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ORIGINAL: honeygirl

What's a sloist??  

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ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave

Speaking of education Griswold said

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There are however, races and groups that statistically do less well...and it's not racist to say so. It's just a statistic.

Which has been known for a long long time.

The convolutions that those who attempt to deny the facts go through make me dizzy.
As MrG pointed out it was fashionable to integrate secondary education. Now that hasn't worked suggestions are being made that education be segregated again. 

Mixed ability groups which disadvantaged everybody.
Streaming accord to ability. Not fair for those put in the lower streams.
There appears to be no end to this ongoing farce.

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol
A soloist slut?

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ORIGINAL: bigdevs
There are so many people I know who are afraid not to vote for Obama. They don't want to make it seem their racist so rather than put their views above the welfare of this nation, they vote for who they feel they have to vote for.

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ORIGINAL: bigdevs

I think the way in which Geraldine Ferraro spoke was right on par. She felt it was a fact that Obama was being voted in because he is biracial. By the same token, she also said she doubted whether, had her name been Gerald instead of Geraldine, she would have been the vice presidential nominee. She was sharing her thoughts and wasn't being racist and I tend to agree with her.

There are so many people I know who are afraid not to vote for Obama. They don't want to make it seem their racist so rather than put their views above the welfare of this nation, they vote for who they feel they have to vote for. I even know a black male who had to defend voting for Hillary. As he said, he has had to tell people repeatedly that he voted with logic and reasoning for the person with more experience (the one he feels can get us out of the mess Bush made) rather than voting with his heart.

People aren't voting for Obama because they believe he can give us change (come on - he rallies people like a football jock at a pep rally - who is going to vote for the jock for president?!). Many are voting for him because he'll be the first black president. It's history in the making I guess. Nevermind he's only been a senator for three years and he has little to no foreign policy experience. Let's vote him in because he said he is going to change the country and because he is a bigger minority than Hillary.

I vote based on who I think will do the best job. As a minority myself, I dislike Obama's stance on gay rights, disability rights (he believes in a separate but equal policy to solve the disability job crisis with over 70% of the disabled unemployed...yeah lets segregate them and pay them minor ducats they won't be able to survive on - its called sheltered workshops), and healthcare. I also feel pulling out of Iraq without forethought is foolish. Yes, I want the troops home, but we're so entrenched in the crap in  Iraq, it will be difficult to just leave.

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ORIGINAL: bigdevs

I think the way in which Geraldine Ferraro spoke was right on par. She felt it was a fact that Obama was being voted in because he is biracial. By the same token, she also said she doubted whether, had her name been Gerald instead of Geraldine, she would have been the vice presidential nominee. She was sharing her thoughts and wasn't being racist and I tend to agree with her.

There are so many people I know who are afraid not to vote for Obama. They don't want to make it seem their racist so rather than put their views above the welfare of this nation, they vote for who they feel they have to vote for. I even know a black male who had to defend voting for Hillary. As he said, he has had to tell people repeatedly that he voted with logic and reasoning for the person with more experience (the one he feels can get us out of the mess Bush made) rather than voting with his heart.

People aren't voting for Obama because they believe he can give us change (come on - he rallies people like a football jock at a pep rally - who is going to vote for the jock for president?!). Many are voting for him because he'll be the first black president. It's history in the making I guess. Nevermind he's only been a senator for three years and he has little to no foreign policy experience. Let's vote him in because he said he is going to change the country and because he is a bigger minority than Hillary.

I vote based on who I think will do the best job. As a minority myself, I dislike Obama's stance on gay rights, disability rights (he believes in a separate but equal policy to solve the disability job crisis with over 70% of the disabled unemployed...yeah lets segregate them and pay them minor ducats they won't be able to survive on - its called sheltered workshops), and healthcare. I also feel pulling out of Iraq without forethought is foolish. Yes, I want the troops home, but we're so entrenched in the crap in  Iraq, it will be difficult to just leave.

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LotusSong
I give this post my standing ovation!!!

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ORIGINAL: RealityLicks

"Life is never fair so get over it and stop whining."

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

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ORIGINAL: RealityLicks

"Life is never fair so get over it and stop whining."

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ORIGINAL: Hippiekinkster

"Is social science from whence the construct of race came, not science?"

As I said, I have no idea. I've already given you a link to a lecture (he has also written at least one book: http://www.amazon.com/Race-Myth-Joseph-Graves/dp/0525948252 )

Here is a very cool pic: http://bizzbangbuzz.blogspot.com/2007/04/power-of-myth-of-race.html

Here's a link to a PBS "article": http://www.pbs.org/race/000_General/000_00-Home.htm

Do you believe that modern biology/genetics shows that there are races in the Homo Sapiens sapiens genome?  Screw what the Social "Sciences" say.

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ORIGINAL: Alumbrado

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ORIGINAL: Hippiekinkster

"Is social science from whence the construct of race came, not science?"

As I said, I have no idea. I've already given you a link to a lecture (he has also written at least one book: http://www.amazon.com/Race-Myth-Joseph-Graves/dp/0525948252 )

Here is a very cool pic: http://bizzbangbuzz.blogspot.com/2007/04/power-of-myth-of-race.html

Here's a link to a PBS "article": http://www.pbs.org/race/000_General/000_00-Home.htm

Do you believe that modern biology/genetics shows that there are races in the Homo Sapiens sapiens genome?  Screw what the Social "Sciences" say.

Since you already know the answer to that question, trying to turn a false insinuation into straw is just disingenuous.

Added to your earlier logical fallacies that all science is the same, and your recent comment 'screwing' anything that blows holes in your erroneous assertions, and you now have identified yourself firmly as the garden variety troll species.

A pity, you almost had me fooled for a moment, hoping that you might actually be an honest, rational, and progressive poster, instead of another pseudo-lib hatemonger using high school debate tactics to promote ignorance....I'll leave you in the company of your comrades.