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RE: Sounds - 3/9/2008 10:15:40 AM   
MistressVnus


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Yes indeed! Sounds are a genderless toy and can be used pleasurably on both males and females. It's just a matter of inserting into the urethra.
Now catheters, which are a whole other kettle of fish, need to be bought specifically for male and female subjects.


There are, however, different shaped sounds.  Some are more condusive to men and others to women due to the angles of the uretha in each gender.
Reading up on the different types of sounds and gender recommendation for each is advised.


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RE: Sounds - 3/9/2008 10:27:23 AM   
Tantriqu


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Status: offline 		Don't try it.  too high a risk for damage since opening is smaller, angle between urethra and bladder is so steep, let alone huge risk of infection. 

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RE: Sounds - 3/9/2008 11:55:03 AM   
Unrepentant1


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Status: offline 		As someone who has had some of this done on him, I can assure you to go for it, its an awesome intense feeling for the sub and told terribly erotic for the Domme. I would certainly want to do a lot more of this with any future Domme.

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RE: Sounds - 3/9/2008 4:25:03 PM   
Tantriqu


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ORIGINAL: Tantriqu
Sounding females:

Don't try it.  too high a risk for damage since opening is smaller, angle between urethra and bladder is so steep, let alone huge risk of infection. 


As for sounding males, see my earlier post:  Boo ya!

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RE: Sounds - 3/9/2008 4:35:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DarkLovelyDomme

Use lots of surgilube


Im tired Ma`am, i read this as "Use lots of superglue "  It stopped me in my tracks to say the least.

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RE: Sounds - 3/9/2008 4:41:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

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ORIGINAL: DarkLovelyDomme

Use lots of surgilube


Im tired Ma`am, i read this as "Use lots of superglue "  It stopped me in my tracks to say the least.


I'm taking notes, PS53. I'm pretty sure the superglue will come off your equipment in the autoclave. So much to learn...;-)


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RE: Sounds - 3/9/2008 4:49:33 PM   
Politesub53


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Status: offline 		Well that may be preferable to explaining how it got stuck there, down at accident and emergency. i still havent got over needing to tell a very young nurse my butt needed stitches after a bar brawl. She shouted across the A & E.... " Sister,  this mans arse needs stitching "

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RE: Sounds - 3/9/2008 8:32:26 PM   
MisPandora


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Status: offline 		"Since liquid chemical germicides generally require high concentrations and several hours of exposure time for sterilization purposes, they are usually used for disinfection rather than for sterilization purposes."

This is why Sodium Hypochlorite is considered in the surgical world as a germicide and not a true sterilant because the exposure time is unrealistic -- especially where metals are concerned.

And while I agree that for the most part, this is a matter of semantics, we are responsible for the information that we put out there to be as correct as possible where newcomers and novices intercept this and take what we say to be gospel.

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RE: Sounds - 3/9/2008 8:35:07 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Tantriqu

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ORIGINAL: Tantriqu
Sounding females:

Don't try it.  too high a risk for damage since opening is smaller, angle between urethra and bladder is so steep, let alone huge risk of infection. 


As for sounding males, see my earlier post:  Boo ya!

Sounding females can be done safely if the individual is knowledgable of anatomy and physiology.  It's how a physician initially tries releasing a urethral stricture caused by UTIs.  There is generally more of a concern for infection because of the shorter nature of the female urethra connecting to the bladder (shy of 3 inches on most women.)

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RE: Sounds - 3/10/2008 5:33:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		love sounds being done on me ...amazing feeling as it slowly slides into you until its all in   first time it was done to me i  was scared but the mistress assured me she would be carefull and next thing i knew she was taking my cockhole with the sound  always thought that was a exit only hole boy i was wrong ..the vibrating sounds are the best i think ...and if she slowly fucks your hole with the sound well lube that feels awesome too  looking down and seeing the sound slowly slide into you is priceless ..love medical play and im way overdue for my next yearly exam ..ok more often if my mistress wants too ..afterwards the only negative i had was a slight burn when urinating but taken that way by a woman i think is wonderfull ..love being vulnerable as she plays with me as long as its done safely ...enjoy  mal

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RE: Sounds - 3/10/2008 7:10:21 AM   
MistressVnus


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And while I agree that for the most part, this is a matter of semantics, we are responsible for the information that we put out there to be as correct as possible where newcomers and novices intercept this and take what we say to be gospel.


I agree.  And no matter what we put out there, each will interpret it differently and also add/remove their own biases and/or knowledge and experience. 

And, as taught to me, and found proven to be effective over years of experience, bleach water is an acceptable form of cleaning, disinfecting,  and/or sterilizing sounds.  Whatever you want to call it.   I do appreciate your added information and agree that autoclaving IS the MOST desired form of cleansing, however, not as practical for most.  And even then, nothing is for sure.  An autoclave must be checked and maintained regularly to insure it's functioning properly each and every time.

I think the most accurate thing we can put out there is that nothing is 100% safe.  Everyone should recognize there is a risk factor in just about everything we do.  They should weigh the pros and cons.  Do their own research.  Be informed as possible, and be as safe as possible. That's as good as it can get.


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RE: Sounds - 3/10/2008 7:51:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		see darch, that's how it all starts...one minute your legs are tightly crossed and then you begin to go "hmmm,perhaps......" you randy boy you!

rook felt the same way about sounds after having experienced them for some not so fun medical procedures. All I kept hearing from men was that they were an awesome experience- like being "stroked" from the inside.

So being a "sweet" Mistress, I tied rook up nice and tight,gave him his favorite thick hood ,and took matters into my own hands! Next thing you know he is telling me about this odd sensation...this GOOD odd sensation. Needless to say it won't be hard to convince him to try sounds again! 

Life is good.......

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RE: Sounds - 3/10/2008 7:55:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: feralcat

see darch, that's how it all starts...one minute your legs are tightly crossed and then you begin to go "hmmm,perhaps......" you randy boy you!

rook felt the same way about sounds after having experienced them for some not so fun medical procedures. All I kept hearing from men was that they were an awesome experience- like being "stroked" from the inside.

So being a "sweet" Mistress, I tied rook up nice and tight,gave him his favorite thick hood ,and took matters into my own hands! Next thing you know he is telling me about this odd sensation...this GOOD odd sensation. Needless to say it won't be hard to convince him to try sounds again! 

Life is good.......


You do know that if you use my name in a post, it just makes it that much easier for Ma'am to realize that i was here; don't you?  Geeesh, women are so evil; i swear you are all conspiring to plot my delicious demise.

*darchChylde runs and hides; really, he was never here*


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RE: Sounds - 3/10/2008 8:12:03 PM   
feralcat


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Status: offline 		now why would you think that we conspire? silly boy...we just live to make your lives more "interesting".

Think of it as educational entertainment....see? it's a win /win situation for you!


enjoy your demise...lol

Ms Feral.....I get called evil regularly and quite enjoy it!

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RE: Sounds - 3/11/2008 12:57:17 PM   
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This covers sounds-play for the male urethra. Sterilizing metal instruments is not the same as cleaning them. Your instruments should be CLEANED with hot soapy water. After they are clean and dry, then you sterilize them.

Using heat sterilization (autoclave is a pressurized steaming device that is used to achieve high sterility levels for medical equipment) is the most common method I can think of. I don't know that I would think an autoclave necessary for sounds if the instruments are only to be used on one individual. One could also look into the old fashion method of boiling water as a means to steralize, but as the water won't reach the same temperatures as an autoclave, it can't be expected to be as effective against some potential infectious substances.
If the sounds are used only on one person, and you have no need to worry about possible infectious contamination from a medical condition, then scrub it with hot soap and water, dry, and I'd say just do an alcohol swab or use the bleach and water.
I'd note to not sterilize with bleach and water immediately before use. The idea of bleach residue + the urethra makes me shudder.


Urethra play, whether using sounds or catheters or whatever else is out there, is definitely an enjoyable thing if done properly. Scary sure, but if caution and care are used there's no need to fear.

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RE: Sounds - 3/11/2008 1:17:41 PM   
KindLadyGrey


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Status: offline 		Okay, I have to know. . .

How many of you Ladies actually own an autoclave?

Every time sterilization of something comes up as a topic, the autoclave gets mentioned. Last place I saw one of those was in my lab in college.

So seriously, how many of you actually have one?

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RE: Sounds - 3/11/2008 1:46:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: KindLadyGrey

Okay, I have to know. . .

How many of you Ladies actually own an autoclave?

Every time sterilization of something comes up as a topic, the autoclave gets mentioned. Last place I saw one of those was in my lab in college.

So seriously, how many of you actually have one?


Unless I was using medical equipment on more than one person, I don't think I would even bother into looking at getting one. Seems a bit over kill for a few toys.

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RE: Sounds - 3/11/2008 2:45:50 PM   
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Hummmmmmmmmm sounds, yummy. I have been sounding/dilating my male submissives for many years. There is actually a difference between sounds and dilators, though it appears within our community, they are referred to as sounds.

I personally use a quatricide to sterilize my sounds 15 minutes before use and sterile lube, both on the sound and a small amount injected into the urethra using a sterile syringe without a needle. The "target" area is cleaned with soap and water and then alcohol wipes and I wear sterile gloves. I also insure that the person I am working with drinks plenty of water both before during and after the sounding. This almost always guarantees a good strong stream after we are done, without pain.

Sounds can be a great mind-fuck, especially for new submissives (to watch), I have seen them tremble in the corner while I am showing their dominant how to sound on my own submissives. Doing a search under kinky medical supplies, you will find quite a few places, which carry these wonderful devices of mental torment.

I would also recommend finding someone with knowledge in this area before jumping into a scene as many things can go wrong if not prepared for ahead of time.

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RE: Sounds - 3/11/2008 2:52:05 PM   
Jeffff


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Jeff

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RE: Sounds - 3/11/2008 4:27:52 PM   
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