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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/8/2008 10:27:23 AM   
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Sorry I was unaware I will go and look that up thank you I always thought it was hurting a child, but I do remember there being a diference thank you for the correction.

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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/8/2008 11:22:12 AM   
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being used by only two men...


Hey your the one who agrees walks out the door and meets these guys. How did they use you? because you believed they wanted to be your boyfriend? after an hour or so of chat,  s t u p i d


I swear you are the female version of a whiney /make excuses/ doesnt really want any help/ male poster to these boards

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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/8/2008 11:23:44 AM   
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ORIGINAL: swtnsparkling

I swear you are the female version of a whiney /make excuses/ doesnt really want any help/ male poster to these boards


Maybe she isnt and maybe she needs help? or maybe someone else reads them and feels the same way? That makes them valid in and of themselves i think.


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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/8/2008 11:32:25 AM   
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 Do you have the ability to pleasure yourself? Have you ever had an orgasm? If not, how can you expect any guy to know what you like if you don't know what you like. Try working on the relationship with yourself. Another idea is try having sex with a woman. Maybe guys aren’t your thing.

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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/8/2008 11:33:10 AM   
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Ever though of becoming a lesbian?

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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/8/2008 11:39:16 AM   
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That sounds mean, let me add, Maybe you are uncomfortable with it because you want someone to love you but men doing what men do just isn't your thing..... I myself HATE to be alone and as thus have taught myself to be able to turn off my body and do what needs to be done because that got me to the greater goal..... if they wanted sex to stay around I did it. I lost my virginity at 10 and it was not by any means a pleasent experience but many years of practie and lots or growing up has turned me into the sick individual you see before you.... Not only have I come to love myself but "loving" myself has become one of my greatest pleasures and now with a man, or a woman, sex is not only enjoyable but fulfilling like I never though it would be. Just give yourself time... 

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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/8/2008 11:58:02 AM   
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I think she has enough problems in her life without adding more complications. She needs to curb her activities, not add new ones.

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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/8/2008 12:35:16 PM   
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deleted my post after reading the full thread... cos i get the feeling it wouldnt have done anything!

So instead.. im gonna ask, whats an emotional vampire? it was mentioned in an earlier post on this thread and i may be a bit dimwitted here but i havent heard that one before !



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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/8/2008 12:51:59 PM   
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Having_a_Daddy-Dom_is_not_going_to_fix_everything.
Being_in_a_relationship_isn't_going_to_fix_everything.


You_need_a_therapist_who_is_specialized_in_abuse_and_you_need_to_accept_responsibility
_for_your_own_recovery.
You_can_get_some_info_here:
http://www.rainn.org/

Re:_self-help
http://www.amazon.com/Healing-Sex-Mind-Body-Approach-Sexual/dp/1573442933/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1205008230&sr=8-1

http://www.healingsexthemovie.com/buy.html

I_understand_"NO"_is_troublesome_to_you.
You_don't_like_saying_it_AND_you_don't_like_hearing_it.
"No"_triggers_fears_of_rejection_I_think.

But_"No"_is_part_of_setting_up_healthy_boundaries.
In_my_opinion_without_an_authentic_"No"_then_"Yes"
has_no_real_meaning.

(btw_whether_you_realize_it_or_not
you_say_"no"_all_the_time...just_look_at_how
many_times_you_discount_something_that_is_suggested
here...it_seems_almost_automatic..stop_living_via_excuses
you_deserve_better.)


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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/8/2008 2:46:50 PM   
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I'm better online than I am in person...like I can say no and stuff online...but in real life...I can't...

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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/8/2008 2:48:18 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

being used by only two men...


Hey your the one who agrees walks out the door and meets these guys. How did they use you? because you believed they wanted to be your boyfriend? after an hour or so of chat,  s t u p i d


I swear you are the female version of a whiney /make excuses/ doesnt really want any help/ male poster to these boards


We had talked online and on the phone and cammed for a long time before we met...

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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/8/2008 2:52:30 PM   
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write down your issues, and take them to the therapist/doctor I know talking to them can be hard writing can be a lot easier

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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/8/2008 2:54:12 PM   
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Okay- so make a rule and stick to it--- no more meeting people off the internet.chatting for hours, days, moths can still leave you not truly knowing a person cuz guess what, just like you aren't able to talk to someone in person the same as you would over the web they may not be the same either. They may try to deny and tell you they are the real thing but by the time you find that out you are already screwed...




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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/8/2008 2:56:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TysGalilah

Doll
 
  I feel conflicted.  I follow your posts ( perhaps I am masochistic afterall) and I feel compassion for you and your struggles, but I also feel frustration.  Frustration because you reject help.  You send out signals that you want advice and guidance, help...but you ignore those of us who try to reach back to you.
Perhaps SEX is not the only thing you will not let touch you. 
 
Do you have any healthy relationships? friendships?  relative relationships?
But primarily until you have a healthy relationship with YOURSELF........the others will elude you.
 
 Your emotional walls are felt by me from even behind this screen.  I have reached out to you and been ignored....So have others.
 
You have a self-proclaimed unchecked and untreated eating disorder.  That generally coincides with body-image issues which can coincide with  sexuality issues..

I am not sure about the other "issues"  you have posted about and their validity, so I will leave those out of my comments.

You have been posting for some time now that you will be going into a treatment center, yet you have not.
when does that happen?

I feel like I am wasting my emotional energy typing to you ( once again), but I also personally know others who struggle with eating disorders and mental imbalance, and I feel compelled to once again tell you to >
get professional help for yourself and begin to heal yourself from within. 

You answers will not be found here..
that would be nice  and would be easy  but it is not reality.
The attention you crave, yes...it is here. THAT is not helping you tho'....
it is keeping you in your "poor me" victim role, helps you create the chaos you subconsciously need in your life and is allowing you to stay in denial. 

You suck emotional energy from fellow posters here, that are not up-to-speed with your other posts and requests for "help">>> and then you move on to another topic..another problem and another set of people who will "reach out to you".....so that you can reject them as well and argue with their suggestions.

I can say this > because I am one of them.  I opened up about my personal struggles in the past and how I got help...what worked for me.  It was emotionally difficult to openly share that with a stranger> but I wanted to help, so I shared.  Others have done the same.   You are an emotional vampire it seems.
Do you realize this?
I am not trying to be mean
I am trying to say something that will finally stop you and make you "see" more clearly.

Sign off the computer..call the treatment center and check in.

You are young..you have a lot of living ahead of you to do.  Do you want to continue to do it from a place of emotional paralysis and suffering?
That really is the question to ask yourself.

I, once again, wish you willingness to look inside  yourself for answers.

Cyndi



 


You obviously haven't been following very well b/c you're way off.

I am being treated for my eating disorder, I just got out of the hospital a few months ago, I go to an eating disorders clinic once a week to see my nutritionist and I see the doctor there once a month. I'm doing  a lot better than I was.

I am not going into a hospital. I am going to a Day Treatment program which would only be a few days a week for 6 hours a day or so. I used to go like two years ago but it got too difficult for me so I had to stop. I see my therapist on the 20th and I am going to tell him I've decided to go back. He will give me a refferal then.

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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/8/2008 3:05:00 PM   
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ORIGINAL: CalifChick

Doll, go back and re-read what Miss LaT said.  And then read it again.  It's YOU.  We can all see it, maybe you cannot, I don't know.  But it is YOU. You can turn this around, or you can be a train-wreck for the rest of your life.  It's YOUR choice, and only YOU can make that choice.

By the way, the reasons the therapists have passed you from one to the next is because either you aren't being truthful and forthright (and if you can't open up to your therapist how are you going to solve anything), you make up excuses for your behavior instead of trying to get better, and/or people exhibiting histrionics are such an energy-suck that they just can't help you. Doing therapy with someone when the person will not benefit from it is considered "not medically necessary" at best and malpractice at worst. They know they cannot help you so they pass you to the next in the hopes that the next therapist will find some way to break through with you.

Cali



I had a lot of bad experiences in therapy...like my first intake...the guy doing my intake asked if I had a boyfriend and I said no, I don't want one. And he said that I was lying and that all 16 year old girls want a boyfriend and shit...and I felt like something was totally wrong with me...and then my one therapist, she would threaten to drop me every single time I saw her which would make me cry b/c I wanted to get well but I just couldn't do what she was asking of me. She said I HAD to go to school or get a job, or I was wasting her time. And at the time I could barely leave the house just to go to her appointments.

I tried talking about cutting with her (I don't do that anymore, I just did as a kid) and she said it was "self masturbation" which really embarrassed me and I tried explaining to her that it was NOT sexual at all...but she wouldn't listen.

And then, at 18, I finally told my therapist at the time that I was throwing up and had been for several years. He told my psychiatrist, and my psychiatrist told my mother, without my permission.

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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/8/2008 3:06:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: bitch2humiliate

deleted my post after reading the full thread... cos i get the feeling it wouldnt have done anything!

So instead.. im gonna ask, whats an emotional vampire? it was mentioned in an earlier post on this thread and i may be a bit dimwitted here but i havent heard that one before !




like a vampire sucks the blood/life force from their victims..it is what they need constantly to sustain themselves.
 
an emotional vampire does this with other peoples emotions.
 
drawing others into the personal drama and turmoil they keep going in their lives, creating high emotions of worry, concern, & even fear in those who would listen or try to help.  The high emotions are then fed on, sucked up and used as emotional sustenance.
sometimes is it conscious..but stemming from self-esteem issues,more of the time it is sub-conscious and not intentional to harm or hurt(mis use ) another..
 
my  use of the term to Doll was not meant as an insult or to be mean....it was meant to hopefully help....
 

a website for more information:
  Codependency Recovery Ch. 8 emotional vampires

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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/8/2008 3:08:53 PM   
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I'm sorry doll, but frankly, I can't participate in your fantasy world anymore.  We've tried, god help us, we've tried. It's always someone else... the intake person was inappropriate, the therapist said stupid things, your nutritionist is an idiot, your gp doesn't know what they're doing.  You're right, you have no part in this whatsoever.  It's sad that someone so bright and capable is being so mistreated by every professional that ever crosses their path.

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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/8/2008 3:09:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

doll, something just hit me this morning as I began reading this thread. You remind me so SO MUCH of someone near and dear to me......as she was a few years ago. I don't know how much of her story you will relate to but I am going to tell you a very condensed brief version. Hopefully in her story you will find something that will help you.

Today she is 27 years old, happily married and excitedly expecting her first child. She still struggles with depression and is still seriously overweight just so that you are aware, her life is not storybook perfect.

She was a lovely, dramatic baby and toddler. Yet when she got too tired, she suffered night terrors. A few years ago it surfaced in her mind that she had been sexually abused by a male family member at a very young age. No one is still sure what her age, at the time, was. Her parents had troubles, father an alchoholic and occasional drug abuser. Mother just naive and immature. She had an older brother (by one year) that she always felt was more favoured in many ways. Always the girl angst and drama of, no one understands me.

Her mother left her father when it became apparent the drinking and activities it spurred were worsening and detrimental to her children. They lived in poverty for several years, and with the shadow of what insane stunt the often MIA dad was going to do next. He would disappear, sometimes for years, they suddenly reappear proclaiming love and devotion. Even after her mother remarried and provided a more stable environment.

The girl had never been really thin but at puberty she began to gain weight, also the drama and theatrics increased. Even talks of suicide. Often times very defiant, even with a strict but also very loving home life. With the increases came therapy, much therapy. Trying to find the right doctor, the doctors trying to find the right medications. The girl didn't do well in school, ADD they said. Parents were adamant about getting an education, much fuss over skipping school, not doing school work, failing grades.

With the weight gain and other issues there was a low self esteem. Not uncommon in a teenage girl. She was a very social girl and usually had quite a few friends. Her parents almost always liked her friends and they often spent a great deal of time at the house. No cause for concern there. On the surface the girl should have had a fairly happy life. Yet always bubbling under the surface the depression and mood swings. Then it was discovered that there was increasing alchohol abuse, and addition to a cold medication. Boxes and boxes of capsules taken in a few days time. More hospitalizations both for physical and mental, more "helpful drugs" cocktails. No perfect cure, never the cure. In desperation her mother even tried many holistic and alternative avenues. Still nothing that would "fix" whatever ailed the girl.

Somehow she managed to graduate high school, even began community college. That lasted less than two months. The family rules, the same her brother had had, if you are not a full time student. You work full time and pay rent after you've gotten 4 months rent free to save your money if you wish to live on your own. If you do not move out you pay rent and you still follow the rules of the house.

Ultimately she moved into her own place, sharing it with friends. Always some financial drama, always changing jobs. Several times beginning college only to quit. Still fighting depression and a host of other issues......restless leg syndrome that would not allow her to sleep....digestive issues and obsessive eating issues......cutting.......etc. Also, several attempted rapes at parties, in there somewhere.

All this time she had never really had an interest in dating. Never a serious "boyfriend". Sure, she'd had crushes but usually on someone so unattainable and safe there was no chance of actually dating them. There was even a period of time she decided she must be a lesbian because she just didn't want anything to do with the phsysical aspects of dating men. What a dramatic thing she made of that announcement!! Then after a few attempts there, decided that was not for her either. She just gave up on dating and having a relationship. Instead hung out with gay guys. Male companionship without the sex.

Several more hospitalizations because of suicidal thoughts, more job hopping, more financial dramas. More on and off medications.

Finally one day several years ago, the girl decided that perhaps what her mother had been telling her had some grains of truth. "We are each responsible for our own happiness." "No matter what crap life throws at you, you are responsible for how you allow it to affect you" "Quit dragging out the big book of excuses for why you fail!" "No one is going to do it for you!"

She decided to take responsibility for her life. Yes, she will always need a little help with her depression and mood swings. She now knows that she has to be watchful of herself, see the signs of the bi-polar (or whatever the current in phrase is for it) highs and lows, and has learned better ways to deal with both. Sure, she still has days where she makes bad choices, calls her mother crying........but they are getting less and less. Yes, she is still overweight, she may always be. But she knows that she alone, owns that. No one else.

Basically, she grew up alot. Realized that if she wants to be better, feel better, have the life she wants......SHE HAS TO FIGHT FOR IT! If a doctor isn't helping, demand another. If a medication sucks, tell the doctor that prescribed it and demand help. Research everything. She spends alot of time at the public library and online. If a behaviour is destructive FIGHT to change it.

This young woman quit being a victim and became a fighter. Fighting for her health and her own happiness. It has not been an easy battle, far from it. Many lost skirmishes. But she refuses to quit fighting.

Doll, somewhere inside yourself you have the same abilities. If you didn't, you would have given up, and offed yourself already. The fact that you are bringing your drama here is not only a cry for help, but also shows a desire to get better. You just have yet, to toss away the excuse book and learn to own, your own life. It will come in time. Not one of us on here has the magic answer for you. Quit looking for it. You have your own answers, you're just refusing or not ready, to see them yet.

There is no easy cure, no magic pill, no instant fix. Accept that. You are going to have to work hard, harder than you want, harder than you can even imagine. But the harder you work at it, the easier it will get. And, the peace you crave will begin to flow into your life. Many of the things you struggle with, you may always struggle with. They will just become easier to cope with. You just have to stop making them walls and welcome them as life lessons. Lessons that will make you stronger.



I am sure I may be leaving important things out and for this I appologise. It has been a bumpy ride with this girl.


I don't see where I have much in common with her...I mean, sure we were both abused...but thats about all. I was a straight A student...did very well in school...a perfectionist...wasn't very social...I have always been very shy. I did have a couple friends from childhood that I had known for most of my life but I wasn't very close with them and they didn't really know me. I have no friends now, only people I talk to are my parents and medical professionals. I have never been to a party in my life. I don't drink and have never done drugs.

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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/8/2008 3:12:14 PM   
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I'm sorry doll, but frankly, I can't participate in your fantasy world anymore.  We've tried, god help us, we've tried. It's always someone else... the intake person was inappropriate, the therapist said stupid things, your nutritionist is an idiot, your gp doesn't know what they're doing.  You're right, you have no part in this whatsoever.  It's sad that someone so bright and capable is being so mistreated by every professional that ever crosses their path.

Cali



My nutritionist is awesome...she seems to be the most helpful out of all the professionals i have seen.

And you obviously have no experience in medicaid funded mental health clinics b/c you'd know that what I have talked about is common place. They suck. I am actually filing a complaint against my psych np. I have it written up but I need to go to the library and print it out before my next therapy appointment.

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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/8/2008 3:13:48 PM   
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I don't know what's up with you...Since you don't like sex..Don't have any....And don't be doing any of that In Vitro shit behind our backs. This is probably a sign from God not do anything foolish like gettin' knocked up.

Hopefully things will work out for you. If not, I am sure you will keep us all posted.

Edited to add....I never enjoyed sex either...I just did it cuz all of the cool kids were doin it.

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