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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/8/2008 4:42:22 AM   
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Well, it may not seem like a big deal to most people being used by only two men...but they told me they wanted to be my boyfriend and everything and I believed them...so I was pretty upset after when they stopped talking to me...


you are young....with time, you'll learn that some men will say whatever it takes to get into a womans pants.

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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/8/2008 4:52:18 AM   
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I'd check out "borderline personality disorder", as well as the dependant and histrionic types, on wikipedia.

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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/8/2008 4:59:46 AM   
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was that to me? I know what BDP is personally i would check out hypochondriasis



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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/8/2008 5:11:17 AM   
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doll, something just hit me this morning as I began reading this thread. You remind me so SO MUCH of someone near and dear to me......as she was a few years ago. I don't know how much of her story you will relate to but I am going to tell you a very condensed brief version. Hopefully in her story you will find something that will help you.

Today she is 27 years old, happily married and excitedly expecting her first child. She still struggles with depression and is still seriously overweight just so that you are aware, her life is not storybook perfect.

She was a lovely, dramatic baby and toddler. Yet when she got too tired, she suffered night terrors. A few years ago it surfaced in her mind that she had been sexually abused by a male family member at a very young age. No one is still sure what her age, at the time, was. Her parents had troubles, father an alchoholic and occasional drug abuser. Mother just naive and immature. She had an older brother (by one year) that she always felt was more favoured in many ways. Always the girl angst and drama of, no one understands me.

Her mother left her father when it became apparent the drinking and activities it spurred were worsening and detrimental to her children. They lived in poverty for several years, and with the shadow of what insane stunt the often MIA dad was going to do next. He would disappear, sometimes for years, they suddenly reappear proclaiming love and devotion. Even after her mother remarried and provided a more stable environment.

The girl had never been really thin but at puberty she began to gain weight, also the drama and theatrics increased. Even talks of suicide. Often times very defiant, even with a strict but also very loving home life. With the increases came therapy, much therapy. Trying to find the right doctor, the doctors trying to find the right medications. The girl didn't do well in school, ADD they said. Parents were adamant about getting an education, much fuss over skipping school, not doing school work, failing grades.

With the weight gain and other issues there was a low self esteem. Not uncommon in a teenage girl. She was a very social girl and usually had quite a few friends. Her parents almost always liked her friends and they often spent a great deal of time at the house. No cause for concern there. On the surface the girl should have had a fairly happy life. Yet always bubbling under the surface the depression and mood swings. Then it was discovered that there was increasing alchohol abuse, and addition to a cold medication. Boxes and boxes of capsules taken in a few days time. More hospitalizations both for physical and mental, more "helpful drugs" cocktails. No perfect cure, never the cure. In desperation her mother even tried many holistic and alternative avenues. Still nothing that would "fix" whatever ailed the girl.

Somehow she managed to graduate high school, even began community college. That lasted less than two months. The family rules, the same her brother had had, if you are not a full time student. You work full time and pay rent after you've gotten 4 months rent free to save your money if you wish to live on your own. If you do not move out you pay rent and you still follow the rules of the house.

Ultimately she moved into her own place, sharing it with friends. Always some financial drama, always changing jobs. Several times beginning college only to quit. Still fighting depression and a host of other issues......restless leg syndrome that would not allow her to sleep....digestive issues and obsessive eating issues......cutting.......etc. Also, several attempted rapes at parties, in there somewhere.

All this time she had never really had an interest in dating. Never a serious "boyfriend". Sure, she'd had crushes but usually on someone so unattainable and safe there was no chance of actually dating them. There was even a period of time she decided she must be a lesbian because she just didn't want anything to do with the phsysical aspects of dating men. What a dramatic thing she made of that announcement!! Then after a few attempts there, decided that was not for her either. She just gave up on dating and having a relationship. Instead hung out with gay guys. Male companionship without the sex.

Several more hospitalizations because of suicidal thoughts, more job hopping, more financial dramas. More on and off medications.

Finally one day several years ago, the girl decided that perhaps what her mother had been telling her had some grains of truth. "We are each responsible for our own happiness." "No matter what crap life throws at you, you are responsible for how you allow it to affect you" "Quit dragging out the big book of excuses for why you fail!" "No one is going to do it for you!"

She decided to take responsibility for her life. Yes, she will always need a little help with her depression and mood swings. She now knows that she has to be watchful of herself, see the signs of the bi-polar (or whatever the current in phrase is for it) highs and lows, and has learned better ways to deal with both. Sure, she still has days where she makes bad choices, calls her mother crying........but they are getting less and less. Yes, she is still overweight, she may always be. But she knows that she alone, owns that. No one else.

Basically, she grew up alot. Realized that if she wants to be better, feel better, have the life she wants......SHE HAS TO FIGHT FOR IT! If a doctor isn't helping, demand another. If a medication sucks, tell the doctor that prescribed it and demand help. Research everything. She spends alot of time at the public library and online. If a behaviour is destructive FIGHT to change it.

This young woman quit being a victim and became a fighter. Fighting for her health and her own happiness. It has not been an easy battle, far from it. Many lost skirmishes. But she refuses to quit fighting.

Doll, somewhere inside yourself you have the same abilities. If you didn't, you would have given up, and offed yourself already. The fact that you are bringing your drama here is not only a cry for help, but also shows a desire to get better. You just have yet, to toss away the excuse book and learn to own, your own life. It will come in time. Not one of us on here has the magic answer for you. Quit looking for it. You have your own answers, you're just refusing or not ready, to see them yet.

There is no easy cure, no magic pill, no instant fix. Accept that. You are going to have to work hard, harder than you want, harder than you can even imagine. But the harder you work at it, the easier it will get. And, the peace you crave will begin to flow into your life. Many of the things you struggle with, you may always struggle with. They will just become easier to cope with. You just have to stop making them walls and welcome them as life lessons. Lessons that will make you stronger.



I am sure I may be leaving important things out and for this I appologise. It has been a bumpy ride with this girl.

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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/8/2008 5:20:09 AM   
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hey,

you know saying no isnt so difficult, its a small word but so powerful and empowering.  just say it once, to the next guy and see how easy it is. 

what do you think is going to happen to you if you say no.  nothing is what, youre not going to combust, the world isnt going to stop but you will change, a little bit.  baby steps, one at a time.

so youve had heaps of help and nothing has helped, you know youre best resource is you - hard to believe i know, but its true.  look ahead to five years from now and ask yourself where you want to be by then, give yourself a goal, nothing unrealistic, but promise yourself you can and you will get there.

when i walk away from a thing i mentally shrug it off, i just let it fall from my shoulders and walk - takes practice, but you have a life in front of you, its time to leave the past behind.  dont let it wreck the rest of your life.

learn to say no.  believe me that is the begining to a stronger you.

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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/8/2008 5:54:05 AM   
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you know saying no isnt so difficult, its a small word but so powerful and empowering. just say it once, to the next guy and see how easy it is.


the difficulty will be...how to recoqnize, when to say No


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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/8/2008 5:56:26 AM   
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you know saying no isnt so difficult, its a small word but so powerful and empowering. just say it once, to the next guy and see how easy it is.


the difficulty will be...how to recoqnize, when to say No

 Saying 'no' sounds so easy but for some people it isn't easy at all. I struggled for years (yeah yeah okay, still struggle) with when/how to say no.I still feel a weird guilt when I say it, but it does get a bit easier with practice.

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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/8/2008 6:02:31 AM   
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It sure is hard...especially when you don't know how to..and when you need to do..don't know the right moment.
But "beeing to good" can lead to so much problems....especially when some people seem to smell it.


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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/8/2008 6:26:53 AM   
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Doll
 
  I feel conflicted.  I follow your posts ( perhaps I am masochistic afterall) and I feel compassion for you and your struggles, but I also feel frustration.  Frustration because you reject help.  You send out signals that you want advice and guidance, help...but you ignore those of us who try to reach back to you.
Perhaps SEX is not the only thing you will not let touch you. 
 
Do you have any healthy relationships? friendships?  relative relationships?
But primarily until you have a healthy relationship with YOURSELF........the others will elude you.
 
 Your emotional walls are felt by me from even behind this screen.  I have reached out to you and been ignored....So have others.
 
You have a self-proclaimed unchecked and untreated eating disorder.  That generally coincides with body-image issues which can coincide with  sexuality issues..

I am not sure about the other "issues"  you have posted about and their validity, so I will leave those out of my comments.

You have been posting for some time now that you will be going into a treatment center, yet you have not.
when does that happen?

I feel like I am wasting my emotional energy typing to you ( once again), but I also personally know others who struggle with eating disorders and mental imbalance, and I feel compelled to once again tell you to >
get professional help for yourself and begin to heal yourself from within. 

You answers will not be found here..
that would be nice  and would be easy  but it is not reality.
The attention you crave, yes...it is here. THAT is not helping you tho'....
it is keeping you in your "poor me" victim role, helps you create the chaos you subconsciously need in your life and is allowing you to stay in denial. 

You suck emotional energy from fellow posters here, that are not up-to-speed with your other posts and requests for "help">>> and then you move on to another topic..another problem and another set of people who will "reach out to you".....so that you can reject them as well and argue with their suggestions.

I can say this > because I am one of them.  I opened up about my personal struggles in the past and how I got help...what worked for me.  It was emotionally difficult to openly share that with a stranger> but I wanted to help, so I shared.  Others have done the same.   You are an emotional vampire it seems.
Do you realize this?
I am not trying to be mean
I am trying to say something that will finally stop you and make you "see" more clearly.

Sign off the computer..call the treatment center and check in.

You are young..you have a lot of living ahead of you to do.  Do you want to continue to do it from a place of emotional paralysis and suffering?
That really is the question to ask yourself.

I, once again, wish you willingness to look inside  yourself for answers.

Cyndi



 

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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/8/2008 6:45:31 AM   
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It is not uncommon for women who were sexually abused at a young age to be unable to enjoy sex as an adult and to develop an eating disorder as part of it. Find someone who specializes in survivor therapy. You have to work on the early trauma first, you can't just fix random symptoms.

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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/8/2008 6:55:18 AM   
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the difficulty will be...how to recoqnize, when to say No
 
ok, yes.  it does take practice.  i used to find it really hard to say no and ended up hating myself for it.  im still not all that good at it now.

how to recognise the moment - its a feeling more than anything.  if a feeling of reluctance or uncertainty creeps in then the word no should be used.  you can always change youre mind later, it just gives you a breathing space.

and it doesnt have to be 'no'.  it could be 'not right now', 'now isnt the time', 'i dont feel comfortable', 'can we please wait' 'i really dont feel happy with this', whatever.

i do know that when i first used the word no it was to a guy that had used me over and over again but given nothing back.  id spent weeks being miserable about the whole thing.  when he asked me to come back to his place that evening i just said it.  no.  it was a small apologetic 'no' ill admit, but after that i felt so much better about everything because i realised that i did have the power to choose whether to be miserable or proud.

since then pride has been my downfall... lol.

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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/8/2008 8:39:16 AM   
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I've tried talking to my therapist about it but he seems to get uncomfortable and changes the subject...LOL he likes to joke around a lot too...suggested I become a Domme...LOL and I'm like...uh...no...LOL I'm switching therapists soon though...going to a Day Treatment program...maybe talking to a female would be easier...


Are you sure he was joking about being a Domme, or just trying to introduce the concept in a lighthearted kind of way? I don't think it was necissarily a bad suggestion, possibly the wrong path for you, but not an entirely crazy idea either.

Do you dislike the idea simply because it just doesn't do anything for you sexually, or because you feel that you don't "have what it takes" to be a Domme?


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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/8/2008 9:16:05 AM   
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atleast your able to have sex...and have had it twice.  there are people who cant have it due to physical issues with functionality and then their are the religious issues that can pose problems.  i am of the first issue.  never will be possible.



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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/8/2008 9:17:57 AM   
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I think the folks here have given you plenty of good advice, dollpatrs. That being said, you have done the right thing by asking for info and help. Good for you !
I agree that we are all, of course, different and that "normal" is a pretty meaningless term. You're still very young. Pay attention to what feels good and right to you, and don't worry too much about being "normal". The most important thing is to feel comfortable in your own skin, and that may be a journey, but it is worth the effort, belive me.
I also agree that your therapist seems like an ass. In my experience, the hardest part of psychotherapy is finding a good therapist that you are comfortable with and van relate to. Otherwise you are wasting your time, effort and money.
Good luck to you on your journey, dollparts. nd , please, protect yourself at all times.
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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/8/2008 10:00:53 AM   
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Doll, go back and re-read what Miss LaT said.  And then read it again.  It's YOU.  We can all see it, maybe you cannot, I don't know.  But it is YOU. You can turn this around, or you can be a train-wreck for the rest of your life.  It's YOUR choice, and only YOU can make that choice.

By the way, the reasons the therapists have passed you from one to the next is because either you aren't being truthful and forthright (and if you can't open up to your therapist how are you going to solve anything), you make up excuses for your behavior instead of trying to get better, and/or people exhibiting histrionics are such an energy-suck that they just can't help you. Doing therapy with someone when the person will not benefit from it is considered "not medically necessary" at best and malpractice at worst. They know they cannot help you so they pass you to the next in the hopes that the next therapist will find some way to break through with you.

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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/8/2008 10:14:15 AM   
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Bravo, LaTigresse

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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/8/2008 10:16:52 AM   
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was that to me? I know what BDP is personally i would check out hypochondriasis




agree with both..but Munchausens syndrome comes to mind as well

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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/8/2008 10:22:09 AM   
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Doll, go back and re-read what Miss LaT said.  And then read it again.  It's YOU.  We can all see it, maybe you cannot, I don't know.  But it is YOU. You can turn this around, or you can be a train-wreck for the rest of your life.  It's YOUR choice, and only YOU can make that choice.

By the way, the reasons the therapists have passed you from one to the next is because either you aren't being truthful and forthright (and if you can't open up to your therapist how are you going to solve anything), you make up excuses for your behavior instead of trying to get better, and/or people exhibiting histrionics are such an energy-suck that they just can't help you. Doing therapy with someone when the person will not benefit from it is considered "not medically necessary" at best and malpractice at worst. They know they cannot help you so they pass you to the next in the hopes that the next therapist will find some way to break through with you.

Cali



Totally seconded, I hope if anything all this lets you see that you really need to look at yourself, we can offer advice but we cant make the differance you have to do that.


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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/8/2008 10:22:28 AM   
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Only if she is hurting her child to get attention and I doubt she has a child

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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/8/2008 10:24:57 AM   
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Only if she is hurting her child to get attention and I doubt she has a child


Munchausens is hurting yourself for attention; Munchausens By Proxy is hurting someone else, usually your child, for attention.

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