CreativeDominant
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Not really. And so what if he does want a woman to pay his bar tab? I know of plenty of women who will deride a man (if not to his face than to all her friends) who doesn't pay her way, meal, cocktails, dessert, and any other expense on their first date. I'll only call a man who expects the same a leech if we apply that label equally.
I'm all good with that, but the fact is a male dom has a lot more competition for a female slave than you're average Joe does for date. It's not my standards that change - the marketplace dictates, and where you're talking slave and master and marketplace ...who pays for whom?
Certainly. But simply demanding something that they can't get in the current market doesn't make a man a leech. And some men are able to get that for whatever reason, be it dating women who undesirable to most men for whatever reason, because the men themselves are unusually attractive, have exceeding amounts of charm, etc.
Or because they are dominant men who chose to use their control by having their submissive pick up the bar tab. A dominant male, like any submissive female, or anyone else for that matter, can set their requirements in a partner wherever they like. Some submissive females want a dominant who pay their way for the rest of their life - they want to stay at home and serve by cooking, cleaning, and the like. They don't ever want to work out in the "real world" again. Some dominants desire to be served by never having to set foot in the office again, they want to able to devote all their time to the things they enjoy doing. So their requirements in a partner is someone who will go out and work and bring home the money.
If a woman who desires such is not a leech, neither is the man. Being able to get it has nothing to do with the matter.
I agree with the fairness of your last statement above. That makes several of us.
I would be willing to bet that if most male dominants were to say something along the line of your statement above..."I no longer wish to go out in the working world. I will stay at home and you and another submissive will go out and bring home the bacon. I in turn will dominate you in a way that best serves you, serves me, and serves the dynamic and will pursue whatever I choose to", most female submissives would snort in derision and promptly call the male dominant the term you used...LEECH...and perhaps worse. The ironic thing is that many...though certainly not all...would in turn admire the femdominant who was able to exact the very same thing out of a male submissive. Lashra noted the case of a male dominant who did just that...I would be willing to bet it doesn't happen often.
I was brought up with the idea that "men go out and work", so I always have. My brother and I have done a lot of the "what if you won the lottery" conversation and he has noted that he would no longer work...he would stay home and build hot rods. I told him that he was just exchanging one form of work for another...more fun work, definitely but still work. I am quite sure this is what has colored my view of men who don't work.
My mother worked. Most women I have dealt with have worked outside the home, including the great majority of the female submissives I have known and the femdominants I have known. I am sure this has also helped to color my view of those women who did not want to work and has helped to color my view of those femdominants who wanted all the control (let's face it...non-traditional) but who wanted the man to pay (traditional). If it works for you and yours, more power to you but that does not change my view of it, just as I am sure that many might look at my relationships and frown and yet be willing to concede that if it works for me and mine, more power to me.
< Message edited by CreativeDominant -- 3/18/2008 7:46:16 AM >
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