp.  I'm guessing that some ppl post in order to learn something.  The lazy ones yea I said lazy post without doing any research.  Instead try reading the older posts and you might actually glean some knowledge from it.  With that insight in hand you could either pose a quesiton gained from that knowledge.  Or better still say I know this has been talked about in the past and I'm looking for fresh insight.  In other words
DO your homework, cuz I'm not going to.

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RE: Whaddya think? A forum for newbies? - 2/14/2008 11:31:09 AM   
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DO your homework, cuz I'm not going to.



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RE: Whaddya think? A forum for newbies? - 2/14/2008 11:31:58 AM   
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well I didn't see you in the thick of the fray, laddie buck!!!!!

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RE: Whaddya think? A forum for newbies? - 2/14/2008 11:32:54 AM   
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My opinion - it's not needed. The questions that get asked over and over again that annoy people annoy people because the answers don't change. You don't need to ask what the difference between a sub and a slave is - you won't be able to get a straight answer so why not read the past 1,000,000 debates on it, come to your own idea and then post a question based off that?

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RE: Whaddya think? A forum for newbies? - 2/14/2008 11:40:20 AM   
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ok, having read them, what is the difference?

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RE: Whaddya think? A forum for newbies? - 2/14/2008 11:43:10 AM   
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RE: Whaddya think? A forum for newbies? - 2/14/2008 11:44:03 AM   
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Good one!!!

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RE: Whaddya think? A forum for newbies? - 2/14/2008 11:44:46 AM   
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RE: Whaddya think? A forum for newbies? - 2/14/2008 11:45:18 AM   
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bittie,

I have seen that answer about 1,000,000 times before...I had sort of hoped everyone has had a change of heart about that, given all the new technology available........but I guess not  *shrugs*

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RE: Whaddya think? A forum for newbies? - 2/14/2008 11:49:45 AM   
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I run it all through spell check.......... it's not my fault really!

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RE: Whaddya think? A forum for newbies? - 2/14/2008 12:05:48 PM   
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I don't have any questions that make me feel self-conscious at all.  I never said that.  I was stating that it's frustrating to ask a question and be treated like a naughty and slightly stupid step-child.  I've asked 1 question, asked for advice one time, and made one bad suggestion, that I can find.  Maybe I have more.  Further, just because I'm asking a question, doesn't mean I haven't researched other peoples answers in the past.  (???)  I'm not sure how asking a question that's straightforward implies anything but the question...?  I actually do follow the links and read the posts.  I'm not sure how the perception (that word again) came to be that I'm not reading anything else.  (???  So confused, now.)  I never even said anything about the thousand links.  Really.  I would like to think the links themselves are being offered as their answer.

Kyraofmists:  You're 100% correct that calling them elitist is rude.  It was intended to be rude tongue in cheek.  Sorry the tongue part didn't come through.  You're right.  It's impossible to tell intentions from a post, most of the time. This is a fine example.  I don't disagree that perception colors everything we do. (See the last line above.)   No question.  However, it was pretty obvious I was being sarcastic, I think.  I think that some folks are understood exactly as they intend to be.  I could give you an example of what I'm speaking, but that would defeat the point of not naming names....kind of a catch 22, I suppose.

Califchick:  Please tell me which post so that I can correct my tone in the future.  I don't want to sound anyway but inquisitive.  Again with the links!!  When did I say anything about links??? 

mnottertail...strangely enough, that makes a certain sense! 

Ixian: Fabulous ideas.  Way, way better than mine!  Now,  if I knew any of the answers to the FAQ's, I'd be thrilled to write it, hee hee.  Any volunteers??

As for asking the first question, hey, it was my very first post as I recall.  When I got the links posted by someone, I read them all.  Cut me a break.  I haven't asked anything like that since.  However, having read the prior posts on that one, there were insights given toward my question that weren't anywhere I could find in the old ones. I'm hoping to tap into peoples experience (not to be confused with their experiences, major difference.)  I read the old posts, see if there's something I can take from it.  I've only asked for help with one other thing since, and got some great advice, based on the fact that I didn't see it anywhere.

Sailing Bum:  Yep.  You're right.  Please read above paragraph, and duly note I have corrected myself without you or my man's help.  (Course, I might show this to him later to see if he thinks I need to be disciplined for all of the hullabuloo I created over what ended up being a stupid idea anyway.)

Phx:  (Saved you for last.) I'm hoping to find just such a friend.  A sub-mentor if you will.  I'm thinking running around like a dog looking for scraps will be more annoying than question (hmm...fun role play?), so I'm waiting for a relationship to develop.  I'm reading the links, and looking at past discussions, etc. etc, as well as internet research.  Gleaning what I can from them.  We all learn differently.  I'm a question asking individual, and, like I said, even if they are stupid questions, I'm gonna keep on asking until I'm satisfied.  More like a dog with a bone.(ooo...part of above role play.)  If it annoys you...umm...don't answer. 

We newbies are annoying to you crotchety old vets, I know, but we also bring fresh perspectives, new ideas, and different outlooks.  This place is so much fun because of all of the different strengths of the people involved.  Now let's all hold hands and sing Kumbaya. 

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RE: Whaddya think? A forum for newbies? - 2/14/2008 12:08:32 PM   
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ok, having read them, what is the difference?


The number of letters in the word *ss*

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RE: Whaddya think? A forum for newbies? - 2/14/2008 12:10:17 PM   
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So when you go home for Thanksgiving, is it all sweetness and light or is there any general snarkiness, sarcasm etc being thrown about. Because if the people who love you aren't always wonderful and accepting, why would you suppose strangers would be?

I ignore the snarky types, and reclarify my question if someone didn't understand it. I find that not having a huge chip on my shoulder helps. People who feel defensive come across on a text only medium as hostile. The other thing is that what you perceive as sarcasm they may have meant as humor. I find humor on the boards is easily understood, thus the use of emoticons to help indicate it.

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RE: Whaddya think? A forum for newbies? - 2/14/2008 12:10:41 PM   
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Great idea-if the "twueness"  of the "experienced" can be moderated out.

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RE: Whaddya think? A forum for newbies? - 2/14/2008 12:10:47 PM   
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well damn my eyes, ol' one-eye is off to visit the optometrist..........know whadda mean?

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RE: Whaddya think? A forum for newbies? - 2/14/2008 12:14:31 PM   
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Another reason why I think a newbie section would be wrong is the first thing a person should learn is to treat the words that are written on their own merit and filtered through their own brain and not to give any more credit or credence based on how many posts the person writing them have on a board or how much knowledge they claim to have.

People can learn basic information in a million places on the web if they want. If they are wanting specific things answered or active involvement in a thread they need to feel themselves equal to anyone on the board and separating does not help and if anything perpetuates a clique/false respect mystique.



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RE: Whaddya think? A forum for newbies? - 2/14/2008 12:19:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: StormsSlave

We newbies are annoying to you crotchety old vets, I know, but we also bring fresh perspectives, new ideas, and different outlooks.  This place is so much fun because of all of the different strengths of the people involved.  Now let's all hold hands and sing Kumbaya. 


Keep telling yourself that... ya know like a mantra  
That must be why the same questions get asked over and over again ...It's the fresh, new  ideas.

BadOne

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