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eyesopened -> RE: Does your pastor spank? (3/19/2008 2:03:50 AM)
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ORIGINAL: SailingBum
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ORIGINAL: Lumus
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ORIGINAL: cmenaked
I was also thinking that there are plenty of respectable church members who might be able to spank me instead. Maybe I should try them too. Maybe one or two of them thought the pastor meant spanking when he said discipline?
Speaking as the son of a former minister [not Internet-ordained; he graduated from Aldersgate College]...I can guarantee that pastors do not equate punishment with your psychosexual gratification.
Discipline has other definitions. Try this one, and apply the content therein to your demonstrated inability to turn the other cheek. What you are comparing is apples to oranges - non-sexual discipline for self-gratification from someone else, is not self-inflicted or acknowledged by the self as required penance for true forgiveness. A pastor can only offer to let you submit before God, which is done in humility - the opposite of any self-serving notion. The man is an iconic representation of a higher power.
The fact that you will seek out spankings from church members instead of the pastor reinforces your desire for self-satisfaction, which is, again, not true penitence. Trying to get your pastor to satisfy your need under the pretense of seeking absolution [Catholic inference aside...the term suits if viewed under a broader spectrum] is an insult to the precepts of the tenets which should be the driving force bringing you to church.
*waits to continue with Cali*
I guess somehow your dad being a minister somehow gives you greater insight into how pastors think and what their motives are. The headlines are filled with "ppl of the cloth"who have done wrong. So being the son of a minister does not give your view any more weight than others. Some religions allow gay ministers and they may GASP spank their partners. Who are you to say the OP kink is a insult???
BadOne
Okay, i accept all the flames i'm gonna get over this but i am compelled to say what i've been holding back.
The OP's kink is not bad. Wanting to be spanked is hardly an insult. BUT the OP went out of his way to say he attends a Lutheran church. He also said the church wants to control him but his fantasy is all about his control.
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ORIGINAL: cmenaked
The whole process wouldn't take more than 10 min. I could confess to him and he could determine from my wrongs the number of swats from a paddle. The paddle should hurt enough each swat so I won't want it. I could take down my pants and briefs....bend over and he'd put the fear of God in me.
The fundamental tenent of the Lutheran church is that we are saved by Grace through faith. To insinuate that the suffering of Christ was not good enough to absolve the OP from his 'sins' could easily be seen as an insult. To claim he wants this process for something other than his personal kink when he has planned to the detail what the pastor should do, how hard to spank, etc is not penance, is not seeking absolution is not submission. To want to involve other people unwillingly or unwittingly into his kink is insulting.
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