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RE: My Master/Dom/me - who owns who here? - 3/18/2008 10:34:01 AM   
LilMissHaven


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WHen I think of it...my MAster is not wrong  is it. "my MAster" equals "the one owning me"
(like my teacher, the one that teaches you at school, still you don't own him)


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RE: My Master/Dom/me - who owns who here? - 3/18/2008 10:34:30 AM   
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"Owner of me" is the prepositional form.
"My owner" is the genitive form.
They both say the same.

How difficult does this equivalence really need to be to grasp?

Let's take it a step further, to the expression my god.

Anyone think the pope means "the god I own?"

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RE: My Master/Dom/me - who owns who here? - 3/18/2008 10:41:58 AM   
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It could explain some things...

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RE: My Master/Dom/me - who owns who here? - 3/18/2008 10:45:02 AM   
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For some, third person speak works well. beth has managed to make it perfectly natural and useable without being difficult to read. Some, however, cannot make the transition from the cumbersome written way of doing things to conversation. You cannot use slash-speak when you actually talk to someone. The problem with trying to eliminate possessive pronouns from someone's speach is the ability to do so without sounding confused. I tend to remove gender specific ones from mine, since I never know if the customers I am dealing with (with many names) are male or female and if the name on the account is the person standing in front of me. IT sounded awkward at first, but once I got practiced at it, most people dont notice a difference.
Speaking that way becasue it makes you, or your Dominant partner happy is one thing. Having issues with others for not speaking the way you like is another.  My boys using proper english and using possessive pronouns do not make them more or less correct than beths non-use of them. Different strokes for different folks.
(beth is being used as an example, since she is one of the few I know who does speak that way all the time)

As the otehrs have said, your overanalyzing the language.  I do not own everything that I refer to as mine. My doctor, my manager, my store are still not my direct possessions. My boys, my car, my lunch... those are.

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RE: My Master/Dom/me - who owns who here? - 3/18/2008 11:15:41 AM   
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I have read some beautiful posts on this thread. And I have seen some articulate arguments on both sides of the fence, as well as the always-compelling "whatever is right for your dynamic."

So why am I adding my two cents' worth? Because language is my passion.

I have no objection to de-personalizing your speech if it is the desire of both your dominant and yourself. If it is done in the gracious way that some who have posted here have used, it is almost poetic and conveys a lovely picture. It takes practice to do it that gracefully and seamlessly. One must learn to avoid awkwardness in one's language and to speak or write clearly so as to avoid misunderstanding.

I use capital letters and first-person mainly because that's how I've always done it, and also because I'm an independent little git.

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RE: My Master/Dom/me - who owns who here? - 3/18/2008 11:38:25 AM   
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This isnt really an eloqant answer but, on these boards i tend to refer to Sir as well Sir sometimes I am sure that I have said my Sir because Sir is a generic term, if i was talking to people I know I would refer to him as Ceno or Wolfie and in that case I wouldnt say my because they would instantly know who I am talking about. I actually think I say my girlie more than my Sir because girlie and my relationship is more like a nilla relationship so neither owns the other.

Caps I guess thats just habit, and also a great way to wind up Dominants that I dont respect by not capping them (more in another chatroom than here to be honest) but I dont do the whole A/all thing because it would take far too long and is a bit annoying to read and really its just a capital letter.


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RE: My Master/Dom/me - who owns who here? - 3/18/2008 1:07:47 PM   
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Hi

It is not third person that is the problem here i think, but the fact the the English language had no different word for the one of this sort i am connected to and the one i own. So it is both my DVD as in the DVD i own and my God as in the God i worship. Third person is the same way. my Master and i went to the store to do and bought a cake. nephandi and her Master went to the store to day and bought a cake. it is the same if i say my or nephandi's or hers it all have the same problem, and unless we want to find a language that have different words for mine as in my property and my as in what is connected to me we are stuck whit English and just twisting English into strange forms to sound more subby really do not do much good in my opinion.

i wish you well


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RE: My Master/Dom/me - who owns who here? - 3/18/2008 4:52:02 PM   
Aswad


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quote:

ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

It could explain some things...


Yeah, good point.

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RE: My Master/Dom/me - who owns who here? - 3/18/2008 11:27:54 PM   
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Lets make it eassy for us all.

From of today ..I own you all.  tributeeeeeeeee timeeeee

( yes.. I Sacrefice myself for this hard job...but I am willing to do that for you)

< Message edited by Justme696 -- 3/18/2008 11:29:14 PM >


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RE: My Master/Dom/me - who owns who here? - 3/19/2008 4:05:14 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Justme696

Lets make it eassy for us all.

From of today ..I own you all.  tributeeeeeeeee timeeeee

( yes.. I Sacrefice myself for this hard job...but I am willing to do that for you)


How very kind of you

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RE: My Master/Dom/me - who owns who here? - 3/19/2008 4:44:37 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Justme696

Lets make it eassy for us all.

From of today ..I own you all.  tributeeeeeeeee timeeeee

( yes.. I Sacrefice myself for this hard job...but I am willing to do that for you)


sillyass dominant. 

you own my gratitude, though...your words were what i needed to see, and gave me what i needed to finally take steps to get going from a life-draining situation.

kitten, who is relocating to texas this summer.....

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RE: My Master/Dom/me - who owns who here? - 3/19/2008 4:47:10 AM   
Justme696


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neah...you did do it yourself. And you don't own me anything lady, help is always for free ;)

quote:

How very kind of you   


I have my weak moments :P

< Message edited by Justme696 -- 3/19/2008 4:49:03 AM >


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RE: My Master/Dom/me - who owns who here? - 3/19/2008 7:59:28 PM   
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I once said (rather, wrote... nay TEXTED) to he who Owns me (e.g. "Master") "i am Ur slave, U are the Master of me, U are not 'mine'" and he, in fact, corrected me (as is his right) and said "No, I am ur Master, u are my slave. End of story."

and I only do the Caps thing when I write to him in the second person "You" (or U), Master or Sir is capitalized just as any proper name, I only use "i" in the first person to him, and I don't write "Him" at all.  He usually doesn't cap my name or if he writes it, but he is also a "lazy typist"  He thinks the whole Cap thing is silly but I can't stop using U in my text msgs.

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RE: My Master/Dom/me - who owns who here? - 3/19/2008 8:31:45 PM   
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LMAO... I read that as HAND  JOB

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Sacrefice myself for this hard job...

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RE: My Master/Dom/me - who owns who here? - 3/20/2008 3:12:07 AM   
Justme696


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we can talk about that.... :P

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RE: My Master/Dom/me - who owns who here? - 3/20/2008 5:03:02 AM   
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When I refer to my partner ONLINE OR IN WRITING, I always use ‘my owner’. Not because I am trying to show that he belongs to me, but because in the written word, it makes more sense to identify the exact person to whom I am referring to.

In real life; I never address him by name; it is always Master or Sir, depending on the company we are in.

This is not done so that he can ‘help me’ to maintain my headspace; I do not need words to do that. It is done to show respect to him; the respect that I have for the person in my life. The fact that we have a M/s relationship is secondary to that.

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RE: My Master/Dom/me - who owns who here? - 3/22/2008 8:45:44 AM   
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I think to a degree, we own each other. Without submission there is no dominance, without dominance, no submission. I capitalize her title out of respect, not ownership. Otherwise I write as the english language proscribes.

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RE: My Master/Dom/me - who owns who here? - 4/1/2008 2:57:02 PM   
metalmiss


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Referring to my Master as "my Master" does in no way imply that i own or possess Him in any sense. It is simply me indicating Who owns me.
One could speak of a dog as having an owner.. it doesn't mean that the dog possess's them.



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