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RE: I am what I claim, not what I do - 3/3/2008 11:06:08 AM   
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i yam what i yam...and thats all dat i yam...im willow the WESBIAN!



ok so that confused me, are you a yam or a wesbian? and what is a wesbian? is it a wide lesbian? or a girl who likes girsl called wes? im very confuddled over here



yous dont knows me wery vell do yeee.




No such things as stangers just wank material i havent met yet :P


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RE: I am what I claim, not what I do - 3/3/2008 11:16:58 AM   
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ORIGINAL: faerytattoodgirl

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ORIGINAL: colouredin

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ORIGINAL: faerytattoodgirl

i yam what i yam...and thats all dat i yam...im willow the WESBIAN!



ok so that confused me, are you a yam or a wesbian? and what is a wesbian? is it a wide lesbian? or a girl who likes girsl called wes? im very confuddled over here



yous dont knows me wery vell do yeee.




No such things as stangers just wank material i havent met yet :P



i wuvs yous wery mucho...yous pic is da hots....yous accent must be the hots.  too.  doday i's is talking in wugs wunny slang.


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RE: I am what I claim, not what I do - 3/3/2008 11:38:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		I would think...'Wow, so glad I'm not in a relationship with that chick.'

I'm sure that to many people my Owner doesn't own me because I'm not submissive enough or polite enough or I talk too much or etc etc.  If they feel that way, they should be happy I'm with Him and not them.


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RE: I am what I claim, not what I do - 3/3/2008 12:35:53 PM   
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Nice to hear both sides


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RE: I am what I claim, not what I do - 3/3/2008 2:42:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Kana

Awesome
Nice to hear both sides




LoL.  Depending on who you want to believe.  Not that it matters I would guess both added some fiction to bolster their "stories".  He said she said who knows what the truth is.  The OP is guilty of being a elitest by expecting ppl to conform to her views  The other is guilty of being insecure or being so vain that it's all about her.  Stay tuned for the next installment of the jerry show.

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RE: I am what I claim, not what I do - 3/3/2008 2:53:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		Not to drag this issue out any further, but I feel I must support my slave (xxblushesxx) here. I have little doubt the OP's remarks were directed at my slave as the similarities between what she described and our actual meeting over a month ago are just far too many to attribute to coincidence. I am insulted by her aspersions as to the "reality" of the D/S realtionship between my slave and I, as well as her questioning my general "Domliness". It was also interesting that this was not an issue when she wrote back to us and still expressed an interest in playing with us.

I agree with all she my slave posted here, and in my opinion, the OP's remarks were inappropriate. I should make it clear that I only require my slave to be submissive to me. I do not expect her to be submissve to everyone who calls themselves a Dom or Domme. I did not force my slave into submission, she submitted to me out of her respect for me. I do not want want a slave that is a mindless robot ("Stepford wife") and that cannot think, or speak, or act for herself. I am very pleased she has a mind of her own, and can express her thoughts and opinions to myself and to others, yet still do so in a respectful and submissive manner when interacting with me.

Yes, my slave is very outspoken, and she can be stubborn, wilfull and even a little bratty at times, but I never have cause to doubt for a moment that she is truly *my* slave and that I love her.

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RE: I am what I claim, not what I do - 3/3/2008 2:55:33 PM   
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Insecurities are something that fascinate me.  I am,in fact, talking about someone I met this past Saturday night, part venting, part looking to see what others think and to make sure I have not gone totally off my rocker this time.


Maybe not off your rocker...but you should have read some BDSM 101 books to understand there is no conformity...each couple has their own dynamic..

Seems to me like your own need to judge gets in the way of seeing how things really are.

Maybe you look for the instability in one sub, because you have some lacking in your own submissive behaviors.


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RE: I am what I claim, not what I do - 3/3/2008 2:58:12 PM   
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RE: I am what I claim, not what I do - 3/3/2008 3:00:15 PM   
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I think enough is enough now, he said she said, they said they thought, i told them that I saw this and they saw that and WHO CARES. At the end of the day its all petty back biting. Take it into yourselves that you know your own relationships better than other people and leave it at that. No one needs to justify who/what they are to anyone unless they have a heck of a lot of insecurity. 

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RE: I am what I claim, not what I do - 3/3/2008 3:05:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		I find it very, very interesting the lengths someone will go to in order to make everything about them.  Yes, there were similarities and believe me, that was one of the first things that went through my mind as I watched the girl at the munch.  I do not expect anyone to conform to my ideals, unless they happen to consent to such.  I do, however, expect people to behave with some bit of civility in a public setting.  And what honestly got to me the most was they way she behaved towards the younger bunch that has only recently begun to spread out and mix with others at the munch.  The new director of the munch has done his best to help the younger crowd be accepted by the older crowd and to integrate our group with folks from surrounding areas.  The last thing we need is some girl coming in from one of those groups and damaging the progress being made. 

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RE: I am what I claim, not what I do - 3/3/2008 3:10:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SixFootMaster

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i wasn't there in her presence and if i had been i would have had to walk away, and yes i agree, and think it is essentially topping from the bottom.


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RE: I am what I claim, not what I do - 3/3/2008 3:20:19 PM   
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Not to drag this issue out any further, but I feel I must support my slave (xxblushesxx) here. I have little doubt the OP's remarks were directed at my slave as the similarities between what she described and our actual meeting over a month ago are just far too many to attribute to coincidence. I am insulted by her aspersions as to the "reality" of the D/S realtionship between my slave and I, as well as her questioning my general "Domliness". It was also interesting that this was not an issue when she wrote back to us and still expressed an interest in playing with us.



Of course your going to defend your girl however your logic fails me.  The OP seemed to be really put off rightly or wrongly.  I seriously doubt the OP would still express interest in seeing you agian if she was the subject matter in this post. Go figure

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RE: I am what I claim, not what I do - 3/3/2008 3:29:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MissAidan

I find it very, very interesting the lengths someone will go to in order to make everything about them.  Yes, there were similarities and believe me, that was one of the first things that went through my mind as I watched the girl at the munch.  I do not expect anyone to conform to my ideals, unless they happen to consent to such.  I do, however, expect people to behave with some bit of civility in a public setting.  And what honestly got to me the most was they way she behaved towards the younger bunch that has only recently begun to spread out and mix with others at the munch.  The new director of the munch has done his best to help the younger crowd be accepted by the older crowd and to integrate our group with folks from surrounding areas.  The last thing we need is some girl coming in from one of those groups and damaging the progress being made. 

i don't go to munchies or clubs come to that and only arrange private house parties and play privately. In these settings there seems less opportunity for egos to run amock. With regard to ageism......like genderism and racism it can be pervasive in behaviour and subconscious in cause.
i am in awe of those younger than myself. Master is younger for a start. i don't know if it is in the zeitgeist or 'dans le vent' but codes of behaviour and demeanor seems to be improving in my experience of bdsm. It really shocks me that demeanor is lost with the ageing process.
My own name is Prinsexx (taken from the Old Guard term the princess) and i am both proud and humble that i am an alpha female slave. And both proud and humble that i am a switch. When playing with others i am often empowered to take the initiatuve with younger female subs who are bi-curious or who have been loaned to me by their Dominants. It is a role which requires responsibility and grace and acts as role modelling. The responsibilties of the eldest sister are to show by exemplar behaviours.
As the elder slave if there are four present then i will serve the other three. i am elevated by my ability to serve, to be the first to serve and to be the last remaining serving until the scene is over and tidied.
Whereas i know that in private i can resist and bitch my Master at my peril, any form of disrespect with others and particularly during a scene gets the treatment from Him that it deserves. (i have had my face smacked in a way that was delightful and put me immediately into sub space but i twice in succession failed to say yes Master in the presence of others and the force of that smack sent me reeling and i will categorically not do that again).
So yes: grace and stamina in serving and receiving due reward is what i would term the duties of the elder slave. This is not conformity but really a description impo of group dynamics and ny way of expressing how ageing enables a deepening of the role of servitude........and i am old enough also to bow out gracefully.



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RE: I am what I claim, not what I do - 3/3/2008 3:50:00 PM   
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This is something I have been tossing around in my head since the munch I attended last night.  I go every month with few exceptions, know most of the folks at least by face, and almost always learn something new.  I also love that under it's new management, the munch group is getting much larger, growing to include guests from out of state groups as well.  Last night, there was a couple from out of town sitting one table over, and I could not help but watch them. 

During introductions and a couple of smoke breaks, I learned that they claim to have a 24/7 Master/slave relationship.  I also learned that she has a serious distaste for, and distrust of, switches and thinks submissives are just players, that the only "real" BDSMers are Masters/Mistresses and slaves.  What I observed after learning this was very interesting.  Her behaviour the entire evening (even after the munch when a bunch of us went to a club for an AIDS benefit) was nothing short of appaling.  I know everyone has their own way of practicing, and that titles mean different things to different people, but I have NEVER heared of an M/s dynamic where her behaviour is acceptable.

She got smart with her "Master" time and time again, to the point of insulting him once, and flat our refusing simple requests such as drink refils or finding the server.  She also took a nasty attitude when several of us younger folk near her began discussing switching, talking down to us and doing everything short of calling us fake.  However, when someone finally got fed up with her pioty (pious-ness?) and mentioned that her bahviour was about as far from slave as she could get, she got all defensive and started listing off all the things she does that make her a "slave".  Some of these were just too funny. 1-she wears leather because he wants her to (she spent all night bitching about her new leather boots!) 2-she acts as one type of pet for him when she would rather be another (but wont tell him this) 3-she does the laundry (he works, she doesn't) and 4 (the best by far) she is his slave because she says she is and we should all just leave it at that.

What I want to know is, what do you think of a person who goes around claiming to be this devoted, 24/7 live-in collard slave with behaviour such as this?  Personally, it was all I could do to bite my tongue and hold in my Irish temper.  If it wasn't for my respect for those who run the group, I would have told her how abusred she seemed to me and how what she claimed and what she did didn't quite mix.


In all honesty, what right do you or any one else have to judge some one elses behavior? I mean...really...get over it. This life style is cool because it isnt a cookie cutter existance.

If you dont like the way some one is behaving? Dont associate yourself with them, but personally, I dont want to hear you gripe because you didnt get your way, or because you felt like some one didnt know how to act. How they act is none of your business.

Coming on here to start drama to try and trash some ones name and gossip about them is weak, childish and totally immature...grow up, move on and forget it.

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RE: I am what I claim, not what I do - 3/3/2008 3:54:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MissAidan

I find it very, very interesting the lengths someone will go to in order to make everything about them.  Yes, there were similarities and believe me, that was one of the first things that went through my mind as I watched the girl at the munch.  I do not expect anyone to conform to my ideals, unless they happen to consent to such.  I do, however, expect people to behave with some bit of civility in a public setting.  And what honestly got to me the most was they way she behaved towards the younger bunch that has only recently begun to spread out and mix with others at the munch.  The new director of the munch has done his best to help the younger crowd be accepted by the older crowd and to integrate our group with folks from surrounding areas.  The last thing we need is some girl coming in from one of those groups and damaging the progress being made. 



Civility in a public setting would not be coming to a public thread trash talking some one else, because you dont agree with their views...I agree, you are behaving in a manner of an elitist. Which is sad. It gives this life style, which is actually starting to come out of the shadows and into the light, a bad name.

Obviously you arent the group leader, so what right do you have to make mention of this?

Its like two kids...one saying Im a good girl because I do what mommy tells me to do and I get cookies...and the other saying, I do things my own way and think for myself and get my ass busted...noone likes an ass kisser...not even the mom handing out the cookies.

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RE: I am what I claim, not what I do - 3/3/2008 3:54:40 PM   
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RE: I am what I claim, not what I do - 3/3/2008 3:55:29 PM   
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RE: I am what I claim, not what I do - 3/3/2008 4:08:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		So, what exactly have we learned here?

Well, we've learned that it's easy to judge people.  Anyone can toss out an opinion, but is it the 'truth'?  What is the truth?  We can tell ourselves that we know the whole story, but sometimes, that just isn't possible.  Most of us try to make reasonable judgments when all the cards haven't been laid on the table, but every now and again...we're wrong.  Perhaps, then, it takes a strong person to admit when they've misunderstood something, and a strong person indeed, to walk a mile in someone else's shoes.

I'm Jerry Springer.  Thank you for watching.



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RE: I am what I claim, not what I do - 3/3/2008 4:11:21 PM   
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RE: I am what I claim, not what I do - 3/3/2008 4:12:21 PM   
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m Jerry Springer. Thank you for watching.


LOL.  I have zero affection for the other Jerry Springer, but I'm starting to like you a lot.

Do you ever wish there was a forum specifically dedicated to questions about what "other people" do?  ("Other" being not you, the questionee; and not me, the questioner - or visa versa.) 


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