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RE: Does your pastor spank? - 3/17/2008 5:04:58 PM   
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I.e. they want to manipulate you in the name of their imaginary friend, whilst enriching themselves with your money.It is high time the hypocrisy and money-grubbing veniality of the established churches was accepted as truth; and their manipulation of children and gullible asults banned.



Don't hold back. Why don't you tell us how you really feel?

Some of us are in religions where carrying money on the Sabbath is forbidden. What do you say about that?

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RE: Does your pastor spank? - 3/17/2008 5:17:15 PM   
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RE: Does your pastor spank? - 3/17/2008 5:21:16 PM   
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Do you think I could ask him to spank me on a regular basis? 


Depends on whether you tithe.

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RE: Does your pastor spank? - 3/17/2008 5:24:09 PM   
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Forgive me father, for I have sinned.  It has been 33 years since my last confession.  Approximately. I am a spank-ho. I'd like to ask my priest to spank me for discipline, but I'm afraid he would think it was inappropriate. Now I have all this guilt in my heart and I don't know how to get rid of it.

Cali


It may be that you have not yet truly surrendered to a higher power.  The punishment which you crave represents your inner acknowledgement of this truth; you wish to be humbled before a power that you may yet embrace as greater than yourself.  In this case, spanking would represent absolution.

Come here, my child.  *pats his lap*



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RE: Does your pastor spank? - 3/17/2008 5:25:31 PM   
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What the heck is it about us Lutherans that makes us all so damned sexy?


The Jell-O.

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RE: Does your pastor spank? - 3/17/2008 5:31:36 PM   
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Tell you what... go talk to your pastor about this. Seriously, print out this entire thread, highlight what you posted, and tell him what you think. Then let him enlighten you.


I'm sure his pastor doesn't get paid enough for that!

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RE: Does your pastor spank? - 3/17/2008 5:53:41 PM   
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What the heck is it about us Lutherans that makes us all so damned sexy?


Maybe people are fascinated than any of ya'll survived reformation (given the burnings at the stake and stuff).

Or it could be the bean casserole.  Yums the word on that.

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RE: Does your pastor spank? - 3/17/2008 8:18:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have a better idea. Tell your pastor that you are a masochist who has sexual fantasies of going to hell, but you also love God and want to please him.

It won't get you spanked, but it would be a more interesting awkward conversation.


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RE: Does your pastor spank? - 3/17/2008 8:41:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: eyesopened
Okay... as one raised in the Lutheran church and the other half of my family in the Roman church let me tell you that the CHURCH does not want to control your life, the Church wants you to submit to the control of GOD alone.

 
This would be correct!
 
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RE: Does your pastor spank? - 3/18/2008 7:23:49 AM   
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Confess your sins to me, my child.


Forgive me father, for I have sinned.  It has been 33 years since my last confession.  Approximately. I am a spank-ho. I'd like to ask my priest to spank me for discipline, but I'm afraid he would think it was inappropriate. Now I have all this guilt in my heart and I don't know how to get rid of it.

Cali



Clever making the confession about wanting to be spanked by the pastor.  It's not very subtle though.

So, the consensus is mostly to not ask what the pastor meant by "discipline."  However...

(This SMACK is for you Catize)...  m-w.com has 6 definitions for the word discipline.  #1 on the list is punishment who's #1 definition is the act of punishing which is "to impose a penalty on for a fault, offense, or violation."  Looking further down into the synonyms they have "discipline"  (not surprised) and the example given is parents must discipline their children.

I think it's pretty clear that since he wasn't defining or giving examples of discipline in his sermon that I'd be justified in asking him to clarify.  IF by the off-chance HE were to mention corporal punishment as a form of discipline in which he meant, then BINGO.  If he clarification doesn't involve spanking, then so be it.

I was also thinking that there are plenty of respectable church members who might be able to spank me instead.  Maybe I should try them too.  Maybe one or two of them thought the pastor meant spanking when he said discipline?

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RE: Does your pastor spank? - 3/18/2008 7:27:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		No Pastor's dont spank..... but they do and will touch your male parts....

its a proven fact.  Make sure you are an alter boy

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I have a better idea. Tell your pastor that you are a masochist who has sexual fantasies of going to hell, but you also love God and want to please him.


::giggles::

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RE: Does your pastor spank? - 3/18/2008 7:47:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		My pastor is also my Dad. And I can honestly say that he has never in my life spanked me. Pastor's wives on the other hand...apparently do spank.

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RE: Does your pastor spank? - 3/18/2008 8:57:16 AM   
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ORIGINAL: cmenaked

I was also thinking that there are plenty of respectable church members who might be able to spank me instead.  Maybe I should try them too.  Maybe one or two of them thought the pastor meant spanking when he said discipline?


Look, you can justify it to yourself all you like. Why did you come here and ask us, if you were not really ready to listen to the answers? I haven't double-checked, but I'm pretty sure that NO ONE told you what you want to hear.  So tell yourself what you want to hear. Because you're certainly not willing to accept that ALL OF US said it would be inappropriate for you to continue in this vein.

Cali


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RE: Does your pastor spank? - 3/18/2008 5:18:41 PM   
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(This SMACK is for you Catize)...  m-w.com has 6 definitions for the word discipline.  #1 on the list is punishment who's #1 definition is the act of punishing which is "to impose a penalty on for a fault, offense, or violation."  Looking further down into the synonyms they have "discipline"  (not surprised) and the example given is parents must discipline their children.  


I repeat:
There are several valid definitions of the word discipline.  Why are you only willing to accept one of them?  I suspect that it is because any other ruins your fantasy.

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RE: Does your pastor spank? - 3/18/2008 7:45:28 PM   
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I was also thinking that there are plenty of respectable church members who might be able to spank me instead.  Maybe I should try them too.  Maybe one or two of them thought the pastor meant spanking when he said discipline?


Speaking as the son of a former minister [not Internet-ordained; he graduated from Aldersgate College]...I can guarantee that pastors do not equate punishment with your psychosexual gratification.

Discipline has other definitions.  Try this one, and apply the content therein to your demonstrated inability to turn the other cheek.  What you are comparing is apples to oranges - non-sexual discipline for self-gratification from someone else, is not self-inflicted or acknowledged by the self as required penance for true forgiveness.  A pastor can only offer to let you submit before God, which is done in humility - the opposite of any self-serving notion.  The man is an iconic representation of a higher power.

The fact that you will seek out spankings from church members instead of the pastor reinforces your desire for self-satisfaction, which is, again, not true penitence.  Trying to get your pastor to satisfy your need under the pretense of seeking absolution [Catholic inference aside...the term suits if viewed under a broader spectrum] is an insult to the precepts of the tenets which should be the driving force bringing you to church.

*waits to continue with Cali*



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RE: Does your pastor spank? - 3/18/2008 11:09:23 PM   
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I was also thinking that there are plenty of respectable church members who might be able to spank me instead.  Maybe I should try them too.  Maybe one or two of them thought the pastor meant spanking when he said discipline?


Speaking as the son of a former minister [not Internet-ordained; he graduated from Aldersgate College]...I can guarantee that pastors do not equate punishment with your psychosexual gratification.

Discipline has other definitions.  Try this one, and apply the content therein to your demonstrated inability to turn the other cheek.  What you are comparing is apples to oranges - non-sexual discipline for self-gratification from someone else, is not self-inflicted or acknowledged by the self as required penance for true forgiveness.  A pastor can only offer to let you submit before God, which is done in humility - the opposite of any self-serving notion.  The man is an iconic representation of a higher power.

The fact that you will seek out spankings from church members instead of the pastor reinforces your desire for self-satisfaction, which is, again, not true penitence.  Trying to get your pastor to satisfy your need under the pretense of seeking absolution [Catholic inference aside...the term suits if viewed under a broader spectrum] is an insult to the precepts of the tenets which should be the driving force bringing you to church.

*waits to continue with Cali*




I guess somehow your dad being a minister somehow gives you greater insight into how pastors think and what their motives are.  The headlines are filled with "ppl of the cloth"who have done wrong.  So being the son of a minister does not give your view any more weight than others.  Some religions allow gay ministers and they may GASP spank their partners.  Who are you to say the OP kink is a insult???

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RE: Does your pastor spank? - 3/19/2008 2:03:50 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SailingBum

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I was also thinking that there are plenty of respectable church members who might be able to spank me instead.  Maybe I should try them too.  Maybe one or two of them thought the pastor meant spanking when he said discipline?


Speaking as the son of a former minister [not Internet-ordained; he graduated from Aldersgate College]...I can guarantee that pastors do not equate punishment with your psychosexual gratification.

Discipline has other definitions.  Try this one, and apply the content therein to your demonstrated inability to turn the other cheek.  What you are comparing is apples to oranges - non-sexual discipline for self-gratification from someone else, is not self-inflicted or acknowledged by the self as required penance for true forgiveness.  A pastor can only offer to let you submit before God, which is done in humility - the opposite of any self-serving notion.  The man is an iconic representation of a higher power.

The fact that you will seek out spankings from church members instead of the pastor reinforces your desire for self-satisfaction, which is, again, not true penitence.  Trying to get your pastor to satisfy your need under the pretense of seeking absolution [Catholic inference aside...the term suits if viewed under a broader spectrum] is an insult to the precepts of the tenets which should be the driving force bringing you to church.

*waits to continue with Cali*




I guess somehow your dad being a minister somehow gives you greater insight into how pastors think and what their motives are.  The headlines are filled with "ppl of the cloth"who have done wrong.  So being the son of a minister does not give your view any more weight than others.  Some religions allow gay ministers and they may GASP spank their partners.  Who are you to say the OP kink is a insult???

BadOne 


Okay, i accept all the flames i'm gonna get over this but i am compelled to say what i've been holding back. 
The OP's kink is not bad.  Wanting to be spanked is hardly an insult.   BUT the OP went out of his way to say he attends a Lutheran church.  He also said the church wants to control him but his fantasy is all about his control.

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The whole process wouldn't take more than 10 min.  I could confess to him and he could determine from my wrongs the number of swats from a paddle. The paddle should hurt enough each swat so I won't want it.  I could take down my pants and briefs....bend over and he'd put the fear of God in me. 


The fundamental tenent of the Lutheran church is that we are saved by Grace through faith.  To insinuate that the suffering of Christ was not good enough to absolve the OP from his 'sins' could easily be seen as an insult.  To claim he wants this process for something other than his personal kink when he has planned to the detail what the pastor should do, how hard to spank, etc is not penance, is not seeking absolution is not submission.  To want to involve other people unwillingly or unwittingly into his kink is insulting.

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RE: Does your pastor spank? - 3/19/2008 7:18:19 AM   
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RE: Does your pastor spank? - 3/19/2008 9:23:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		eyesopened I respect your beliefs.  Either you are reading way to much into this.  Or I'm not reading enuff into the OP swat fest.  I read it as the OP walked into the triple rock luthern church and listens to the fire and brimstone coming from the pulpit al la blues brothers.  Started thinking hmmmm.  Elwood <The OP>  "sees the light"  gets a massive woodie and needs someone to cast the demons from him.  Well in my twisted mind it could happen.

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RE: Does your pastor spank? - 3/19/2008 9:35:15 AM   
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i will carry your money, i have no rules about that. but while i have it, can i go to the Avenue for clothes?


Wait till afterwards and we can go together.

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